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Do We Need Medication For Ever?

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Today I was having dinner with my parents as always, I often like to hear stories from their family, and try to relate to my ancestry. Sometimes they tell me about their relatives who had depressive symptoms, I guess it does run in the family.

But back then, depression wasn't even considered an illness, they called it "sourmenage" and off course there was no treatment besides resting, sedative drugs.

And that's when they told me something that kind of hurt, because they keep telling me all the time how much I depend on my treatment, and how much it costs them. Yes, they pay for it, its expensive and I feel so guilty, cause I could never afford them, I don't even have a job.

I have to say, my friends, after 10 years, using 3-4 meds at a time, I do feel like I could never leave them. I would be soooo much worse without them.

I could have never achieve what I've gone through without them.

The first time I went to a psychiatryst, he said it would be for 2 years, 4 years later another doctor tried, and it didn't work. That's when a 3rd and current doctor said "YOU NEED THEM FOR LIFE".

And now, after 10 years, and tenth$ of thousand$ my parents call me an addict. You can imagine how sad and guilty I feel tonight.

But is it ever hope to finish this treatment?

How come we are all stucked for life?

I'm not asking for success stories. We are all here successful here, just for being alive and coping with this horrendous disease.

Is it anyone here an "EX- PATIENT"?

Have you even heard of any single one?

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Hi Martin P.S.,

I guess that no one here wants to be on AD medication for life and I do know many people who have weaned themselves off medication and are coping very well with life.

As for me well I have been on meds for 5 years,however I did get off for a 6 month period only to have another bout of depression, so back on now.

I will try again to wean myself off my AD, but it will be a very gradual and slow tapering program

Really nobody can tell you in advance if you could cope without your medication and I myself do accept that I may need to be on something for sometime to come.

Sorry to hear your family make an issue of your meds and the costs, it is really not fair to classify you as an addict.

Best Wishes

Jim Bow.

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And now, after 10 years, and tenth$ of thousand$ my parents call me an addict. You can imagine how sad and guilty I feel tonight.

But is it ever hope to finish this treatment?

How come we are all stucked for life?

I'm not asking for success stories. We are all here successful here, just for being alive and coping with this horrendous disease.

Is it anyone here an "EX- PATIENT"?

Have you even heard of any single one?

For years I used to take meds only once a year and a half / two years, when the depression came back.

Then I'd use them for a few months and stop.

During the past 3 years, the episodes became more intense, more painful, unbearable.

So I dragged myself to one of the best specialist in the country and he told me:

"If you want a quality of life, you must never get off meds!"

and then he reassured me that Effexor XR can be taken during pregnancy...

Like it's supposed to ease the statement :)

My father is still in denial about that statement...Does not want to believe it.

I am slowly accepting it.

Some people have to take pills for high blood pressure or to maintain their sugar level.

It's not at all different from the pills we take to treat our problem.

and we should not feel the need to explain ourselves or apologize for taking them!

We did not ask to become clinically depressed!

I'm sorry to hear about your parents.

Ask them whether they want a funcitoning non addict son...who can't get out of bed...or a medicated happy one.

Sometimes parents freak out about psychiatric meds because they do not have enough info.

I sent both my parents online to read links about depression, treatment etc. etc.

They should know what I am going through.

and once my mom joined me in my CBT counselling session.

and then it hit me: She is so in denial.

She said : "Why is she (me) angry with me? I am only trying to treat her like a healthy person".

and then my therapist said: "Ha! There is the problem - she is NOT a healthy person! Accept that, accept her the way she is".

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I think Achelois makes a lot of sense. I'm pretty sure my depression is going to require lifelong treatment. I've gone off my medication in the past and been ok for awhile, only to have severe depression come back. I'm down right now, but I suspect I would be much worse without the prozac I'm taking.

Achelois's comparison of taking medication for depression with taking medication for other chronic medical conditions like diabetes and high blood pressure sounds reasonable to me. I'm sorry your parents don't see it. My husband takes medication for high blood pressure. It costs money, he has to take it everyday, and he will almost certainly need it for the rest of his life. Think how stupid it would be for me to say, "Why are you addicted to blood pressure medicine? Think how much money we could save if you'd just control your blood pressure through sheer force of will the way I do. I don't need pills to keep my blood pressure normal." That would be ridiculous. The medicine he's taking is preserving his health and life, it's money well spent for that reason, and the fact that many people don't need such medication is completely beside the point. He does need it.

I think it's the same for many of us with depression. It's not an addiction or a lack of willpower. It's a medical condition that needs to be treated.

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Hi Martin P.S,

I manage my symptoms with medication and doubt I can live without it. I see no reason why, because in my eyes, depression is something like diabetes and to be able to function well, I take meds.

I

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Thank you all for your kindful replies.

I also thank this website again, for the remarkable support on us all.

It truly is a blessing, and a wonderful thing.

It is so unfortunate that by having depression we're not only sick, but also forced to re-think our lives, our dreams, our expectations, even our personal and family economies.

I am still a student, have no permission to work in the united states, yet I have to maintain this treatment just to keep functioning.

I hate to see myself as a person who's main purpose in life from now on, is to earn money to pay for medications. It's really pathetic, I always thought there would be a day when this would be all over.

I guess we're trapped in this forever.

My parents have sold already 2 cars and 1 appartment in order to pay for my meds and therapy.

What have I given them back? A smile, and a promise that I will not **** myself. That's just pathetic. Who would have thought I would turn into this?

A friend of mine, who is also a psychiatryst told me: "man, you're an expensive fellow!"

I wonder if I should just quit cymbalta and take generic.

How about EST, is it less expensive?

I'm not joking, I'm just sorry, so sorry, and I'm sick of everyone blaming me for spending money.

That just sucks.

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Thank you all for your kindful replies.

I also thank this website again, for the remarkable support on us all.

It truly is a blessing, and a wonderful thing.

It is so unfortunate that by having depression we're not only sick, but also forced to re-think our lives, our dreams, our expectations, even our personal and family economies.

I am still a student, have no permission to work in the united states, yet I have to maintain this treatment just to keep functioning.

I hate to see myself as a person who's main purpose in life from now on, is to earn money to pay for medications. It's really pathetic, I always thought there would be a day when this would be all over.

I guess we're trapped in this forever.

My parents have sold already 2 cars and 1 appartment in order to pay for my meds and therapy.

What have I given them back? A smile, and a promise that I will not **** myself. That's just pathetic. Who would have thought I would turn into this?

A friend of mine, who is also a psychiatryst told me: "man, you're an expensive fellow!"

I wonder if I should just quit cymbalta and take generic.

How about EST, is it less expensive?

I'm not joking, I'm just sorry, so sorry, and I'm sick of everyone blaming me for spending money.

That just sucks.

Oh Martin I'm so sorry to hear that...I understand your feeling.

Look, they are your PARENTS!!

Who else would love you unconditionally if not them?

You didn't ask to become sick nor did something wrong that caused your depression,stop blaming yourself for causing them financial damage.

Your top priority should be concentrating on getting better and you can always count on my support and the support of people in this forum. We all know what you're going through when you're battling with this disease.

Imagine, I felt the same when I had ADHD and had to take Math extra paid classes because my cognitive tempo was much slower...and Dad, a Math professor, called me "Lazy" all my life.

I felt like a burden and a dissapointment!

and now?

His daughter is a very respectable computer pro, with a salary most of her friends can dream about.

He is so proud.

and your parents will be proud of you because you will finish your degree and become a professional in your field of choice.

and I'm sure they would have not preferred to keep the money to themselves and see you suffering from thoughts about death.

and that's what often happens without meds!

Many of us can't even get up in the morning without them. I can't.

My parents are both 62 years old, they are the old generation, they kept saying at the time when they were young, no one took anti depressants and people were just fine.

They think it's a new trend...in a way.

Yes, check whether you indeed can switch to a cheaper generic med.

I tried Effexor, both brand and generic, same with Seroxat and honestly could hardly tell the difference!

and the difference in prices was enormous!

So if it is much cheaper and you will feel better about them spending less money, go for it.

and one more thing - you are a student NOW.

You will finish, get a great job and will be independent!

and then you will pay for your own medicine.

You will not have to count of their support for life.

and it goes both ways.

What if one of them needed YOUR support? Financial or moral?

I'm sure you would have done it without even thinking.

So please do not torture yourself.

You are going through enough as it is.

Go and see if you can get the generic meds cheaper.

and come here post an update :)

Have a great week!

Edited by Achelois

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Thank you Achelois, you really are a beautiful person.

I thank you so much! And appreciate what you said.

One big hug from me.

Martin

Hug back :-))

I also feel quite alone with my own depression...

But I do have some support...and you also have our support.

So it's morning here and we work on Sunday, I am on my way to work.

Will check the forums in the evening.

Hang in there!

Things will get better.

and that's coming from someone who is one step away from ending a 5 months depressive episode, the worst and the most painful in her life.

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Its so nice to know we have all the support here, and wonderful people like you Achelois. God bless you, and have a great day at work.

I'm on Saturday still, but will pray for you when I god to bed. I'm glad you are doing so much better, and the worst is over.

Take good care of yourself, and remember you've earn another honest friend here at the forum. Yours truly,

Martin

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I think it's the same for many of us with depression. It's not an addiction or a lack of willpower. It's a medical condition that needs to be treated.

I honestly think downNotOut has put it pretty succintly here. My feeling is that even if a person has to be an addict for eternity to maintain a state of viable recovery, then so be it. I have known people who not only were challenged with depression but also with chronic pain(frequently they go hand in hand). I think in many of these cases I have seen, these people are more concerned with being addicted to opiates or barbituates than they are with their depression.

I think education plays a major part in this....a MAJOR part! However, medications are in many/most instances essential in long term recovery. If the outcome is that you are addicted to this or that medication, then so be it. Whatever stablizes you will enable you to make the most of the challenges you face, and can often be the only thing that can propel us to seeking relief through other therapies.

Warmest Regards,

Deepster

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I think it's the same for many of us with depression. It's not an addiction or a lack of willpower. It's a medical condition that needs to be treated.

I honestly think downNotOut has put it pretty succintly here. My feeling is that even if a person has to be an addict for eternity to maintain a state of viable recovery, then so be it. I have known people who not only were challenged with depression but also with chronic pain(frequently they go hand in hand). I think in many of these cases I have seen, these people are more concerned with being addicted to opiates or barbituates than they are with their depression.

I think education plays a major part in this....a MAJOR part! However, medications are in many/most instances essential in long term recovery. If the outcome is that you are addicted to this or that medication, then so be it. Whatever stablizes you will enable you to make the most of the challenges you face, and can often be the only thing that can propel us to seeking relief through other therapies.

Warmest Regards,

Deepster

Deepster is right.

People say all kinds of things.

I am suffering from ADD and many call us drug addicts because we use Ritalin.

So be it.

If it's legal, was prescribed by a doctor after a long evaluation and helps me have a better quality of life, then I don't care what others say.

and so shouldn't you.

You are the most important person.

:)

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