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Hello my name is Heather. I have struggled with depression, anxiety and ADD (as well as a thyroid condition) all my life. It runs in my family from both sides. Some that have been diagnosed others that use drugs or alcohol instead of facing reality. I can understand that though, because in the past Mental Illness was something to be "ashamed" of so lots of those in the past generations turned to vices to cope, instead of seeking help they need.

Long story short. Mine is the genetic kind of Depression, where counseling and meds are helpful,  but there is nothing to completely take it away. So the best I can do is keep trying my best. Which I was doing.

Until recently. When physically pain entered the picture. I am more depressed then ever. I fear simple lying down in bed, as lying down, and getting up brings lots of pain.
I have been suffering for the last two weeks from lower back pain. Using the strongest medication the doctors here in the Netherlands can provide. And still with the meds. the pain doesn't ease off.

That's another thing that is stressing me out. The Medical system here in the Netherlands. Not only is it incredibly slow, but they simply don't seem to care. For example. Usually when a person is plagued with pain like this. In the US a person would see a physical therapist 3 or so days a week. Until the pain is gone. Here? I did see a Physical Therapist. One time, and he *did* help, however there was no mention to seeing me again.. except... if I still have pain with in two weeks call again... like HUH?? I am still needing help here why are you telling me to wait two weeks? That is insane.

Its so frustrating and stressful my depression is majorly triggered. Which does not help, of course. I need help, and I feel like no one cares. My mental state is really bad right now. I NEED help. What do I do?

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Hi HeathervC

Can't you call the doctor and tell him/her that you are still in pain and need to see him/her sooner than in two weeks?

Or try to find another doctor?

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Hi HeathervC,

     I am so sorry you are suffering from depression, anxiety, ADD, and thyroid dysfunction.  Getting lower back pain on top of all that must be just terrible.  I am suffering from chronic pain in my hands and it just feeds my depression and anxiety.  I can't even imagine how terrible lower back pain is.  I've read that it is one of the most painful conditions a person can suffer.  Since I am not in the Netherlands, I don't really have any insight into the health system.  How awful to be told to wait for two weeks.  How awful!    - epictetus

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On 8/4/2019 at 10:23 PM, Lilly333 said:

Hi HeathervC

Can't you call the doctor and tell him/her that you are still in pain and need to see him/her sooner than in two weeks?

Or try to find another doctor?

Yes we are seeking a follow up appointment thank you.

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On 8/5/2019 at 3:30 AM, Epictetus said:

Hi HeathervC,

     I am so sorry you are suffering from depression, anxiety, ADD, and thyroid dysfunction.  Getting lower back pain on top of all that must be just terrible.  I am suffering from chronic pain in my hands and it just feeds my depression and anxiety.  I can't even imagine how terrible lower back pain is.  I've read that it is one of the most painful conditions a person can suffer.  Since I am not in the Netherlands, I don't really have any insight into the health system.  How awful to be told to wait for two weeks.  How awful!    - epictetus

Thank you for your words. I am sorry to hear of your own pain 😞 Having people to listen, even on line, helps my brain to stop thinking I am alone when ever my husband is not here.

Thank you for being so kind!

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Hi HeathervC again, I don't know if you have tried to put a ice pack on your lower back. I find that it helps alot with pain. My physio once told me that I could try that.

My mother also suffers with extreme back pain due to an injury years ago. She is always in pain. One time I told her about the ice pack and she tried it. She told ne it gave her great relief.

Maybe it can help you as well.

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1 hour ago, Lilly333 said:

Hi HeathervC again, I don't know if you have tried to put a ice pack on your lower back. I find that it helps alot with pain. My physio once told me that I could try that.

My mother also suffers with extreme back pain due to an injury years ago. She is always in pain. One time I told her about the ice pack and she tried it. She told ne it gave her great relief.

Maybe it can help you as well.

Thank you for the Suggestion. I did ask the Physical Therapist about using ice. He said it would make it stiffen up more. Heat would be better. I have ordered a medical Heating pad which should arrive tomorrow.

I am hoping that will help loosen up the tightened muscles. I wish I could use ice instead of heat. I am hot blooded. lol. But right now anything that will help is worth it.

Thank you again for your suggestion.

Heather

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Back pain is so awful. I really feel for you. If you’re already dealing with depression it can really make your mental situation unbearable. I think that once you get some physical relief it will boost your mood. I’ve done physical therapy, worn a brace, seen a specialist, gone to a chiropractor and so on and so on. If there’s a way that you can get in to see an acupuncturist, that might be of some help. I’ve found that to be a much more effective treatment than physical therapy. It might be an out-of-pocket expense, however, but worth a try if you haven’t already thought of it. Oddly, though I don’t like psychiatric medication for myself, I found that sertraline gave me relief from chronic pain. I think Cymbalta is also used to treat chronic pain, though I haven’t tried it.

I hope that you get some relief soon. 

All the best,

Wheredoistart

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On 8/6/2019 at 11:48 AM, HeathervC said:

Thank you for the Suggestion. I did ask the Physical Therapist about using ice. He said it would make it stiffen up more. Heat would be better. I have ordered a medical Heating pad which should arrive tomorrow.

I am hoping that will help loosen up the tightened muscles. I wish I could use ice instead of heat. I am hot blooded. lol. But right now anything that will help is worth it.

Thank you again for your suggestion.

Heather

Sorry you are having a list of problems, with lower back pain to boot.  I put mouth/jaw/tooth (impacted molar) pain and lower back at the top of my list for pain.  All or any can disable you.  All can ache, and they can "shoot" pain, which can leave you out of breath and reaching for anything to help.  I had about 15 years worth in my forties.  Many times I thought I was healed and "zam" I'd move that next wrong way and be whisked back to an earlier stage of recovery.  I tried everything, including all the sessions of chiropractic my insurance would cover.  I became well versed in the horrors of "subluxation," but it never seemed to provide anything beyond temporary relief.  Here are  a few things to know, and one has had a long term, positive effect. 

If the problem is strain or pain from muscles, heat is the best temporary helper.  If the problem is nerves, heat provides temporary relief, but the attack hurts even more when the heat is removed.  So, if the problem is nerves or nerve endings, cold is the best relief I found. 

For long term and from my experience, it's most important to break the recurring chain of "re" injury.  It my be you've been so long without a healthy normal back, you wouldn't know it if it showed up.  So, try and stop the "re injure" process.  A couple of exercises that eventually brought an end to the cycle.  Lay on your back, pull your lower legs (now bent) towards your buttand arch your back up to make a bridge, don't have to strain.  Hold the bridge for a few seconds, then pull your legs tighter toward your chest with your arms around them, fetal style.  Hold that tight a few seconds, then relax to the starting position and do it again, and again.  Do that over and over gently, and repeat several times a day.  Your relieving/stretching the affected area, and strengthening  the muscles at the same time.  If there was ever a time to stick with the program, this is it.  If your back is hurting do it all easier, but keep doing it, every day.  It cured me, and I can almost guarantee it will help you.  Don't overdue it, but increase repetitions and stretching and holding, and gently lowering down, then again, as your condition improves.  You'll get immediate short term relief, and within a few weeks should start to feel an ongoing improvement. 

This was what worked for me after 15 years of searching for answers.  It's not fancy, and requires no special equipment.  I hope you begin to try it, continue it, and it gives you some relief.

Bulgakov the Stretched

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