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I see a therapist and I talk for 50 minutes and I learn things I should do to make my life better or should I say I don't really learn but just brings things to the surface I already  know so I'm more aware of them. So I would get the same results if I talk to the wall for 50 minutes but that would be impossible because a therapist doesn't do anything except sit there and listen and that's a person, well I can do that, I can listen to someone for 50 minutes and I don't have to school for 8 years to listen to someone? A psychiatrist listen for a couple of minutes and says here are the pills you need. I think I'm missing something because these people really aren't helping me much. A therapist that says 10 words in a 50 minute time and a psychiatrist who just keep giving you different pills that don't work. Maybe it's me, Maybe I'm doing something wrong. Will next week I'm taking a 12 week depression class which I hope I can finish this time. My motivation is maybe somewhere between 5 to 10% and I need to get things done.

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Your experience is everyone's experience really.  It doesn't really work for anyone.  It never has but as long as there are commercials playing every commercial break about some pill that shows them going to the beach or enjoying some big celebration and convincing you they work things will never change.  There are people that are fed up with the process and leave it all together every day but their waiting rooms remain full because their commercials never stop playing.  If we want things to change we need to stop showing up to their appointments and then they are forced to make improvements.

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I agree that nowadays to find a doctor that truly cares and wants to get to the root of problems and actually listen to you is very very rare. In this day and age I believe that most of us are just a patient # to them and they just want to get in and out to see the next person, very sad 😞 I myself haven't found too much help from the therapist I was seeing either, he was teaching me how to deep breathe... and that is something I've already known the 25 years I've been going through this. As of lately I've been utilizing the internet as much as I can, and I've found some extremely good self help that has been helping more then anything else. There are so many people out there who have suffered as we have and have gotten better, and when I say better they have 'healed' and I think they offer some of the best medicine for me out there which is how to overcome the root of where this is coming from. I've been practicing it for a few weeks now and I can say that I actually in 25 years have noticed a change, there is a deep understanding of why I feel like this now and I'm just starting to learn to deal with it.. I've put a band aid on it for so long and never really treated the wound underneath. Don't get me wrong I do believe that the A/D that I'm taking now has gotten me to the point that I can actually concentrate long enough for me to start being able to help myself but I will take full advantage of it and I am determined to not feel like this the rest of my life.

In other words, sometimes we really have to work on ourselves and sometimes push our comfort levels a litttle and do things, be around people, go places, and really try to re-train our minds that it's okay to feel happy sometimes until it becomes habit, just like the bad habit of feeling depressed/anxious becomes part of our lives. 

Anyway, I do hope that you find some comfort and feel better very soon lostsoul, I do hate to see anyone else suffering as I know I have for many years. 

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Oh man, I understand the frustration you're having.  So many of us have been through it, including me.  I'll go with @BeyondWeary on this.

I'd suggest tackling the therapist issue first.  That way your meds can at least remain consistent.  I'm not a professional, that's just my opinion.  I'm wondering, too, if putting energy into that search might be preferable to a class for which you've only slight interest.

I won't lie to you.  The search may be difficult.  For me, it's been worth it.  Same goes for my new pdoc.  He's engaged, low-key, and respects my POV.  tbh, too, he's not a nut, like some I've encountered (Did I mention the one who strode into the waiting room an hour late escorted by a large Doberman?).

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It sounds like a lot of you are struggling with something I did for a long time. You have the wrong therapist. Please don't give up. They do exist. I know, I finally have one. I have been going to therapy for years. I have had many ineffective therapists. I now have someone who cares about me as a person. He listens, not just gives advice. And he never uses the phrase, "I understand," unless he actually does. And believe me, I can tell when someone is just saying that and when they actually do understand. And he does not have me keep going over the same things, like the things in my past that I have already looked at time and time again. He helps me in one area of my life and then we move on to the next. He has also taught me a lot of coping mechanisms and alternative behaviors to deal with my depression, anxiety, and PTSD. It has taken many years, and don't get me wrong, I still have a ways to go, but I'm getting there. In large part to his help. So don't give up. The good ones are out there. But you have to be willing to be patient and find one that works for you. Don't ever settle. If you're not comfortable with your current therapist, try a new one. I have many horror stories about the ones who didn't know what they were doing, and certainly were not helping me. Now as for a psychiatrist, they will usually only offer you medication. Although there is no magic pill to cure what ails you, it is a fact that depression over time does change the chemistry of our brains. And that does affect how we feel and behave. Sometimes medication is necessary. It may not be the cure-all, but it can be a piece of the puzzle. So don't discount it. But there too, you have to find the right one. If you find one that immediately tries to push medication on you without knowing your circumstances, run! And if you do take a medication and it has side effects you can't deal with, let the doctor know. There are many medications out there. Different people respond differently to different medications. So don't give up, good, effective therapists do exist!  Take care and God Bless you!

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I went through it for 20 years and not once was I helped.  I was manipulated and abused every step of the way.  The treatment that was supposed to be for me never was.  It was for the people around me.  So many times I heard you're so calm now from people that didn't care about my quality of life whatsoever.  I was just left so drugged I couldn't function and nobody ever cared or stepped in to help me.

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This reminds me of when I was in the mental hospital, IDK why and I don't know if this post is really related , but---The shrink there had just met me and we talked for about 10 minutes and he tried to analyze me like he had known me for years and he was so clueless--I thought, "Why am I here?? This just such bull shit"--I just hate doctors like that..hope I am not babbling again...=-// 

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Although I wouldn't give up I agree with OP.  My therapist did the same thing. Shrink gives you poison. My family doctor doesn;t care about me at all. All he does he gives me meds that I ask for when I find them on google. He gave me by now in in the last 12 months I been seeing him some 50 different medications. I have a full box of them. But of course I don't use them togother and many will take buck to pharmacy or flush.

The best thing would be seeing a psychologist but that's expensive. Usually never covered by any insurance.

 

ahhh FCK life

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