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Now that it is 2018, there is a three year gap from when I graduated college at the old ass age of 26 with a science degree. I've posted over and over my struggle and frustration of not being able to find work in my field. And then dealing with my anxiety inhibiting my ability to get/keep a regular job...I lost the only vaguely related to my field job I ever got due to my anxiety. 

I have come to the conclusion that I don't want to give in and be in retail all my life while having a science degree. It's ridiculous. If I'm going to work minimum wage I would rather work from home.Working form home would also mean my driving issue and my anxiety wouldn't compromise my job. 

But is it really? Does anyone here actually work from home who isn't in software? what places are legit and not scams? I dunno if this is the right place to ask this sort of thing,but no where else can I ask other people who understand anxiety and OCD.

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I'm in marketing and work from home but I have a partner who does the selling. Difficulty with working from home is selling yourself, most people who want to work from home do so because they're not good with people but in this sort of environment it's even more important to be able to sell yourself than in traditional employment. 

If you're not opposed to do low-paying work from home you could try Upwork, it's a legit site and you may be able to get some data entry type of work. 

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5 hours ago, Chubbybunny89 said:
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Now that it is 2018, there is a three year gap from when I graduated college at the old ass age of 26 with a science degree. I've posted over and over my struggle and frustration of not being able to find work in my field. And then dealing with my anxiety inhibiting my ability to get/keep a regular job...I lost the only vaguely related to my field job I ever got due to my anxiety. 

I have come to the conclusion that I don't want to give in and be in retail all my life while having a science degree. It's ridiculous. If I'm going to work minimum wage I would rather work from home.Working form home would also mean my driving issue and my anxiety wouldn't compromise my job. 

But is it really? Does anyone here actually work from home who isn't in software? what places are legit and not scams? I dunno if this is the right place to ask this sort of thing,but no where else can I ask other people who understand anxiety and OCD.

I tried working from home and it was not for me. Most of the work from home jobs that aren't software development, recruiting, or project management tend to be work from home call center sales, customer service, and tech support jobs. I tried this and it literally drove me stark raving mad. You're literally on the phone constantly and there is pressure to keep call times short and satisfaction rates high. Work from home call center jobs are good for people with physical disabilities. Of course, your mileage may vary. I wish I could remember the name of one of the big contract call center outfits .... I'll keep you in mind.

Here are some ways to tell if the jobs is a scam:

1. The company bills itself as "top performer, recognized in the industry, blah blah" in the job description.

2. You have to take training that you pay a small fee for.

3. You're promised unlimited income potential. They throw a flashy number like 2,000 per week part time.

4. They tell you to work less, not more.

 

Here is an example of a job scam. Whatever you do, do not reply to it or give any information to them!

[see member for link to Philadelphia Craig's List scam ad for jobs]

Here is an example of a legitimate job:

[see member for link to recruitment website recruit dot hirebridge dot com.

 

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I'm a science and technology writer and editor. I've worked from home since 2003, mainly as a freelancer, but also as a full-time employee and as a contractor. One of the best places to look for telecommuting gigs is a site called FlexJobs. There's a fee, but all the jobs are screened, so you know they're legitimate. You can find anything from minimum-wage customer-service positions to professional jobs that require a college degree.

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12 hours ago, SheWrites said:

I'm a science and technology writer and editor. I've worked from home since 2003, mainly as a freelancer, but also as a full-time employee and as a contractor. One of the best places to look for telecommuting gigs is a site called FlexJobs. There's a fee, but all the jobs are screened, so you know they're legitimate. You can find anything from minimum-wage customer-service positions to professional jobs that require a college degree.

That might be worth really looking into!

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Thanks guys. I'll look into it. I don't have an aversion to people, just my OCD and germphobia might cost me a regular job. I also can't drive, and that is a big issue since there's very very limited public transit where I live.

You can all ignore this next bit, I just need to rant and don't wanna start a new thread.

I'm slowly losing the desire to get a job. Maybe I'm lazy. Maybe I'm stubborn and entitled.I mean I worked in research labs in college, and now I'm being told to get a job at Target by the people I know. I just don't see any reason to be a freaking cashier when my partner who wants to make a future with me makes three to four times the amount I am ever capable of making. I know I sound like a gold-digging ***** right now, but for real, no one wants to work retail or food service. Most people hate their jobs anyways, my anxiety issue would just amplify in those settings. Why would I want to work? Seriously why? If I can't do what I loved doing and got an education for then why slave away making minimum wage when married to someone who makes enough for both of us? I know feminism, being independent, don't rely on a man blah blah look I'm tired. I'm tired, depressed, frustrated and it has come to the point where I want to just be happy. I don't mind being some freaking housewife. I see myself being happier in that role than slaving away in retail. I would rather spend time with family, working on side projects, writing etc.. maybe find some convention or lecture to go to in order to stay informed in my field than work Black Friday at Wal-Mart. I grew up seeing my mom miss Thanksgiving, work days on end and still have financial problems. It's not worth it. Yeah, I made a mistake racking up debt from college I likely won't be able to pay off. Yea I know I should be hardworking, and have dignity. But you know- I feel embarrassed. I would rather, by choice stay home and raise a family or whatever, than have to tell my Doctor sister-in-law that I wait tables. Or have people look at him, the engineer, and see me, the Target cashier. Let me make this clear-I do not look down on anyone who performs in these jobs. What my issue is is that I went from feeling like I could be someone, being very happy in science to miserable crushed dreams etc.. I did not go to college to find work, I went to college because I love science. Yeah that's probably the worst reason to pursue an education- "passion". 

Am I wrong? Am I a terrible person? Of course, if I was struggling and he wasn't so well off I would get any job. But given the choice where he is doing alright, I just don't see how it is logical to make myself miserable. I mean, I've been a stay at home whatever off and on between my crappy part-time jobs anyway. I realize I have a lot of freetime. And using that to apply to jobs, cry and be miserable is wasting my life. I should use it to learn languages, start projects, write my book, etc.. Things I wouldn't have time to do if I had to work 6 days a week for 9/hr. I realize I probably sound like a brat. Sure maybe I'm a moocher, but the dude gets his laundry and dishes done by someone else. Meals cooked, I clean up after him begrudgingly cause honey I am not truly submissive, but I would rather do this than deal with "I want to talk to a manager!" "A kid threw up on the slide go clean it!" "Your bills are overdue")

I mean, look I consider myself a feminist by the original definition. However, I do feel pressured. I feel feminism should have given us the choice that if we want to work we should be able to etc.. not that we have to. Cause trust me 90% of people in the world work because they have to not because they want to. And you what, it should be the same for guys too. If you want to be a stay at home dad/boyfriend there shouldn't be an issue. Just find a partner who is okay with it. Why is everyone expected to work the traditional rat race? Hard work does not pay off anymore. That only wokred in the 50's. These days people can work 3 jobs and live paycheck to paycheck. Starve or be tied to a crappy job. 

I feel I will be looked down on less if I have made a choice rather than being some failure who could never get a real job despite having gone to college. "Oh you studied this and now you flip burgers! And you're in debt! Yay you!" It's very frustrating. It's so frustrating that I have resorted to ironing shirts (literally) and acting like some submissive bleck... Yeah I wanna be self sufficient. But I haven't seen a way yet. Heck, if I just team up with this dude we can make phone apps together, buy a condo and rent it out etc... I could have earning potential then. But I don't see it by me applying and applying and applying. Most people I know either were engineers or in medicine or they knew someone who knew someone or their uncle worked at the business etc.. Rarely does anyone get a good deal through this annoying application process. Hell, I feel I could do better if face to face drop ins were still a thing.

Okay I'm done ranting. Feel free to be brutally honest. I need to hear it. Am I wrong for feeling this way? 

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No, you're not lazy, you're just mentally defeated and your thinking has become clouded, it's completely black or white... Remember, it doesn't have to be a choice between working in a lab and minimum wage, you're making it that! You have a college degree, there is no reason you can't get an office job. You could do medical transcription or a whole lot of other office jobs, just because you didn't study business doesn't disqualify you. You could almost certainly find work as an executive assistant, office manager, account manager, inside sales, or marketing specialist. Those are just a few positions that come to mind that don't require any specific education and while employers may write that you should have a BS in business or a related field that's generally a soft requirement, as long as you got a good head on your shoulders and you can convince them that you're capable of performing the work you should be fine. Many positions list a college degree simply because employers want to screen potential employees, they want to know that you're smart and dedicated enough to make it through college, the field you studies often isn't THAT important unless it's for a technical job.

Now speaking as a guy, even if I made 10 times what my SO made I would still want her to work, not because of money but because I wouldn't want to feel taken advantage of. Now if we had kids it would be a different story, then staying at home is indeed a full-time job in itself but unless you live in a mansion cleaning/cooking does not take up that much time. Considering your mental state I don't think you're ready to have children so I'd really urge to to further explore possible job opportunities, again, it doesn't have to be retail or serving, there are plenty of other jobs you could perform. If you have a good idea you can always start your own business too, that's what I did, so did my brother, mother and dad, we all have our own businesses. It's perfectly doable if you apply yourself and that way you don't have to be part of the rat race.

Perhaps in some way you're feeling entitled, you got a college degree with the expectation that you would easily find a job but trust me, it doesn't work that way for a lot of people, you're not the only one. When you only apply for jobs that are publicly posted you're not taking charge of your life, you're waiting for others to decide for you. Don't make excuses such as not knowing the right people, sure, some people have stuff fall into their lap but the majority doesn't even if it may seem that way. If there's a company you'd like to work for go knocking on doors until you find the right person to talk to and introduce yourself, don't wait for them to post a job because at that stage you'll end up competing with 500 other applicants. Attend lectures, trade shows or whatever else is related to the field you want to work in and start networking, that's how the really successful people get jobs. 

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2 hours ago, Chubbybunny89 said:

Thanks guys. I'll look into it. I don't have an aversion to people, just my OCD and germphobia might cost me a regular job. I also can't drive, and that is a big issue since there's very very limited public transit where I live.

You can all ignore this next bit, I just need to rant and don't wanna start a new thread.

I'm slowly losing the desire to get a job. Maybe I'm lazy. Maybe I'm stubborn and entitled.I mean I worked in research labs in college, and now I'm being told to get a job at Target by the people I know. I just don't see any reason to be a freaking cashier when my partner who wants to make a future with me makes three to four times the amount I am ever capable of making. I know I sound like a gold-digging ***** right now, but for real, no one wants to work retail or food service. Most people hate their jobs anyways, my anxiety issue would just amplify in those settings. Why would I want to work? Seriously why? If I can't do what I loved doing and got an education for then why slave away making minimum wage when married to someone who makes enough for both of us? I know feminism, being independent, don't rely on a man blah blah look I'm tired. I'm tired, depressed, frustrated and it has come to the point where I want to just be happy. I don't mind being some freaking housewife. I see myself being happier in that role than slaving away in retail. I would rather spend time with family, working on side projects, writing etc.. maybe find some convention or lecture to go to in order to stay informed in my field than work Black Friday at Wal-Mart. I grew up seeing my mom miss Thanksgiving, work days on end and still have financial problems. It's not worth it. Yeah, I made a mistake racking up debt from college I likely won't be able to pay off. Yea I know I should be hardworking, and have dignity. But you know- I feel embarrassed. I would rather, by choice stay home and raise a family or whatever, than have to tell my Doctor sister-in-law that I wait tables. Or have people look at him, the engineer, and see me, the Target cashier. Let me make this clear-I do not look down on anyone who performs in these jobs. What my issue is is that I went from feeling like I could be someone, being very happy in science to miserable crushed dreams etc.. I did not go to college to find work, I went to college because I love science. Yeah that's probably the worst reason to pursue an education- "passion". 

Am I wrong? Am I a terrible person? Of course, if I was struggling and he wasn't so well off I would get any job. But given the choice where he is doing alright, I just don't see how it is logical to make myself miserable. I mean, I've been a stay at home whatever off and on between my crappy part-time jobs anyway. I realize I have a lot of freetime. And using that to apply to jobs, cry and be miserable is wasting my life. I should use it to learn languages, start projects, write my book, etc.. Things I wouldn't have time to do if I had to work 6 days a week for 9/hr. I realize I probably sound like a brat. Sure maybe I'm a moocher, but the dude gets his laundry and dishes done by someone else. Meals cooked, I clean up after him begrudgingly cause honey I am not truly submissive, but I would rather do this than deal with "I want to talk to a manager!" "A kid threw up on the slide go clean it!" "Your bills are overdue")

I mean, look I consider myself a feminist by the original definition. However, I do feel pressured. I feel feminism should have given us the choice that if we want to work we should be able to etc.. not that we have to. Cause trust me 90% of people in the world work because they have to not because they want to. And you what, it should be the same for guys too. If you want to be a stay at home dad/boyfriend there shouldn't be an issue. Just find a partner who is okay with it. Why is everyone expected to work the traditional rat race? Hard work does not pay off anymore. That only wokred in the 50's. These days people can work 3 jobs and live paycheck to paycheck. Starve or be tied to a crappy job. 

I feel I will be looked down on less if I have made a choice rather than being some failure who could never get a real job despite having gone to college. "Oh you studied this and now you flip burgers! And you're in debt! Yay you!" It's very frustrating. It's so frustrating that I have resorted to ironing shirts (literally) and acting like some submissive bleck... Yeah I wanna be self sufficient. But I haven't seen a way yet. Heck, if I just team up with this dude we can make phone apps together, buy a condo and rent it out etc... I could have earning potential then. But I don't see it by me applying and applying and applying. Most people I know either were engineers or in medicine or they knew someone who knew someone or their uncle worked at the business etc.. Rarely does anyone get a good deal through this annoying application process. Hell, I feel I could do better if face to face drop ins were still a thing.

Okay I'm done ranting. Feel free to be brutally honest. I need to hear it. Am I wrong for feeling this way? 

I literally feel and think the same way as what you right it does feel awful to at a minimum wage job with a bunch of people that don't even have there Ged's and have criminal records like I did when I worked at a ****ing gas station with my bachlors in biology I took the most difficult classes possible and had no life in college took hard science classes for my electives. I always feel like i have to prove im going to get a better job and im always bringing up interviews i get because I feel like I have to defend myself.

Maybe try to get a job in a upscale clothing store or restaurant why haven't you gotten your license yet Germophobia or a fear of driving. I would still get a job what if you and your boyfriend break up, I would think that would cause alot of tension eventually and employers don't like to see big gaps in unemployment.

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2 hours ago, Chubbybunny89 said:

Thanks guys. I'll look into it. I don't have an aversion to people, just my OCD and germphobia might cost me a regular job. I also can't drive, and that is a big issue since there's very very limited public transit where I live.

You can all ignore this next bit, I just need to rant and don't wanna start a new thread.

I'm slowly losing the desire to get a job. Maybe I'm lazy. Maybe I'm stubborn and entitled.I mean I worked in research labs in college, and now I'm being told to get a job at Target by the people I know. I just don't see any reason to be a freaking cashier when my partner who wants to make a future with me makes three to four times the amount I am ever capable of making. I know I sound like a gold-digging ***** right now, but for real, no one wants to work retail or food service. Most people hate their jobs anyways, my anxiety issue would just amplify in those settings. Why would I want to work? Seriously why? If I can't do what I loved doing and got an education for then why slave away making minimum wage when married to someone who makes enough for both of us? I know feminism, being independent, don't rely on a man blah blah look I'm tired. I'm tired, depressed, frustrated and it has come to the point where I want to just be happy. I don't mind being some freaking housewife. I see myself being happier in that role than slaving away in retail. I would rather spend time with family, working on side projects, writing etc.. maybe find some convention or lecture to go to in order to stay informed in my field than work Black Friday at Wal-Mart. I grew up seeing my mom miss Thanksgiving, work days on end and still have financial problems. It's not worth it. Yeah, I made a mistake racking up debt from college I likely won't be able to pay off. Yea I know I should be hardworking, and have dignity. But you know- I feel embarrassed. I would rather, by choice stay home and raise a family or whatever, than have to tell my Doctor sister-in-law that I wait tables. Or have people look at him, the engineer, and see me, the Target cashier. Let me make this clear-I do not look down on anyone who performs in these jobs. What my issue is is that I went from feeling like I could be someone, being very happy in science to miserable crushed dreams etc.. I did not go to college to find work, I went to college because I love science. Yeah that's probably the worst reason to pursue an education- "passion". 

Am I wrong? Am I a terrible person? Of course, if I was struggling and he wasn't so well off I would get any job. But given the choice where he is doing alright, I just don't see how it is logical to make myself miserable. I mean, I've been a stay at home whatever off and on between my crappy part-time jobs anyway. I realize I have a lot of freetime. And using that to apply to jobs, cry and be miserable is wasting my life. I should use it to learn languages, start projects, write my book, etc.. Things I wouldn't have time to do if I had to work 6 days a week for 9/hr. I realize I probably sound like a brat. Sure maybe I'm a moocher, but the dude gets his laundry and dishes done by someone else. Meals cooked, I clean up after him begrudgingly cause honey I am not truly submissive, but I would rather do this than deal with "I want to talk to a manager!" "A kid threw up on the slide go clean it!" "Your bills are overdue")

I mean, look I consider myself a feminist by the original definition. However, I do feel pressured. I feel feminism should have given us the choice that if we want to work we should be able to etc.. not that we have to. Cause trust me 90% of people in the world work because they have to not because they want to. And you what, it should be the same for guys too. If you want to be a stay at home dad/boyfriend there shouldn't be an issue. Just find a partner who is okay with it. Why is everyone expected to work the traditional rat race? Hard work does not pay off anymore. That only wokred in the 50's. These days people can work 3 jobs and live paycheck to paycheck. Starve or be tied to a crappy job. 

I feel I will be looked down on less if I have made a choice rather than being some failure who could never get a real job despite having gone to college. "Oh you studied this and now you flip burgers! And you're in debt! Yay you!" It's very frustrating. It's so frustrating that I have resorted to ironing shirts (literally) and acting like some submissive bleck... Yeah I wanna be self sufficient. But I haven't seen a way yet. Heck, if I just team up with this dude we can make phone apps together, buy a condo and rent it out etc... I could have earning potential then. But I don't see it by me applying and applying and applying. Most people I know either were engineers or in medicine or they knew someone who knew someone or their uncle worked at the business etc.. Rarely does anyone get a good deal through this annoying application process. Hell, I feel I could do better if face to face drop ins were still a thing.

Okay I'm done ranting. Feel free to be brutally honest. I need to hear it. Am I wrong for feeling this way? 

I'm just throwing an idea out, but would a job coach help?

 

- KS

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Well, I typed responses to every single one of you guys. But I was simultaneously in the chat, the chat froze on me, and I hit restart and lost everything I was typing. I'm not typing that essay again so let me try and answer everything as short and sweet as possible.

job coach- I looked into that in the past. They cost money. Money I don't have and would never ask to borrow from my significant other for such a thing. I kinda think they are scams. When I reached out to the university career center here saying "I'm not a student, but I need help" they send me a list of those in this area. Every single one charges $100 an hour or half hour. I was like "yea no, making money off the unemployed that's just dirty"

Getting a job outside of retail- I've tried. I  have applied to admin assist, to office jobs, to marketing jobs, to..you name it! I never hear back. And when I do it's that rejection. They want someone who is either experienced or has a relevent education. I've even applied for internships. I don't hear back. The only things I hear back from are pyramid schemes or commission only jobs. Before I moved, a part-time retail job was the only thing I was able to land. Come to find out the store was planning to close in a few months too and that's why I was able to get that so easily. Mind you, I was not told they were closing in a few months during the interview. It wasn't until I hot the floor and my coworkers told me "you know the store is closing?" I liked my coworkers, but I hated retail. I had mini breakdowns thinking "I used to work this and now I'm here while my friends are all living independently able to pay their bills and work in their own fields."  Believe me if I got offered a position as one of those I would take it! And I'm still applying to them but nothing has happened. 

The biggest reason I am scared of being stuck in retail/food service is not just that I've failed to land any job outside of that, but also I've witnessed my mother get stuck. My mom has a bachelor's degree, she went to grad school, worked at a psych hospital til she got pregnant with me. She's been a real estate agent, a travel agent, she worked helping international students find host families and then she got into retail. She worked and went into management. She spent years being miserable and her health declining. She was forced to work overnight. She is diabetic and has sleep apnea. She even got a doctor's note,but they still forced her to stay overnight. She had bosses who were bullies. One, in particular, made her cry everyday-and my mom doesn't just cry. During this phase my mom went into job hunt mode-at the same time I was. She, someone who has not only management experience, but decades of experience and skills, couldn't find a job. Of course, my parents have a mortgage, so my mom could not quit her job, and she couldn't quit her job and take any job as a waitress or cashier because then they wouldn't be able to make payments and would lose the house. It was not until I had been living with my boyfriend for awhile that my mom finally convinced my dad to take a renter. They rented out the bottom half of the house and with that extra income my mom was able to step down and become a cashier at another store-the same company. She's still there. So, I've this personal fear that once in retail-always-even though I know that isn't true. but I have never known anyone who climbed up unless it was through a college degree and getting a job after college. The people I've known who had degrees and got into retail-don't get back up again. And personal experience sometimes trumps logic. So yea, I'd much rather not got through that.

Why don't I drive- that's a long story. Basically at 16 my dad stopped teaching me after maybe the third time taking me out driving. I almost hit a parked car and he jumped out of the truck and wailed that his heart couldn't take it, and that was it. My mom tried, but this was during her overnight times so she didn't have the time or energy. Then come college I literally could walk to school, and the town had a decent public transit system so I just never got around to it. Then, later on, I was in a minor wreck with my best friend and developed what I can only call minor PTSD. I jump when a car merges next to us, I tense up when the car is going over 30 mph, I get anxiety attacks on the highway. When I am behind the wheel (last time was Christmas day) I am stiff, paranoid, and overly cautious. I get paranoid about dumb drivers who run red lights, drive drunk, and don't use turn signals. In essence I am, according to my defensive driving instruction "patient and a safe driver" because of this,but still. I am also ADD and paranoid that one slip up will cost me my life or ability to walk. I've failed the test three times. Thanks anxiety. Ruined my life. That's why I'm here on this forum. It's something I am working on though. 

 

Yea I know it seems like I am using him. If it is any consolation-the man doesn't do anything at home except his projects etc.. Occasionally he will want to cook something (we come from different cultures so sometimes he likes to try his hand at it and I try to pick up on it) but I'm always the one doing dishes, doing and folding laundry, ironing, vaccuming, wiping counters, etc..etc.. I basically do everything a stay at home mom does except the children. He also hears me complain about jobs and money and sees me applying to jobs, and crying(I cry everytime I job hunt..lol), and talking to recruiters on the phone so that might be why he doesn't feel used? I did this same stuff too when I was working. Granted it was part-time, and I was not making enough to cover even half the rent. 

What if we breakup?- I've tried to make him leave me. First when I got fired from that one job after an anxiety attack. I couldn't handle being with someone successful, couldn't face his successful family etc.. I tried making him leave when he started expressing he was discontent and unhappy. I've tried making him when my Seasonal Affective Disorder got so bad I wasn't functional. He moved because of that. I never verbally asked him to move. All I said was "I can't take another winter here I'm afraid of what I will do next time" Thinking that meant we would break up-the man freakin' moved with me.  When we have intense fights and he brings up breaking up, I push him to it. But then he gets angry and says I need to work on things/change/fix things etc.. I've tried making him breakup with me because I feel it's unfair to date someone like me, and also his family is intimidatingly successful (doctors and engineers). Basically this guy isn't going anywhere. And I sure as hell am not leaving him. If you found someone who would move to stay with you would you really breakup? He doesn't cheat, he doesn't hit me, or verbally attack me (well he criticizes and has wild mood swings but...) that aside he is literally a conglomeration of everything I want in a guy. If I breakup I'm done dating for one. And two I have places to go-parents, grandmas, aunt's in hawaii (if she'd take me)-and in all of those cases guess who would have no choice but to get a food/retail job cause my family sure as heck doesn't making 6 figs. So if we breakup I won't be homeless,but I definitely will be tad ticked about my life. Also, if we breakup I would move away. Without a doubt I would move away. Cause I run away from my problems...

Let me put it this way- if I marry this guy(and we basically plan to) I have 0 problems signing a prenup. I am not one of those women who would claim that half his money is mine. It is not. I have no possession of his money that he earned, even if I'm married to him. IF I'm with him I can enjoy the pleasures it will bring, but I would never in a million years "leave with half".

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39 minutes ago, Chubbybunny89 said:

job coach- I looked into that in the past. They cost money. Money I don't have and would never ask to borrow from my significant other for such a thing. I kinda think they are scams. When I reached out to the university career center here saying "I'm not a student, but I need help" they send me a list of those in this area. Every single one charges $100 an hour or half hour. I was like "yea no, making money off the unemployed that's just dirty"

It's not a scam, if someone is good $100 is perfectly reasonable. It may seem like a lot when you compare it to someone's hourly wage but when you're running your own business you HAVE to charge that much to make a decent wage, it's what I charge my clients too and I certainly don't make a fortune... You pay all the employer-side taxes yourself, business expenses, possibly office space, collection efforts (some people don't pay their bills) or losses, admin overhead, there's downtime and slow months that you have to make up for, no sick days, no vacation, no bonus, health insurance etc. Yeah it sucks to charge the unemployed but they need to make money too, it's not charity.

Where a job coach could really help you is the application process. So many people just stink at selling themselves, they don't know how to use nontraditional means of finding employment and only rely on responding to job ads, that's not taking charge of your life, you're throwing yourself at the mercy of others begging for a chance.

Most people aren't any good at responding to job ads, even many people with advanced degrees suck at it! It has nothing to do with intelligence, it's all about salesmanship. Applications really need to be tailored to a potential employer, it's about what you can do for them, not why you want the job. Same goes for your resume, most people just use a generic template they find online and fill in all the info without really highlighting any achievements and then they go on and stuff it with irrelevant information trying to meet a certain page count. An employer doesn't so much care about the duties you performed, they want to see what you achieved. You can write "handled incoming calls" or you can write something along the lines of "provided excellent customer service resulting in a 20% increase in customer satisfaction". Results need to be quantified if possible. If you don't have the experience they are looking for but think you could do the job then you need to find someone to talk to because nowadays many companies use an ATS (applicant tracking system) that will filter you out without a human ever looking at it.

The same thing goes for interviews... Most people are passive or even worse, they beg for the job. Seriously, I've had friends go to interviews telling them that they were hard working and needed the job so they can support their kids. An employer generally doesn't give a sh1t about what you want or need. Unless there aren't enough applicants companies will turn you down. You need to be energetic and excited, show them that you're passionate about working for them and explain what you could do for them, turn the whole thing around and make them think that they can't afford not to hire you. Even if you don't have much confidence you can learn to do those things, you just need someone to coach you.

Granted, it's a lot harder if you don't have much work experience but it's doable, you just need someone to show you how. 

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Problem is I don't have an extra $100 to spend on them. I mean, that $100 could go to them where I risk not having any change, or it can go to paying off my loans. My mother put down $100 for a resume critique and it didn't do her any good. So I'm doubtful, especially since I don't have much money and especially since I dished out a lot for college and got nothing.

The only way I can muster that sort of passion is when it is a lab job interview. I get excited when I see some jobs I would love to get. I've gotten good feedback from interviews. But either don't hear back, or someone with more experience got the job (understandably). People don't really age out of my field, they sort of age into it. So it's very hard on newbies. I was told during an interview how hard it was from someone who has a Ph.D. in my degree.  But you're right. You really got to fake it. No wonder people are two-faced these days 

 

You said you opened your own business right? And you've family members who did the same? What kind of businesses do you guys run? Starting a business is something I'm trying to look into.. actually, we both want to.

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45 minutes ago, Chubbybunny89 said:

Problem is I don't have an extra $100 to spend on them. I mean, that $100 could go to them where I risk not having any change, or it can go to paying off my loans. My mother put down $100 for a resume critique and it didn't do her any good. So I'm doubtful, especially since I don't have much money and especially since I dished out a lot for college and got nothing.

There are a lot of useless coaches out there, that's true. If you're going to spend money you really need to make sure the person knows their stuff. If you can't afford it right now then it's a moot point anyway but my advice would be to always look at it through the eyes of the employer. What would you want to see when hiring someone?

48 minutes ago, Chubbybunny89 said:

The only way I can muster that sort of passion is when it is a lab job interview. I get excited when I see some jobs I would love to get. I've gotten good feedback from interviews. But either don't hear back, or someone with more experience got the job (understandably). People don't really age out of my field, they sort of age into it. So it's very hard on newbies. I was told during an interview how hard it was from someone who has a Ph.D. in my degree.  But you're right. You really got to fake it. No wonder people are two-faced these days 

That's the drawback with highly technical jobs, they're all about your qualifications so it's hard to get a chance as a newbie which is why I would focus on some other field or do your own thing. And yes, sometimes you really just have to fake it. It's the norm and you put yourself at a disadvantage if you don't. When I used to have a normal office job I saw a ton of people who oversold themselves and couldn't deliver on their promises but you know what? They got the job and a great salary, even though many couldn't deliver on their promises they did a good enough job not to get fired. Someone who was honest about what they can do for the company wouldn't have gotten the job in the first place and even if, at much lower pay. It sucks but it is what it is. We don't have to like the rules of the game but unless you start your own business it's something you'll just have to put up with.

52 minutes ago, Chubbybunny89 said:

You said you opened your own business right? And you've family members who did the same? What kind of businesses do you guys run? Starting a business is something I'm trying to look into.. actually, we both want to.

I sent you a PM with more information.

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30 minutes ago, KidSurvivor2011 said:

The whole system of job-searching has gotten out of control and so ridiculous that I could write a thesis on it. Ugh, I just wish I had the right words.

 

- KS

Write some LinkedIn articles and then publish a book ;-) You got an opportunity right there, many people are incredibly frustrated by it!

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7 minutes ago, KidSurvivor2011 said:

A book? I'd be a New York Times best-selling writer then.

Haha, you very well may! Often it's not about being the best writer out there but about writing things that resonate with people. Thus LinkedIn articles to gain a following and once you have enough people interested in what you have to say you could probably sell a book and have it be successful! But there's even money to be made without writing a book, with a witty style and good things to say even bloggers can make a living. If you hate the rat race choose not to be a rat ;-) 

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