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Is Your Doctor Afraid Of You?


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I thought this was an interesting read, for those suffering health issues no one seems to do anything about.  I hope you find it helpful.

Is Your Doctor Afraid Of You?

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OH! Ooohhhh... do you scare your doctors like that.. I don't know! :D
I have scared plenty of people just being myself ;)
Neat article

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3 minutes ago, ShhPatrick said:

OH! Ooohhhh... do you scare your doctors like that.. I don't know! :D
I have scared plenty of people just being myself ;)
Neat article

LOL!  ShhPatrick, 

My doctor scares the crap out of me though! lol!  Glad you enjoyed the read!!

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2 minutes ago, Debbers said:

LOL!  ShhPatrick, 

My doctor scares the crap out of me though! lol!  Glad you enjoyed the read!!

:o  your doc scares you? 

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4 minutes ago, ShhPatrick said:

:o  your doc scares you? 

Yeah, he scared me last time because he knows I'm a bad patient.  I'm the sort of patient who has no patience.  Like when I thought my broken hand was healed enough, I took the cast off too soon, etc.  Doctors don't like that sort of thing.  Plus, he finds stuff I don't want him to find.  Like last time, I told him I had a pain in my ribs and through my back that occasionally got totally out of control and the dang doctor had me get my gallbladder out!!!!  For cryin' out loud!!!  I can't tell that guy anything!!!! LOL!!!!!

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Debbers- hahahaha :D  
I hear you, I have no patience anymore either
I'm glad you told your doc about your gall bladder :)

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Debbers- hahahaha :D  
I hear you, I have no patience anymore either
I'm glad you told your doc about your gall bladder :)

Yeah, lol, he's a really good guy.  He really listens and takes his time with his patients too.  I never really had conversations with doctors in the past.  I always felt like I might be cutting into their golf game or something!  lol! 

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That was a great read and very understandable.  I once had a doctor who said something beautiful and powerful - a doctor's job is to educate his or her patients. 

Although you "scare" your doctor (haha), I'm glad you found such a good one.  Ones with good bedside manner are hard to come by which is why the day mine ever retires I'm going to feel lost.

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1 minute ago, Azzurra18 said:

That was a great read and very understandable.  I once had a doctor who said something beautiful and powerful - a doctor's job is to educate his or her patients. 

Although you "scare" your doctor (haha), I'm glad you found such a good one.  Ones with good bedside manner are hard to come by which is why the day mine ever retires I'm going to feel lost.

I'm so happy yours is so cool too!  They're one in a million, the good ones! 

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Interesting article, but the first two in the list of advice on dealing with doctors he gives (don't come on too strong and show respect) *really* P***** me off.

Few doctors want to be greeted with the fact that a patient doesn't see them as a god (but you can ease into it)? Too freaking bad! I think instead he should be writing for all doctors and medical school faculty to talk about how to stop medical students and doctors from starting to think they're god-like in the first place, and to really learn how to see their patients as whole people who have something to contribute to their own healthcare, whether they have a chronic illness or not.

And "show respect"??? Seriously??? Of course, both patient and doctor should be respectful of each other, but demanding that a patient "show respect" is over and above that. I can't even think of how to describe why that is so wrong, the phrase made me too angry.

The rest are some interesting points, and I think some of it has to do more with the difficulties with healthcare systems in many places than doctor/patient relationships. Like not coming into an appointment after a long absence with a long list of things to talk about - yes, I can see where that would be a problem because appointment slots are limited, but at the same time, sometimes it's impossible to get appointments so there's no choice about the long absence. Or sticking with only a main primary care doctor and a few specialists and building relationships with your doctors over years - in some healthcare systems, you have to see whoever is available, there's no option to stay with the same doctor all the time.

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1 minute ago, skblue said:

Interesting article, but the first two in the list of advice on dealing with doctors he gives (don't come on too strong and show respect) *really* P***** me off.

Few doctors want to be greeted with the fact that a patient doesn't see them as a god (but you can ease into it)? Too freaking bad! I think instead he should be writing for all doctors and medical school faculty to talk about how to stop medical students and doctors from starting to think they're god-like in the first place, and to really learn how to see their patients as whole people who have something to contribute to their own healthcare, whether they have a chronic illness or not.

And "show respect"??? Seriously??? Of course, both patient and doctor should be respectful of each other, but demanding that a patient "show respect" is over and above that. I can't even think of how to describe why that is so wrong, the phrase made me too angry.

The rest are some interesting points, and I think some of it has to do more with the difficulties with healthcare systems in many places than doctor/patient relationships. Like not coming into an appointment after a long absence with a long list of things to talk about - yes, I can see where that would be a problem because appointment slots are limited, but at the same time, sometimes it's impossible to get appointments so there's no choice about the long absence. Or sticking with only a main primary care doctor and a few specialists and building relationships with your doctors over years - in some healthcare systems, you have to see whoever is available, there's no option to stay with the same doctor all the time.

I see where you're coming from.  When I read it, I just interpreted it as "don't be a blow-hard and people will take you seriously."  I'm sorry the article made you mad, it certainly wasn't my intention.  

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Just now, Debbers said:

I see where you're coming from.  When I read it, I just interpreted it as "don't be a blow-hard and people will take you seriously."  I'm sorry the article made you mad, it certainly wasn't my intention.  

There's nothing for you to apologize for - you didn't write it! And it was interesting to hear it from a doctor's perspective. He probably did mean it in that way, and I get that, it just seemed to me like he could also do a little more work on his own attitude of, "I'm a doctor, so I'm more important than you, no matter what".

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There's nothing for you to apologize for - you didn't write it! And it was interesting to hear it from a doctor's perspective. He probably did mean it in that way, and I get that, it just seemed to me like he could also do a little more work on his own attitude of, "I'm a doctor, so I'm more important than you, no matter what".

I hear you. :)

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I needed this right now. I passed a suicide attempt on my own before so I didn't have to deal with ER doctors or risk being commited.

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My doctors are always afraid of me because I question every single thing they do and always will.  Doctors want you to do exactly what they tell you to do without questioning them.  Usually they have their mind made up about what they are going to do with you before they even hear you speak.  Most doctors have the god complex because an overwhelming majority of doctors have personality disorders.  They don't just act the way they do with patients.  They act that way at home and with everyone.

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3 hours ago, sober4life said:

My doctors are always afraid of me because I question every single thing they do and always will.  Doctors want you to do exactly what they tell you to do without questioning them.  Usually they have their mind made up about what they are going to do with you before they even hear you speak.  Most doctors have the god complex because an overwhelming majority of doctors have personality disorders.  They don't just act the way they do with patients.  They act that way at home and with everyone.

Agreed. HIGH FIVE Sober.

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Back in 1995 I had a female family physician named Deanna. I told her I am scared all the time. She sent me to her psychiatrist friend  Dr. G.   In her letter to Dr. G she said she suspected Schizophrenia.  Dr. G saw me for only a few minutes and asked me only a few questions and came to the incorrect conclusion I am suffering from Schizophrenia.  He sent me back to Deanna.  It was crazy. She was scared of me after hearing about Dr. G's incorrect diagnosis.:smilingteeth::smilingteeth:

Dr. Deanna stopped seeing me.  She handed me over to her male colleague.  

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1 hour ago, duck said:

Back in 1995 I had a female family physician named Deanna. I told her I am scared all the time. She sent me to her psychiatrist friend  Dr. G.   In her letter to Dr. G she said she suspected Schizophrenia.  Dr. G saw me for only a few minutes and asked me only a few questions and came to the incorrect conclusion I am suffering from Schizophrenia.  He sent me back to Deanna.  It was crazy. She was scared of me after hearing about Dr. G's incorrect diagnosis.:smilingteeth::smilingteeth:

Dr. Deanna stopped seeing me.  She handed me over to her male colleague.  

A diagnosis of schizophrenia is money forever for health care.  They could care less if the diagnosis is correct or not.  If you get that diagnosis every doctor you have will be begging to try to get you on disability because you are a lock for it.  Once you are on disability medicare and medicaid comes next and then it's goodbye.  That's the sad thing about health care.  When they figure out your condition is worth a lot of money for them for a long time you can forget about your rights.  They'll put you away in a facility as soon as they can convince everyone around you it's what's best for you.

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12 hours ago, Azzurra18 said:

 

I had a physican make a comment about my opthamologist having poor bedside manner. I laughed and bit my tounge wanting to say something like "He has nothing on psychiatrists and ER staff". My current Psychiatrist is great and I fear his retirement as well.

I have never been pressured or forced to go on anything. I am presented with options and informed of the risks and benifits and instructed to phone immediately if I have issues on the meds. They don't expect a cure and focus on improving symptoms.

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You sound like you have a great psychiatrist.  I like when the focus on bettering the symptoms because it is the symptoms that are the worst, not the depression, anxiety, etc. overall.  

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12 hours ago, LouisRiel said:

I needed this right now. I passed a suicide attempt on my own before so I didn't have to deal with ER doctors or risk being commited.

Your powerful words, LouisRiel, are heard.  I'm so glad you're here. :console:

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8 hours ago, duck said:

Back in 1995 I had a female family physician named Deanna. I told her I am scared all the time. She sent me to her psychiatrist friend  Dr. G.   In her letter to Dr. G she said she suspected Schizophrenia.  Dr. G saw me for only a few minutes and asked me only a few questions and came to the incorrect conclusion I am suffering from Schizophrenia.  He sent me back to Deanna.  It was crazy. She was scared of me after hearing about Dr. G's incorrect diagnosis.:smilingteeth::smilingteeth:

Dr. Deanna stopped seeing me.  She handed me over to her male colleague.  

Dr. Deanna needs to find a new job.  :)

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