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  1. I hope you had a fantastic day :)

  2. Well, I started taking karate two years back, and it helped some, and I learned to drive, but I'm still flat if not depressed, if you know what I mean. This is the the first time in years that I've started a concerted push to reach out to those on the internet, so, I am am taking steps, even if I've not found passion. At least I'm not dog tired, and can focus on immediate pressing issues, without being overwhelmed.
  3. Adderall...been there, done that, doesn't work...also tried the runner's high...not enough, I guess. Rhodiola Rodesia, though, I don't think I've tried...I'd like to learn more...I'm just not motivated. I'd love to find people to compete with intellectually and have sought them out in one of these sister forums, but my form of intellectual fun seems like rape to too many people, I guess...pansies. My hobby, so you know, iis intellectual argument. I have rules, and everything, or principles, as I prefer them. I've also been learning karate, but nothing's stimulated the reward system.
  4. Per the literature, I doubt I'm depressed anymore, even if I'm still recovering. It seems that I had a bad, bad case of of chaos in my prefrontal cortex, rendering me unable to plan, but even at my worst, my mind was filled with ambitious palns and desires which depression kept me from moving towards. I'm calm enough now to execute, but the drive, for the first time in my life, isn't there. Anyone know what I'm talking about? It's nice not to be obsessed, to be addicted, but there's lack of passion that's come with it. I've tried ephedra, which may have helped my concentration, but nothing that really increased my interest in doing things. What will?
  5. Noitartst's Revised Debating Principles 1. Always answer the question acording to the question. 2. The emotion behind the question never excuses mistreating the question. 3. If you ask hard questions, expect nothing less from others, as per the Golden Rule. 4. Building a compliance ladder of questions is more than acceptable. 5. The question not only has complete power to frame the debate, but also to set the tempo. 6. Stonewalling is the gravest, most disrespectful, most cowardly act commitable. 7. The goal is to scourge anything less than brutal honesty out of your oponent, just as he is to scourge it out of you, and thereby atain the comon ground.
  6. But informally, which is what I've been angling for, is, I trust. Otherwise, such such forums would be rather dead. Basically I just seek to challenge the beliefs of others.
  7. I wish I knew how to break qoutations llike yours in to parts, but thanks. There's a disconnect between anger and logic, yet few seem to appreciate it. The goal of debate is to get less angry, not more angry, and I've worked hard at developing guidelines steering towards that end. I should probably, with that in mind, rework No. 5 into something like, "When done in person, the one giving the question has sole power to set the tempo, lest there be dispute as to who, and what, drives the conversation." As to joining a debate society, I graduated from The Evergreen State College, and as "open" as they are, they have none.
  8. If you use this approach then you are just looking for an argument and not an exchange of views or a debate. Best Wishes Jim Bow Really? I simply don't believe that. Social forms are malleable, and I'm simply trying to take advantage of such plasticity.
  9. And just how well has it serve served congress, anyhow? I think we need to follow new social guidelines, given some radical shortcomings therein.
  10. I am a firm believer that a counselor/therapist/psychologist should be worked with on a face to face basis for many reasons. They are trained to read peoples reactions to questions which involves facial expressions, body language, eye contact etc. etc. These are things you cannot really do over the internet, however, if you are not available to have your own personal therapist (again a personal therapist who you meet regularly becomes a very intimate person and friend in your life that you cannot achieve over the internet) there are lots offered on the internet, even here on df, click on live chat under the depressions forums logo and there is a contact right there to talk with a therapist! No offense meant, but I've found counselors to be dogs, basically, who can't take the slightest bit of anger in a question without refusing to to answer it. I ask a question, and they slap it in the face! I'm trying to do a conversation, and they try to start another one separate from the one I thought we had; it's infuriating, I tell you! I don't like it, and I came to conclude online dialog was better, given certain understanding of what is acceptable. Good Luck... and.... a lot of people find that we can offer good advice and were free! We may not be professionals but we like to think we have good advice and comments to offer and I find it *theraputic* to post a topic of my problem and discuss it with others. Feel free to PM me if you wish, I am on DF 3 times a day and my responses are not immediate but I will be your friend and confident if you wish to vent in private or let it all out in private, if I feel I am over my head, I will let you know... I appreciate it. Most of all, I want to be told what people really think of my questions. I loathe superficial blather, and mostly, I just want appreciation for the depth of my thought. Don't be vague, or I'll tighten the screws; follow the Golden Rule, which in my case, is a whuppin' stick, that sorta thing. In short, I promise to treat ya like a friend, and friends don't let friends think sloppily; if they do, then prepare to be deconstructed. PS: If you think I'm quoting you bizarrely, it's because I couldn't figure out ho to qoute yas in fragments, so I hit on my own method; I hope it's effective.
  11. By the way, just how do you multi-quote somebody, or break down a quote into multiple quotes, and reply to them piecemeal? I've spent too much of my afternoon trying to decipher this, and It's not been fun.
  12. Well, I trust that following my rules, a sucessful outcome will be atained nine times outtta ten, or something like it.
  13. Noitartst's Debating Principles 1. Always answer the question acording to the question. 2. The emotion behind the question never excuses mistreating the question. 3. If you ask hard questions, expect nothing less from others, as per the Golden Rule. 4. Building a compliance ladder of questions is more than acceptable. 5. If you don't like your logic being picked apart by your oponent, then I would sugest you start picking apart your oponent's. 6. Stonewalling is the gravest, most disrespectful, most cowardly act commitable. 7. The goal is to scourge anything less than brutal honesty out of your oponent, just as he is to scourge it out of you, and thereby atain the comon ground. Respecting these principles, I'd love to duke it out with anyone who's willing. Any takers?
  14. Methinks they''re intimidated. I kept proposing a format that others were afraid of, and that was fraustrating that nobady ever tried it. At the time, I was going crazy, and mostly, I was concerned about others abusing my train of thought. Essentially, my idea was thast any refusal to answer the question acording to the question was rude, as long as the question wasn't too intimate, or something like that. Unable to develop rapport with anyone, I shriveled. this is the first timne I've really tried to open up in a long time, trying to debate somewbody without crashing into a stonewall. Argument, to me, is a game, and I wanna start playing.
  15. Are there any available, and if so, where do I find 'em?
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