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  1. I’m sorry, I promise I’m not trying to antagonize or anything like that, but this is just not even remotely true whatsoever. I would love to tell the OP something positive and uplifting like this, but he needs to be told the truth. The truth is we’re born with a set of biological imperatives that are hardwired into us by evolution, and mating preferences are an evolved thing. It is a fact that women are hardwired by evolution to prefer particular traits in men, as they are signs of high testosterone, and are therefore good predictors of resources and a strong mate. These traits include a strong jawline, broad shoulders, and an alpha personality. So yes, you do have to be a handsome man to get a quality woman. There is no exception to this rule. That’s not to say that ugly men cannot get women, but it won’t be what is considered by men to be an attractive or desirable woman. Men also have inborn biological imperatives when choosing women too. They overwhelmingly prefer the hourglass figure because it is a sign of health and fertility, and the ability to successfully bear children. Survival in evolutionary terms has a lot to do with mating success, and these mating preferences are hardwired into us because survival meant seeking out the mates most likely to produce viable and successful offspring. Therefore our preferences became cemented into our brains.
  2. Desperateloser, my heart goes out to you. I know the kind of pain you’re in. I know it like the very back of my hand. When you look in the mirror and detest what you see, and wonder “why me?” it just crushes your soul. You see how everyone else has it easier. They’re at least acceptable looking, and people accept them. Bud, I’ve got the exact same problem as you, being ugly. I was born with a severe case of pectus excavatum. My body is one effed up looking pile of garbage. I’ve actually got several deformities. I’ve never had a girlfriend and still a virgin at age 28. So trust me I get your pain. I know that I’ve been able to cope with it more by living alone on my rural land and doing hard work all day every day. I know this is not possible for most people, but maybe if you think you can’t succeed in normal life, you can detach from it somehow? I know that I very much enjoy the escapist life. But then again it’s easy for me because I hate people. Maybe it’s not for you though. Just a suggestion. But know you’re not alone.
  3. It just depends on what you mean by “lovable”. If you mean that the vast majority of us mean something special to somebody, then certainly yes, most of us are lovable (i.e. my little 10 year old niece thinks the world of me). But if you mean that all of us have potential romantic partners out there waiting for us, this is most definitely not the case unfortunately. I’m not saying this to be pessimistic or negative, I’m genuinely speaking in understood science here. Let me explain... In the natural world (i.e. the world we live in) there is a phenomenon known as natural selection. Natural selection is not a tangible “thing” or a “force”. It’s merely the name we give to the struggle and fight for organisms to survive and procreate. Imagine a population of fish with a wide variance in traits (genes). Some members of the population have dull grey gills that make them blend with the ocean floor, while others in the population have shiny gills that make them stand out. When the shark comes along to hunt for lunch, the fish with shiny gills that stand out to the shark’s eyes will get picked off first, while the grey-gilled fish survive. The grey-gilled fish therefore get to pass on their genes, and thus the good genes have been selected for. This process of natural selection is true across all species including humans. Thousands and millions of years ago before the advent of modern egalitarian human societies, humans had to deal with the full force of natural selection just like every other animal. There were no elderly, overweight, unhealthy, sickly, or weak people back then because being any of those things meant you would die. Hence, natural selection. If you don’t have the genes that promote survival, you don’t survive, and this is natures way of getting rid of the good genes, and promoting the furtherance of the better genes. [DF Admin note: some content removed due to sexist or misogynist tones/expressions] so to conclude, once you’ve learned the facts of what’s really going on in the world and you have no delusions about it, it can no longer be seen as the world we were all raised to believe it was. The world where “anyone can do anything they set their minds to” and where “everyone has a special someone out there waiting for them”. This is a fantasy world that simply does not comport with the real world. The death rate today would be astronomical if not for the advent of modern, egalitarian society where there is technology and security. You can be a weak, low IQ, overweight, or some other unhealthy undesirable individual in todays world and still survive because of the safe modern world we’ve created wherein the weak links in human populations don’t get what they would’ve once had coming to them by natural selection. Therefore, since the people with poor genetics are now able to survive instead of die, there are a lot of lonely, undesirable people in the world who will never find partners/love, [some content removed] I hope this made sense to you. Take care.
  4. I know it shattered me when I began to realize this. I was always depressed and had suicidal thoughts, but the belief in the back of my mind that I did possess the power to change it always gave me just enough comfort to not be fully suicidal. But now that I’ve gained a better understanding of life and reality, I’m just broken down. Life is an absolute tragedy when you fully understand the truth of it all. It is not the world we were sold.
  5. See this is the type of lie op is talking about. This is the platitude we were all sold growing up. But the more you learn about reality, the more you see how utterly wrong it is. Life is absolutely NOT “what we make it”. We are victims of our genes. We are at their mercy. They determine what we can/can’t do. For some of us, we might as well just die because evolution has determined that we’re failures.
  6. MY mind has been dwelling on the same thing. We are our genes. Our genes determine what we look like, how attractive we are, how talented we are, etc... You aren’t either dealt a good hand or you’re not. If you’re not, nothing you can do about it. There is no such thing as “self-improvement” or “practice”. Your genes determine it all. It sucks. It’s not the world we were told it was when we were children. The world where “everyone is capable of anything they set their mind to”, or where “there’s someone out there for everyone”. There are ones who have been gifted with the right genes to make it work, and others who might as well **** ourselves.
  7. What happened to my thread? There were like 20 replies, now there are only 3.
  8. If you were to tell someone, who would it be?
  9. If you would like to talk more about this I’m here to listen. Say whatever you want.
  10. Hello everyone! This is my first post. I’m making this thread for the purpose of exploring and discussing the legitimacy and necessity of my existence. I want to discuss whether or not, given the requisite circumstances which I’m about to lay out, it is acceptable for me to be alive or to continue living. I suppose I should lay out the relevant facts about myself and my life so that we can discuss whether or not I constitue a worthy human being. Firstly, I’m incredibly stupid. I was in special education throughout grade school, and was a D- F student in high school who barely squeaked by. In college I failed nearly every class I took, having to repeat the same classes for several years before eventually being kicked out. As an adult I’ve had several menial jobs, many of them ending in me being dismissed/fired. I’m very incompetent in most, if not all, things I do. I seem to have a proclivity for failure that is unprecedented. I’m currently unemployed and continue to live with my parents. I’m 27 years old and am still a kissless virgin. I’ve never had a girlfriend or been on a date in my entire life. This is due to being ugly first and foremost, but also to being undesirable in terms of personality as well. There are many other smoking gun facts about myself that contribute to my undesirable status, but I think these facts that I’ve laid out are certainly enough on their own to establish my undesirability quite firmly. Because of the staggering and overwhelming degree of my terrible traits, I have come to question the worthiness of my life. I believe that If one were to take out a multi-varied analysis of my life using the most basic and trivial standards of what constitutes a legitimate human life, one would clearly see that all unfavorable blanks would be checked, and that the results would certainly show that I am unfit to live. All of these things I say from a purely objective standpoint. In more recent years I have come to believe that my existence is a pernicious burden to the world I interact with. I believe that if ever there were a standard by which lives were assessed for their fitness to be alive, I would undoubtedly fail in every respect. I therefore believe that I should not waste another moment trying to improve upon my life, or trying to undo the damage that has been done. I believe that my chances should be up. I believe that my life and existence should be terminated. That is what I believe, and I think I’ve got it right.
  11. Definitely true. I marvel at how others seem to attract people left and right while people seem to bolt from me in droves. I can never seem to make or keep friends. Also, animals are not enough. It’s got to be people. That’s just the way it is.
  12. I understand all your concerns. I don’t wish to get into my motivations for asking this question. I’ll just say thanks and move on.
  13. If you can’t answer my question can you at least refer me to some resources wherein I might could find the answers I’m after?
  14. I really would appreciate it if someone would answer my question and give me the names of some drugs that would eliminate the inhibition and fear of committing suicide.
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