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  1. On 4/4/2022 at 12:11 PM, runninghope said:

    Had this problem for 20 years now, will try to explain it. I hope you can give me some advices. 

    1) I am sleepy with low motivation all day and evening. I want to lie on bed, curl in a ball and wait. I could sleep for 15 hours if alarm didnt wake me up. It is extremely hard for me to wake up, whether its 8 am, 10 am, 1 pm or 3pm. 
    2) When it is time to sleep, like midnight, 1am or 2am and i get into bed, i get extremely restless, nervous and anxious. I feel like a hyperactive kid that has been tied up to bed. Its pure agony that i cant even explain. During day i could close my eyes and just make plans and think about things. At night when its sleep time i cant do that, i get extremely restless and anxious and nervous. 
    3) I take 5mg Zyprexa (Olanzapine) 3 hours before sleep, doctor gave it to me to help me sleep (dont have any psychotic ilness otherwise). I fall asleep alright now, but now i could sleep 15 hours, no matter if i sleep 7 or 12 hours, its hard to wake up and i remain sleepy. Without the pill, i can never fall asleep before 5 am, which means i cant wake up before 12:00. I am on different types of antidepressants for all those 20 years. 

    I tried more or less everything. Tried coffe, tried no coffe.  I have lots of dreams, i dream every night, could write a book about it.  Wondering if this is the reason i am always so sleepy ? Another interesting thing. If i wake up before 11 am, my back hurts (had operation a while back). Even if i sleep for 12 hours, or 7 hours, my back will hurt if its before 11 am. I have no idea why it matters when i wake up and not how long i sleep. Even pain pill wont help me. I am trying to get a new job and this sleepiness thing is really blowing my chances and making my life hell. Please help me if you can. 

    Have you tried a sleep specialist? They often work hand in hand with your shrink.

    I too could sleep fpr 20 hours and yet force myself to bed. Sleeping disorders can boost up depression a lot and wise versa.

  2. Even though I am on disability I am allowed to earn some money. This Wednesday I am supposed to start as a parcel delivery driver. Haven't been working in ages. Little exited but little scared because it's hard to push depression away. Plus sleeping disorder which I gotta control. Let's hope it works out. 

  3. 10 hours ago, surfcaster said:

    it seems i exercise by walking 3 to 4 miles a day and work around the yard and house just to maintain current weight, i do ok eating all day, then when night comes and i'm not busy i snack too much, if i could just not snack.

    I suppose you take meds that gain weight?

  4. After losing a few lbs for the last 3 months I ate too much sweet and junk foods. I didn't even notice I was back at my peak 2 weeks ago. It is better to be overweight but healthy than sick and skinny but the reason what added to my weight gain is not my medication for depression but sleeping pills. For the last 2-3 months I also was taking 3-4 times a week mirtazapine and chlorpromazine to help me fall asleep. I believe that boosted my weight gain.

    So from tomorrow I am stopping those and will try to deal with my sleeping disorder in other ways. Also I wanna do some light exercise such as swimming, walking, etc...

    But I have a question or two. If you take drugs that cause weight gain, can they cause extra weight even if you avoid fat foods or even if you have low appetite?

    Also, if you are on such drugs (because I still take suboxone and klonopin) can you lose weight still if you exercise?

    Many people are stuck between obesity and depression (or other mental illness). They find meds that help them but gain too much weight and if they stop then they go right back into depression. In some cases the obesity makes people more depressed. I am very overweight but thanks to my height it is easier for me than for others many who have this problem.


  5. 3 hours ago, nojoy said:


    Even with a referral from your medical doctor, you can't see a gastroenterologist for this procedure?  I hope you get help soon. I know this is making daily life hard & spending every day going to the ER & waiting to be seen is worse.

    The way it works here is complicated. Doctors are very reluctant to send you to a GI  if they do it has to be specific otherwise GI will refuse it like it happened in my case. Waiting times are at least 1 year, partially because it is free and partialy because of covid. But I did manage to get it done yesterday. It is weird how you can have scary symptoms and negative test results.

    IDK which is better or worse. Free health care but long waiting times or expensive hc but having to pay. The latter one is better if you have money but if you don't it's tough. I have friends and family in the states and some can't get treated because they can't afford and here no worries about pay but you can die due to waiting. 

  6. I know this is not an easy or even a good question but due to my physical symptoms I need a gastroscopy. My doctor agrees but there's only the referral he can do and told me to keep going to ER every day until they probably get tired of me and get it done. I was there on Friday they refused it.

    But how can I can go daily when I am soooo depressed and am getting scared of rejections it's like they don't believe me or something. But going daily or almost every day is the only way to get it done cuz they don't have private ones.

  7. The checking with lights annoyed him a lot. But they have to do it if a patient is trying to self harm they are to intervene. When you have a serious sleeping disorder it's extra hard.

    One day he felt really like ending it and went to the desk and told them that. He expected something to calm him down as I would but they gave him a piece of paper to fill out like why you shouldn't do it, reasons to live etc....I know they have their tactics it's been done by professionals but when they are underfunded they can't be much helpful. A friend of mine was in such a hospital in Germany and the difference is huge but still not perfect.

  8. On 11/7/2021 at 12:46 AM, semicolon said:

    Does anyone else believe that their life is meant to be a bad? im agnostic but what if reincarnation is real and in my past life i was a bad person so now in this life i am meant to suffer? if that is true i really hope this isnt a long life. 

    I also can't find the point of this life. Sometimes to the point where my therapist calls it "existential crisis".

  9. 8 hours ago, Jeshu said:

    i found that doctors in general are not helpful, it is really about finding one that can be trusted to help. i have been a psych wards many times but did everything to make sure they would discharge me as quick as possible. Some patients are kept their against their will for months.

    i found that my chronic insomnia was best helped with a low dosage of Mirtazapine, as this AD  makes people very sleepy in low dosages, and together with NAC also helps fight the depression.

    Only 7.5 mg is needed to get a good night sleep on that stuff, it works far better than sleepers and is not addictive.


    Get your brother on Mirtazapine as soon as possible, it works wonders getting people to sleep. Sleep is the biggest problem struggling against mental illness.

    Mirtazapine is a good pill for insomnia. But he tried it last year (Either 7.5 or 15 mg) and it knocked him out in a negative way. It kinda made him extremely drowsy but couldn't fall asleep. A very bad feeling. But whatever caused his inability to sleep in June 2020, be it the amphetamines he took or something else, body chemistry changes. For example, 3 months ago he couldn't even tolerate low dose of melatonin but now he can. He couldn't tolerate seroquel at all, now he can in low doses. So trying Mirtazapine even at 3mg might be a good idea. It angers me the most the fact that I am too sick myself to intensify my search for some sleep solutions for him and makes me feel guilty because when I feel a little better I get thoughts that I can do more. But when Im down then I know I can't. He is now is the "catch 22" position, another hospitalization could ruin him permanently psychologically because chances are he would and up in psych ICU mostly due to sleep deprivation, but at home he doesn't have the care he would have in a good hospital environment but unfortunately they don't have good hospitals for mental health.  The shrink told us that the gov't cut down on mental health funding a few months ago. How sad. The newly elected old prime minister promised billion of dollars for mental health care but I don't believe him.

    I heard NAC can help also OCD. I bought some long ago but he didn't dare to try it yet. But I'm sure he will have to and I hope we stumble upon something that helps. Last night he got 6 hours of sleep and even though he has non restorative sleep he felt a bit better and grateful which made me sad because for me 6 hours is nothing.

    Thanks for advice

  10. My brother told me yesterday morning around 5:30 am one patient quietly came out of his room and asked a nurse for some food because he was hungry. (That patients get no visitors at all 😞 ). The nurse yelled back at him saying quote "Why the hell are you up, get back to your room right now".

    Would that ever happen to a patient who is hospitalized in a non psych ward? If he was there for physical reason? No it wouldn't at least not in such tone. I've seen some posts related to this topic before on this forum which means many people will agree with me. But if you started this conversation with a shrink quack he would try to defend it.

    all I can say is if I were healthy enough I would join or even start an organization to fight for mental patients rights.

    There are some excellent psychiatrists we know that. Kind, caring, friendly and helpful. But many of them, including other staff do not see mental patients as equal as non-mental.

    If you saw the movie "numb" where Matthew Perry sees his shrink at a restaurant with his buddies and when Perry says Hi the doctor felt embarrassed and said to his friends "Oh it's just a patient". It is exactly so in real life. But if the patient is non mental, especially if not poor, they would behave better towards them.


  11. I know many of us have had health anxiety but I don't know how to cope with it unless I do all the tests. In the past I was a true hypochondriac but wether because of depression taking over or my depersonalization getting worse that symptom was pretty much gone.

    However, for a few years I've had GERD. In my case it is the so called "silent reflux" without the heartburn. For the last 2 - 3 years the acid has been even destroying my teeth. Last year I had 3 months long gastric/abdominal pain and after the 9th ER visit they did a scope. Only gastritis they said was relevant but did not tell me that I have, as they put, "mild chronic reflux esophagitis". I found that out 3 weeks ago. The anti acid meds never helped me or i didn't take them long enough but if I knew I have an injury to my oesophagus from acid I'd be more alert and careful.

    Anyway, 2-3 months ago my family says they think I lost a bit of weight. Since being overweight that's a good thing but I didn't notice it. I gained weight rapidly 3-4 years ago due to a med Im still on.

    3 months ago I started feeling sore throat and acid was burning my mouth. This acid in the mouth is worst at night as it wakes me often and I need to clean my mouth. Now I am on strongest anti acid med 2x daily.

    But what got my new family doctor and my ENT concerned is weight loss and bleeding when I clear my throat. I lost about 15 kilos but IDK for sure when I started losing weight. I did eat vety little over the last few months, sometimes once in 3 days because of no appetite but I never ate much. I also started a new medication over a month ago for hypothyroid and one website says that med can cause weight loss at the start upto 15% of your body weight but I doubt they are the reason.

    My ENT did a throat scope, twice, but he saw no problems. He sent me for barium swallow, it showed nothing. (But barium swallow can't show esophagitus or berrets)

    The bottom like is, due to chronic acid reflux, rapid weight loss, throat pain and tightness, tightness in the chest sometimes and finding out I have reflux esophagitis made me believe I have esophageal cancer. (Or another cancer around there). The stress over the last 3 weeks has been tremendous and if you add the other distress about my current brother's situation, I feel the only way out is the worst. Sometimes I calm down and try to think rationally saying to myself that the "S" is never an option but the fear is alive.

    An endoscopy would take that problem under control but they don't do that here now especially because I had 1 last year, had barium swallow, blood work is normal and the waiting time is long. "The only small chance is getting it through ER again if I could convince them but I gotta go there many times and it's hard due to mental stuff". There is no private clinics here and I don't have the $ to go to USA or another province to do it. (They do endoscopy easily at the ER when it's too late usually)

    But my point is fear that I might have cancer. The fear has almost turned into a belief. The 2 doctors I mentioned didn't reassure me, in fact they said the esophageatis can cause cancer. I am avoiding reading online about it because it will make me worse but even though I need to lose lot's of weight, seeing myself losing it rapidly scares me. I tried to eat more the last 2 weeks but didn't change anything much.

    Sorry about the rant but I had to get it off my chest and while I understand that the symptoms don't equal disease it is still ******* me. I know from experience that the fear of something has always caused me more harm than the thing I feared but what can I do.

  12. Well it is all free here and we like to complain that our free health care is back firing with bad health care but also long waiting times. Waiting times for a specialist can be months or years.

    The problem is my brother has gotten worse since gotten there. All other patients but 2 who don't even leave their rooms are unfortunately having problems with reality and that scares him even more even though he is trying to push the fear back and talks to them a bit. He is an extreme sociophob who wasn't leaving his house for a decade and in this hospital a few positives did happen. He was forced to interact with other people and get to  know them, mostly nurses both males and females and for him it's a huge improvement which has to continue but not in this environment or this hospital.

    The thing that has gotten worse over there is one of the most important issues and that's sleep. Sleep deprivation causes fear and fear turns into rage. I have experienced the combo myself. He is scared he might act up on his moments of rage and they would put him into the ICU where someone like him would not survive psychologically. He is an empath (another disorder) with severe mental issues and sleep deprivation. 3 days ago one of the male nurses who "clicked" with him over the time got confused about something about the pills or maybe the guy simply was not in the mood so my brother took it personally, had a suicide attack and even cried. He couldn't calm down until he made sure the other person is not mad after he asked him. Only later, usually a few hours before sleep time when his brain gets tired he can control his emotions better and says he shouldn't care what other ppl think.  Years of social phobia have led to this. But the doctors' negligence and sleep disruption is the main reason he would get even worse in there.

    My theory is that the root cause of this could be extreme fear which started over a year ago because I compare it to myself. The last few night I couldn't get much sleep at all because of stress about him and another stress problem I will post later because it it tearing me apart. But if he got better and my other problem was solved I'd feel much better and sleep better.  In his case it went too far. He still needs pills which he is not even getting in the hospital mostly because he cannot tolerate them but also because the staff, mainly the doctors aren't doing enough. But I also think he needs serious psychotherapy.

    Either way, may God help us cuz the last 4 days I've been in constant distress and he is in it for over a year. It's gotten so bad that sending a text message to a non-family is a hard task for him. But then again he can't function for days if he takes a shower when the water flow goes into his head for longer than a minute and that may not be fear-caused. He did have neurological tests. We will see what happens today first.

  13. Yes he can try that despite many arguments that staying where he is right now is much more dangerous and unsafe but like you said they can do pretty much anything. We are trying to get a social worker involved. If the doctor's have the absolute power then the system is more corrupted than I had thought. If there was someone neutral to judge I believe they would side with my brother with no doubt but they all tend to believe doctors more than patients.

    In this case the core issue is sleep so maybe the quack won't make any fuss and my brother got admitted voluntarily even though I called the same quack to arrange it for him but I learned long ago never to trust them especially physicians and shrinks IME so I'll see what the liar has to say tomorrow.

  14. My brother's been there since 10 days ago and they are not helping. I made a post about him before. His main problem is sleep including chronic sleep deprivation. But instead of making sure he sleeps well, they put him in a noisy room. Some heater and cooler 2 in 1 is making such a noise that it made ME dizzy and angry during the 2 hour visit.

    The "doctor" who was "seeing" him for 6 months over the phone has put himself in charge and told all other "MDS Bible" worshippers that he is not as sick as he claims. They told him literally they don't believe him his symptoms. They say it's all in his head. They don't give him nothing to calm him down when he gets his extreme distress fear and rage attack where he feels 1000% suicidal. Nothing. They don't care.

    He started getting confused in smaller but important ways again like when he wants to eat he has to think for 10 minutes does he need to take spoon, fork or knife. That's all because of sleep deprivation.

    Not only that he is being not treated there, but neglected and in a way abused. They didn't even allow him access to social worker. Therapists they don't even have.

    The shrink called me last Wednesday and said "Hey your brother is getting better". I said no he is getting worse. So we decided to meet on Monday at noon to talk.

    Also, my brother can't take this doctor when he talks. I wouldn't either. When he talks he debates and feels like he is interrogating you. Goes into philosophy etc so my brother told him that in a polite way but he didn't change.

    On Monday we will tell him to find a suitable environment for him in another hospital. If he "can't" doesn't want to then we will tell him my brother is going home. Also, we will demand another doctor/second opinion but not in that hospital because he influenced all 6 shrinks there not to take my brother serious.

    There are some positives there as well but the negatives are overwhelming. He is more than 10x more likely to commit suicide there than at home and that's a fact, all because of the reasons above.

    But I would like to ask is there anyone who is above the doctor we can complain to, not only because we need a new doctor and better environment but also he can give us a hard time to discharge him.

    There is an organization called mental health advocated but they also work for the health system and they are not above the doctors, they can only give suggestions. I wish I could have figured this earlier and help my brother but due to my own problems I couldn't.

    Imagine you go to hospital for manic depression and severe anxiety but they treat you as if you are OK or just panicked a little, no big deal, especially if you are sleep deprived.

    Sleep deprivation kills mentally and physically. This quack is supposed to be sleep specialist as well but he never cared to treat my brothers sleep apnea until we told them so now they say bring your own device. If you go sleep deprived for too long, like if you sleep 3-4 hours per night, you will eventually go mad. All people with sleep disorders especially those who don't get enough sleep must be treated with extra care whoever they are, not putting them in unhealthy environments.

    I am so upset to the point that I am thinking to kick his ass, literally. Stupid quack makes $300 000 and ruins people lives. They should kiss patients' ass for getting that kinda money for doing nothing not make it worse than it already is.

  15. On 10/25/2021 at 5:48 AM, sober4life said:

    Sure I do.  People get all kinds of thoughts about their government now.  It used to be you would only see your leaders on tv once in a blue moon and they would try to make you think they were good people.  Now all of them are on tv just about every day and they all seem to have the mentality of pirates and don't really care what people think of them.  People get those thoughts because they know they're being ruled by monsters that are capable of anything.  Like I said it's just paranoia for me.  The only thing I think they're really capable of is being funtioning alcoholics and living off of us like leaches.  They're bums that have probably just gotten where they are because they know the right people.

    I think they are just a bunch of old impotent farts who got to their position by people's votes and they got connections as you said. But when they team up with the filthy rich and start doing each other "favours" that can be dangerous for ordinary people. But I know a bunch of people who trust their gov't fully and don't like anything negative I say about them.

  16. 17 hours ago, Bbqdad said:

    You got that right. Mostly they talk. Propaganda. I don’t have a TV for 2 years now. I don’t watch news or subscribe to any media channels. I read. I read everyday and I write everyday. I just wrote a 3000 word piece called “How Willie Nelson Triggered My First Manic Episode” I will post a link on my About Section of Profile.

    I stopped watching TV and quit social media just around a year ago because of covid but other things as well. I feel more peaceful when I read something or watch a funny or family movie instead of watching news. Back in good old days they used to have an hour or 2 of news a day but now they have channels about news all day long and even non-news channels insert news now. And most people know how fake much of their news is. I hope I find your link once you post it. Always loved a good read.

  17. On 10/23/2021 at 4:15 AM, sober4life said:

     Then of course there are the paranoid days when I think the government is able to speed up and slow down time for everyone.:unsure:

    Do you get those thought that the gov't is doing that? I don't see how would that be possible but I've heard it from people who don't suffer any mental illnesses. Maybe they were not serious.

  18. I don't know is it just me and my illness but I feel that time passes extremely fast. It literally feels like it was a month ago when I went to the hospital last October for abdominal pain. Some say time seems to go faster after 40 but I think it's the lifestyle and mental illness of course. The problem is there is no real health brakes and in no time another year will pass by. Beginning of May this year I started feeling better without any drug changes but not well enough. And of course my brother's illness and covid related fears didn't let me try taking advantage to feel even better. So these few months also went by too fast. I thought my depersonalization makes time go faster but I've had the condition for decades and only the last 2-3 years went by scary fast for me.

    Anyone else feels this way? I suppose younger people (upto 35) don't have this problem. But then again I see 50 and 60 year olds who are so ambitious and they work like they are gonna live forever.

  19. On 10/21/2021 at 6:03 PM, monicott17 said:

    My SAD is already beginning. Fall has been okay here so far, even a bit on the warmer side. But the shorter days…dark by 7:00 now and will be even shorter soon with the time change are what gets me down. I also live in a place with some of the absolute worst winter weather anywhere. My area is well known for its very harsh winters and impressive snow totals (usually 100+ inches) for the season in many years.  It is a depressing place to begin with but with threat of snow at any time from about mid-October through April, even early May…it is unbearable at times. Plus, those ugly piles of snow don’t melt and just sit there in parking lots for months on end,

    Right. To me it's not much about how cold the winter can get but how long it lasts. Last year it snowed late October and entire November was sunny and warmish but the snow didn't melt. That's so depressing. and yes, sometimes it goes into May. It's horrible for people who cannot take winter.

    I didn't know that USA has long winters except Alaska. I suppose you live closer to Canada.

  20. 8 hours ago, nojoy said:

    You sounds like a good brother. Just be there for him. Has his doctor suggested he have the genetic testing to find out what drugs would be good for him?  I did it thru Genesight because I develop an intolerance to many drugs when taken long term.  The testing covers all of the drugs that are prescribed for mental health problems.  Wish I had a brother like you.

    Thank you.

    His doctor is not helpful at all. I will look up those testings if they are available here.

    Part of his PTSD is about doctors due to an ugly experience years ago. He never went to see a doctor alone and now if he has to be admitted it is to him like if you have arachnophobia and your house becomes full of spiders. Very difficult situation.

  21. On 10/16/2021 at 5:07 AM, sober4life said:

    I used to think they had a cure for everything until I was alone in this world and every time I was really in trouble and I asked people for help nobody really knew anything about anything.  If you go up to your neighbor or some random stranger on the street and say what do you think about this and they give some wild answer to your question.  That's everyone about everything.  Nobody really knows anything about anything.

    I didn't mean ordinary people. I meant those filthy rich ones and those who control drugs and research. Whatever you and I are going through, if Jeff Bezos for example went through it, he would recover sooner and easier than you and me. I don't blame them it's not their fault that I am poor. But big pharma and their puppets is in the way to people being cured from many diseases.

    There was a breaking news several years ago where Canada found cure for cancer but the FDA didn't allow to proceed.

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