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  1. Day 20 & 21 So I have hit the three week mark. I can feel a difference albeit minimal. The brain zaps are actually quite less, if I was a 10 before I am down to about a five now although they seem to worsen at night for some reason. Dizziness is still a big issue i can walk around well enough for awhile like walking the dog etc but grocery shopping and major acitivites that already raise my anxiety are even tougher now with the added dizziness. I am hoping since this is only week 3 on 300mg that these side effects will disappear. I am still very much up and down which is annoying as ****, because one moment i can feel somewhat positive or otherwise happy and just feel like crap and down the next. I started the branded Wellbutrin 3 days ago now and alot of my other side effects have disappeared of course this could be the placebo effect but I have read many places that generic just doesn't cut it sometimes. At the moment I am in a bit of daze like state so its really hard to describe exactly how i feel, so i guess as the days go by I am experiencing two steps forward and one step backwards. At least some progress is better than no progress, i just wish there was consistency in my days.
  2. Day 20 & 21 So I have hit the three week mark. I can feel a difference albeit minimal. The brain zaps are actually quite less, if I was a 10 before I am down to about a five now although they seem to worsen at night for some reason. Dizziness is still a big issue i can walk around well enough for awhile like walking the dog etc but grocery shopping and major acitivites that already raise my anxiety are even tougher now with the added dizziness. I am hoping since this is only week 3 on 300mg that these side effects will disappear. I am still very much up and down which is annoying as ****, because one moment i can feel somewhat positive or otherwise happy and just feel like crap and down the next. I started the branded Wellbutrin 3 days ago now and alot of my other side effects have disappeared of course this could be the placebo effect but I have read many places that generic just doesn't cut it sometimes. At the moment I am in a bit of daze like state so its really hard to describe exactly how i feel, so i guess as the days go by I am experiencing two steps forward and one step backwards. At least some progress is better than no progress, i just wish there was consistency in my days.
  3. Yea ironically enough desperados, it is hard getting to sleep but once i'm asleep im out for a good 8 hours without interruptions. Thanks for the support virvellian! Day 20 & 21 So I have hit the three week mark. I can feel a difference albeit minimal. The brain zaps are actually quite less, if I was a 10 before I am down to about a five now although they seem to worsen at night for some reason. Dizziness is still a big issue i can walk around well enough for awhile like walking the dog etc but grocery shopping and major acitivites that already raise my anxiety are even tougher now with the added dizziness. I am hoping since this is only week 3 on 300mg that these side effects will disappear. I am still very much up and down which is annoying as ****, because one moment i can feel somewhat positive or otherwise happy and just feel like crap and down the next. I started the branded Wellbutrin 3 days ago now and alot of my other side effects have disappeared of course this could be the placebo effect but I have read many places that generic just doesn't cut it sometimes. At the moment I am in a bit of daze like state so its really hard to describe exactly how i feel, so i guess as the days go by I am experiencing two steps forward and one step backwards. At least some progress is better than no progress, i just wish there was consistency in my days.
  4. Day 18 and 19 The change to wellbutrin xl continues to have its many bumps. However it acutally seems like the brain zaps are decreasing(albeit very little) in severity. Yesterday was an ok day. I actually got through most of the day without any zaps or major dizziness. But at about 5 o clock everything took a turn for the worse, every symptom continued to return. I can't decide whether this is progression or regression. Anyways I went to see my p-doc and he suggested that I do not take a bit of my old ssri citalopram at this point and assured me that the brain zaps would slowly go away(this is however going on week three of having them). Instead of taking 150mg a day he switched me to 300mg once a day when i wake up in the morning. He thought this might help my energy levels remain constant. He also assured me that after its full course of 6-8 weeks that the wellbutrin xl would level me out as well. We all know how full of ###### pdocs can be and we have to make our own decision, but i figure since i'm this far in what is the point in turning back now. I have also after some research decided to switch from generic wellbutrin(mylan is the drug company that made the ones i have been taking) to branded wellbutrin XL. I have not only read articles about the fact that branded can make a huge difference for some people vs generic but I have had people first hand tell me that it worked for them. I figured why not. I do not have any real evidence that there is a difference, if you type this into google though there are several "reports" and forums that talk about the benefits of branded wellbutrin xl. Anyway that is where I am at, continuing to push forward. Symptoms are still there and are not as bad during the day as they once were i guess by the days vary and the symptoms seem to always be there in the evening. Hopefully i can report some more improvement, because as I feel it I maybe progressed from a 1 to a 2, while its something, its a long way to go.
  5. Thanks Rahul. I have been limiting my K to the prescribed .5 twice daily. Until I can fully adjust i will be following your advice and fighting my doctor on staying this course until I can rid myself of the brain zaps and dizziness associated with my ssri discontinuation. Hopefully this improves over the next few weeks, ugh the wait to see if these things work is painful. Day 18 and 19 The change to wellbutrin xl continues to have its many bumps. However it acutally seems like the brain zaps are decreasing(albeit very little) in severity. Yesterday was an ok day. I actually got through most of the day without any zaps or major dizziness. But at about 5 o clock everything took a turn for the worse, every symptom continued to return. I can't decide whether this is progression or regression. Anyways I went to see my p-doc and he suggested that I do not take a bit of my old ssri citalopram at this point and assured me that the brain zaps would slowly go away(this is however going on week three of having them). Instead of taking 150mg a day he switched me to 300mg once a day when i wake up in the morning. He thought this might help my energy levels remain constant. He also assured me that after its full course of 6-8 weeks that the wellbutrin xl would level me out as well. We all know how full of ###### pdocs can be and we have to make our own decision, but i figure since i'm this far in what is the point in turning back now. I have also after some research decided to switch from generic wellbutrin(mylan is the drug company that made the ones i have been taking) to branded wellbutrin XL. I have not only read articles about the fact that branded can make a huge difference for some people vs generic but I have had people first hand tell me that it worked for them. I figured why not. I do not have any real evidence that there is a difference, if you type this into google though there are several "reports" and forums that talk about the benefits of branded wellbutrin xl. Anyway that is where I am at, continuing to push forward. Symptoms are still there and are not as bad during the day as they once were i guess by the days vary and the symptoms seem to always be there in the evening. Hopefully i can report some more improvement, because as I feel it I maybe progressed from a 1 to a 2, while its something, its a long way to go.
  6. Day 18 and 19 The change to wellbutrin xl continues to have its many bumps. However it acutally seems like the brain zaps are decreasing(albeit very little) in severity. Yesterday was an ok day. I actually got through most of the day without any zaps or major dizziness. But at about 5 o clock everything took a turn for the worse, every symptom continued to return. I can't decide whether this is progression or regression. Anyways I went to see my p-doc and he suggested that I do not take a bit of my old ssri citalopram at this point and assured me that the brain zaps would slowly go away(this is however going on week three of having them). Instead of taking 150mg a day he switched me to 300mg once a day when i wake up in the morning. He thought this might help my energy levels remain constant. He also assured me that after its full course of 6-8 weeks that the wellbutrin xl would level me out as well. We all know how full of pdocs can be and we have to make our own decision, but i figure since i'm this far in what is the point in turning back now. I have also after some research decided to switch from generic wellbutrin(mylan is the drug company that made the ones i have been taking) to branded wellbutrin XL. I have not only read articles about the fact that branded can make a huge difference for some people vs generic but I have had people first hand tell me that it worked for them. I figured why not. I do not have any real evidence that there is a difference, if you type this into google though there are several "reports" and forums that talk about the benefits of branded wellbutrin xl. Anyway that is where I am at, continuing to push forward. Symptoms are still there and are not as bad during the day as they once were i guess by the days vary and the symptoms seem to always be there in the evening. Hopefully i can report some more improvement, because as I feel it I maybe progressed from a 1 to a 2, while its something, its a long way to go.
  7. Day 16 and 17 Not much to report as far as differences in symptoms. Since I have been put back on the klonopin for now to help with the celexa to wellbutrin xl taper, many symptoms have gone away. However many still remain. Mood wise it is hard to describe how I feel, I do not feel happy but i do not feel unhappy either. Irritability is pretty high though, i find if there is any sort of stress or a bad situation I lose it pretty easily. This was never an issue on the citalopram. One positive I can say about the switch so far is my libido is through the roof, those stories you read about wellbutrin being the only antidepressant to not effect sex drive are true. SInce they work on different receptors I have a much higher sex drive, however it is a little harder to perform since I am pretty much constantly dizzy. I Hope this side effect goes away soon, i can't take much more of it. The zaps are still here unfortunately just entering week three, they have decreased in severity since i first got them but they are still very noticeable and do effect me greatly still. Hopefully the return of football season can distract some of these symptoms. Since I went on to this taper I have steered clear from major social gatherings. i plan to give it another week and see how I am feeling and perhaps try to watch football with the boys, so I will let everyone know how my anxiety fairs in a common situation that was not a huge deal for me before the switch and taper. Have a good weekend everyone.
  8. **** this change from SSRI to different classes of drugs sucks, will the brain zaps and the dizziness ever ****ing stop?
  9. I agree Rahul I believe it was a colossal mistake for the doctor to make in doing both of these switches at once. I had great success with clonazepam at .5 and 1mg dosages daily for 14 years. It only now seems like I built up a bit of a tolerance. The only reason I really agreed to taper off K is because of pressure from my GP, as he said that soon he would no longer prescribe me K on a regular basis. So i figured I had two options either reduce on a taper schedule or find another GP. Reluctantly I am going the route of the taper since I do not wanna end up taking a very high dose eventually to feel the same effects. To be perfectly hoenst though if I find the taper way to difficult to do and carry on every day life then I may just find another GP who will give them to me. As for saying adding a low dosage of saying 5 or 10mg of citalopram back into my rotation to eliminate brain zaps, do you have any experience with this at all? I have also read about it, but fear doing this will just temporarily make it go away only to return once im completely off of citalopram again anyway. Appreciate the input Rahul, all support and suggestions are greatly appreciated Day 16 and 17 Not much to report as far as differences in symptoms. Since I have been put back on the klonopin for now to help with the celexa to wellbutrin xl taper, many symptoms have gone away. However many still remain. Mood wise it is hard to describe how I feel, I do not feel happy but i do not feel unhappy either. Irritability is pretty high though, i find if there is any sort of stress or a bad situation I lose it pretty easily. This was never an issue on the citalopram. One positive I can say about the switch so far is my libido is through the roof, those stories you read about wellbutrin being the only antidepressant to not effect sex drive are true. SInce they work on different receptors I have a much higher sex drive, however it is a little harder to perform since I am pretty much constantly dizzy. I Hope this side effect goes away soon, i can't take much more of it. The zaps are still here unfortunately just entering week three, they have decreased in severity since i first got them but they are still very noticeable and do effect me greatly still. Hopefully the return of football season can distract some of these symptoms. Since I went on to this taper I have steered clear from major social gatherings. i plan to give it another week and see how I am feeling and perhaps try to watch football with the boys, so I will let everyone know how my anxiety fairs in a common situation that was not a huge deal for me before the switch and taper. Have a good weekend everyone.
  10. Day 16 and 17 Not much to report as far as differences in symptoms. Since I have been put back on the klonopin for now to help with the celexa to wellbutrin xl taper, many symptoms have gone away. However many still remain. Mood wise it is hard to describe how I feel, I do not feel happy but i do not feel unhappy either. Irritability is pretty high though, i find if there is any sort of stress or a bad situation I lose it pretty easily. This was never an issue on the citalopram. One positive I can say about the switch so far is my libido is through the roof, those stories you read about wellbutrin being the only antidepressant to not effect sex drive are true. SInce they work on different receptors I have a much higher sex drive, however it is a little harder to perform since I am pretty much constantly dizzy. I Hope this side effect goes away soon, i can't take much more of it. The zaps are still here unfortunately just entering week three, they have decreased in severity since i first got them but they are still very noticeable and do effect me greatly still. Hopefully the return of football season can distract some of these symptoms. Since I went on to this taper I have steered clear from major social gatherings. i plan to give it another week and see how I am feeling and perhaps try to watch football with the boys, so I will let everyone know how my anxiety fairs in a common situation that was not a huge deal for me before the switch and taper. Have a good weekend everyone.
  11. Day 15 These brain zaps are ridiculous. I can barely handle getting up due to the dizziness they cause. Citalopram to other classes like Wellbutrin needed to be weened very slowly to avoid these side effects. Now that I no longer have to deal with the anxiety as much due to the klonopin it is still causing me high levels of anxiety that these zaps and dizziness are making it impossible to function unless im lying or sitting down. I had a period where they were less last night but they have since returned with a vengeance. As far as the other side effects, I am still insanely irritable but i think it is because my frustration over my main problem of dizziness and zaps. I read that they are very common when withdrawing from SSRI's, I hope the severity decreases cause this is complete hell.
  12. Day 15 These brain zaps are ridiculous. I can barely handle getting up due to the dizziness they cause. Citalopram to other classes like Wellbutrin needed to be weened very slowly to avoid these side effects. Now that I no longer have to deal with the anxiety as much due to the klonopin it is still causing me high levels of anxiety that these zaps and dizziness are making it impossible to function unless im lying or sitting down. I had a period where they were less last night but they have since returned with a vengeance. As far as the other side effects, I am still insanely irritable but i think it is because my frustration over my main problem of dizziness and zaps. I read that they are very common when withdrawing from SSRI's, I hope the severity decreases cause this is complete hell. Thanks birch that is very appreciated.
  13. Day 15 These brain zaps are ridiculous. I can barely handle getting up due to the dizziness they cause. Citalopram to other classes like Wellbutrin needed to be weened very slowly to avoid these side effects. Now that I no longer have to deal with the anxiety as much due to the klonopin it is still causing me high levels of anxiety that these zaps and dizziness are making it impossible to function unless im lying or sitting down. I had a period where they were less last night but they have since returned with a vengeance. As far as the other side effects, I am still insanely irritable but i think it is because my frustration over my main problem of dizziness and zaps. I read that they are very common when withdrawing from SSRI's, I hope the severity decreases cause this is complete hell.
  14. I have heard so many conflicting stories about this, I was hoping to maybe clear the air a bit. Alot of people I have talked to claim there is no direct difference between the two, which would make sense. However there have been many people that say they would never use generic wellbutrin XL and only used the branded Wellbutrin as it works way better for them. Any experiences or facts to back this up would be much appreciated. Again I know it depends on the individual but what has everyone's experience been on this subject?
  15. Day 14 So yesterday I had enough of my symptoms and managed to get in and see my GP. I told him that I had received many professional opinions as well as opinions from others who have gone through tapering that his approach seemed kind of drastic. He double checked a few things and asked me if I was on 1mg before of klonopin and I said yes and belived this taper procedure was inapproriate. I am not sure how many of you have read or are aware of the Ashton manual but this is essentially a guide that a lot of doctors use loosely to withdraw patients from benzos. I looked at my dosage(the only chart was the 1.5mg daily chart) and compared it to this chart roughly. Anyway this is what I believe I should have been doing for this taper to make it much less difficult. After talking to me and reviewing his notes my GP realized that he had thought that i was on .25mg twice a day orginally rather than .5 twice a day. This made me furious as he had made a mistake that cost me tons of unneeded stress and struggling that could have been less difficult. Long story short, I was angry but he understood that he made a mistake and renewed my script for another month. So basically I am back up to 1mg where i started int he first place and will be following the Ashton manual after this month to begin a proper taper. Once again I fall back on the fact that nobody knows you better than yourself. This is a ridicoulus mistake, and i will have to begin my taper again, albeit properly this time. Doctors make mistakes and it is frustratingly hard to deal with when you are going through this. In general you somewhat have to trust your GP, but be well informed. However it is difficult to completely monitor and understand what they are doing when you are in the state I was in. So today I am back to 1mg of klonopin today. I feel more or less back to "normal" although I am very tired because of the big increase that my body was not use to having these past couple weeks. Once I begin my taper from klonopin I will update that weekly for those interested as the Ashton Manual goes through every week with a different approach. I am not sure if i can link this resource but you can google professor ashtons manual and it should take you to her official site. So now that is cleared up, i'll focus a little more on my citalopram to wellbutrin switch. This switchover has not been easy as they are different classes of drugs. Citalopram working on serotonin levels while Wellburtin works on Neuro and dopemine neuro-transmitters. The brain zaps have continued and it feels as though they will never stop, this is very difficult to go through, especially with the other mistakes that were made. I plan to give the Wellbutrin the chance it needs(6 weeks or so) to work effectively. Once again the doctor overlooked this though, I should have been slowly tapered off of citalopram on to wellbutrin as to avoid brain zaps and other unpleasant side effects. At least now with the klonopin I can carry on with my day even though the other side effects are still there the crippling anxiety is much less. I will keep doing daily updates until I hit day 30 then will be doing weekly updates. Please continue to post feedback and suggestions, they are appreciated and much needed.
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