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May 17 2006, 08:53 AM
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Hello
I am new to this forum and seeking advice regarding zyban's effects for women suffering from depression. My sister has been on the usual SSRI's for a couple of years since the death of our mother and during that time she has relapsed a few times to the point where she has had to be committed. I was thinking about giving her some zyban since her doctors seem useless/clueless. Anyone got any recommendations on it for a 26 yr old female with a history of bi-polar and OCD behaviour?
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May 17 2006, 01:40 PM
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I'm taling Wellbutrin SR 100mg in combination with Celexa 30mg. I just started taking the WB today.
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May 18 2006, 02:15 PM
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QUOTE(lizard @ May 18 2006, 06:04 AM)  mikeatwood, it's unwise to "prescribe" for your sister by yourself. Please find another doc if you don't have confidence in her current ones. It's really tricky to work with ADs and bipolar without a mood stabilizer. She should be under a doctor's care. I trusted docs with my mother and that ended up with her commiting suicide. even now they refuse to listen (different set of docs) to the people who know her best hence my thoughts about getting her to read up and make a judgement with the people who know her best (her family) about what steps to take. There is no guarantee I will get her anything but I am looking at options. I saw zyban was going for cheap at that site and I had been thinkign about it before in consultation with her, hence my line of thought...
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May 19 2006, 07:29 AM
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Sorry to hear about your mother...I know that must've been (and still is) hard to deal with...
Maybe you or your sis could recommend wellbutrin to your doctor. Most doctors are open to suggestions. Sometimes you have to take a bit of the work into your own hands, unfortunately. I had one pdoc, before the one I am seeing now, and I began to get the feeling that she was just running down her list of ADs in alphabetical order or something like that. I didn't feel like switching doctors, so what I did instead was do a lot of research on my own, and try to find meds that I thought would meet my own personal needs. Then I would tell her what I found and that I Wanted to try this or that, and she would prescribe it. This I think is better than getting meds on your own, because even if your doctor didn't come up with the idea for you (or your sister) to take it, he/she can still monitor your progress, side effects, etc, and may be able to help with getting the right dosage.
So I'd recommend mentioning WB to your doc and seeing how he/she takes it before doing anything on your own. In fact, I would strongly advice against taking meds without doctors supervision. There are always some interactions, side effects, etc. that we may not know about.
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Jun 9 2006, 12:41 AM
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Right now Bupropion SR 150 mg, once a day, manufacturer is Watson. I am taking it in combination with the Lexapro 10mg once a day.
Dr. started me on Wellbutrin XL 150 back in March and it put me in a manic phase. So after 4 weeks of that, went on Bupropion SR 100mg once a day. Did that for 4 weeks, went back in and am on Bupropion SR 150 mg. Still not quite right, will go in on Monday to tweak it some more. Still mild to moderately depressed.
Have been on the Lexapro since July of last year.
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Aug 16 2006, 11:46 AM
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I'm on 300 mg of WB XL... also 20 mg of Lexapro. I've been having a lot of trouble sleeping lately, not sure why... but I just went up from 150 to 300. For no real reason at all. Stupid doctor.
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Aug 31 2006, 09:18 AM
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I am taking Wellbutrin XL (on the 150's for the past week, but stepping up to the 300's tomorrow) I have heard bad things about the generic one causing nausea - somehting about it coming into your system too quickly? I haven't experienced many side effects on the XL 150's, so hopefully that will continue as I begin to take the 300's.
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Sep 21 2006, 05:24 PM
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I started generic Bupropion SR-150mg (Watson) today for I guess 14 days and then two times a day there after. I have never taken an anti depressant before in my life and hope that it will help me with my infrequent lethargic and procrastinating behavior and not to mention, strange tears that come to me at the most inappropriate times.
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Sep 24 2006, 06:59 PM
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I'm on WB XL 150 mg. I'm not sure yet if I"ll need to go up. I have basically no reaction to it at all yet (good or bad) and its been 11 days. I'll keep you updated. It's the only medication I take. And the first time I've ever been on antidepressants. I really appreciate reading everybody's posts. Thank you, Marga
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Sep 25 2006, 09:59 AM
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Wellbutrin XL 300mg x 1/day, along with Straterra 40mg x 2/day and now with Cymbalta 60mg x 1/day.
The WB XL combined with the Straterra was like a wonder combo for me for 3+ years, especially after both my parents died in 2003 after long illnesses and I went into a nose dive. The Straterra is in the mix for my ADD. Only problem at first was a few mild side effects, probably from the Straterra, including hot flashes (yes, hot flashes!) and sweats and some difficulty with going potty (#2 -- drink LOTS of water with Straterra). Eventually, the side effects pretty much went away.
However, the current severe depressive bout is in it's 4th week and not showing any signs of letting up, even with the inclusion of Cymbalta. In a chat last night, one person suggested that age may be a factor in the quality of one's response to meds. I am going on 54.
In fact, if there is not already a discussion of meds and age in here somewhere, I believe I shall start one.
Stay tuned.
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Oct 12 2006, 08:27 AM
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I was on 150 XL for a month, then switched to 300s about a week ago. Honestly, neither dose has helped at all so far. I'm wondering if I should add an SSRI (I've heard a lot of people combine it with Cymbalta?) to it. I've heard that Wellbutrin doesn't work for some people, but when they add a low dosage of an SSRI with it, it's a great combo, and the Wellbutrin actually counteracts the nasty side effects of the SSRI??
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Oct 17 2006, 05:28 PM
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HELP PLZ! after 2 yrs on effexor w/o much response except increased depression finally switched to cymbalta tho my GP said they were basicaly the same. i had a quick response to cymbalta.finally i felt a miniscule of hope when i actually could get off the bed. didnt notice s/e until i started gaining wt very quickly w/o any appetite? very weird. after 11 lbs or so i could see where this was goin so switched to wellbutrin and now i feel so sick...dont know if i can handle waiting it out but i want it to work so badly. s/e in just 3 days all good feelings from cymbalta gone replaced by NAUSEA! antsy even w/xanax, angry and irritable, weird sounds in my head, horrible SWEATING! non stop , not sleeping but thats not new. id say the hot flushing/sweats and nausea are the worst...feels kind of like i have the flu. r these things normal....was never very bothered with s/e on the ssri's so was unprepared for this i want to quit and make these go away but then what. gain 50 lbs on cymbalta? sittin at my laptop now im clammy and sweat is runnin down my face and the a/c is on!!! appreciate any imput. kat
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Oct 17 2006, 05:39 PM
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I'm taking Wellbutrin XL, 300 mg. a day. It has certainly helped the weepiness. I do have a slight humming in my ears, though. I do get very sweaty when stressed--much more than in the past. Oh well, what can ya do?
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Oct 17 2006, 07:51 PM
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QUOTE(Aerial @ Oct 17 2006, 05:39 PM)  I'm taking Wellbutrin XL, 300 mg. a day. It has certainly helped the weepiness. I do have a slight humming in my ears, though. I do get very sweaty when stressed--much more than in the past. Oh well, what can ya do? no kiddin..what can ya do? if only someone could tell us by some kind of test which one will work for us, how much to take and how long to hold out for improvement!! wouldnt that be the coolest  this sound in my head is so bizarre...not a ringing in my ears just a weird sound in my head every few seconds. whats next? voices? thats what has always scared me about messin with yr brain chemistry. but when i looked at my children and felt nothing for them i knew i was in bad bad shape. major disassociation!! cant function. cant work. just sit and stare at a wall. knew a change had to be made but man these s/e and the sweating is sooooo attractive and i live in humid alabama  just dont know if this is normal stuff, how long it lasts etc?
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Oct 17 2006, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE(tenor42 @ Nov 24 2004, 12:19 AM)  Question: Why are you switching from Sr to Xl? I don't understand...the whole XL thing (i would say imho but I really think it's a fact) is a marketing ploy plain and simple. :ears: ?? Use em at this moment. You see Buproprion (Wellbutrin) is actually not a very new drug. They had some intital problems in the first clinical trials with the seziure thing (there is a really interesting few articles out there on the internet by the Dr who ran the original and subsequent trials on the drug that spells it all out). Anyway, the decided to market it at a lower does then orginally planned because one study suggested that a small percentage of people were more likelt to have a seziure at the more effective theraputic dose of 400 mg so usually people hold off at 300 or 350 mg. THen the orginal patent expired which means generics were made so they came out with the SR for with a new patent for that and could ride THAT cash cow for a while (the main benefit for the patient is taking fewer pills...I know I'd rather pay $10 a month rather then $40 05 $50 and simply take two pill a day. Well guess what the SR patent rna out so THAT one is made generically and is now cheap...so those geniuses at the drug company thought HMMM how can we continue to suck as much of the life blood from the poor saps...."hey let's make a NEW version that lasts even LONGER and call it XL so the take one pill a day or one everyother day or whatever it is....man these greedy f- barstewards burn me up.....  .....how mcu money is enough> How many  times does a company need to take advantage of unwell people to make more and more money on essentially the exact same product that is not helping anyone any more then it was before and simply making them think they are geting some great cutting edge product when they are getting the same damned thing? Don't fall for their scam.....so take four pills a day instead of one save money and get the same benefit....and go to a feel good movie with the money you save.....  Just open up those eyes and ears and don't let those greedy scumbag mo-fo's take advatage :rasp: anymore...... Power to the people (espescially we gifted freaks  tenor42
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Oct 17 2006, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE(blondekat @ Oct 17 2006, 07:57 PM)  QUOTE(tenor42 @ Nov 24 2004, 12:19 AM)  Question: Why are you switching from Sr to Xl? I don't understand...the whole XL thing (i would say imho but I really think it's a fact) is a marketing ploy plain and simple. :ears: ?? Use em at this moment. You see Buproprion (Wellbutrin) is actually not a very new drug. They had some intital problems in the first clinical trials with the seziure thing (there is a really interesting few articles out there on the internet by the Dr who ran the original and subsequent trials on the drug that spells it all out). Anyway, the decided to market it at a lower does then orginally planned because one study suggested that a small percentage of people were more likelt to have a seziure at the more effective theraputic dose of 400 mg so usually people hold off at 300 or 350 mg. THen the orginal patent expired which means generics were made so they came out with the SR for with a new patent for that and could ride THAT cash cow for a while (the main benefit for the patient is taking fewer pills...I know I'd rather pay $10 a month rather then $40 05 $50 and simply take two pill a day. Well guess what the SR patent rna out so THAT one is made generically and is now cheap...so those geniuses at the drug company thought HMMM how can we continue to suck as much of the life blood from the poor saps...."hey let's make a NEW version that lasts even LONGER and call it XL so the take one pill a day or one everyother day or whatever it is....man these greedy f- barstewards burn me up.....  .....how mcu money is enough> How many  times does a company need to take advantage of unwell people to make more and more money on essentially the exact same product that is not helping anyone any more then it was before and simply making them think they are geting some great cutting edge product when they are getting the same damned thing? Don't fall for their scam.....so take four pills a day instead of one save money and get the same benefit....and go to a feel good movie with the money you save.....  Just open up those eyes and ears and don't let those greedy scumbag mo-fo's take advatage :rasp: anymore...... Power to the people (espescially we gifted freaks  tenor42 boy i agree with u 100% and the insurance companys are no better. mine makes the co pays double or triple for most of the ADs saying they arent on such and such a list!! i know i am grateful i have ins tho cuz dont know how those w/o it can pay at all! too bad we cant save al our half used bottles of things that didnt work and donate them to someone it does work for. same as all the folks making $$ off chemo drugs
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Nov 7 2006, 12:14 PM
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WB XL dosage is 150mg per day but nothing seems to be happening so far, in 2-3 weeks I'll be asking for higher dosage.
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Nov 10 2006, 03:16 PM
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I think I may be doing this posting thing all wrong. Anyways I was taking 150mg of wellbutrin and just start 300 mg today it made me extrememly tired. It also may be because I had blood taken . Not sure but I hope this stuff starts to work soon its only been a week.
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Nov 12 2006, 01:57 PM
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I was on the Wellbutrin XL 300 mg. The last time I took that was a year and a half ago. The drug itself is wonderful. I stopped smoking some with the XL. My mood swings were better and so was my depression. It did nothing for my anxiety. I hated XL because I was profusely sweating like a beast. I would sweat out my sheets and everything. It was awful
Now I am on Bupropion SR by wilson 150 mg twice a day = 300 mg. I have not had any hot flashes. I am doing better with the SR than I was with the XL. My doc told me that SR may be better for smoking because you are taking it in 2 doses instead of one, which may wear off faster. Mood swiings are not bad, still a little depressed at times and anxiety is still present. Been on this prescribed by my GP. I am going to see the psych in a couple of weeks so that he can tweak the meds.
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Nov 12 2006, 09:09 PM
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Have any of you noticed a difference between taking two of 150 mg XL vs. one 300 mg XL? I feel that it works different, for some reason taking two 150 mg XL feel different. Also, has done nothing with my weight!
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QUOTE(kp8518 @ Nov 12 2006, 08:09 PM)  Have any of you noticed a difference between taking two of 150 mg XL vs. one 300 mg XL? I feel that it works different, for some reason taking two 150 mg XL feel different. Also, has done nothing with my weight!
K Do you take the 2 150s together?
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Dec 12 2006, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE(kp8518 @ Nov 12 2006, 06:09 PM)  Have any of you noticed a difference between taking two of 150 mg XL vs. one 300 mg XL? I feel that it works different, for some reason taking two 150 mg XL feel different. Also, has done nothing with my weight!
K No weight difference for me either after 1 month and I am trying to get rid of the Lexapro 20 pound weight gain! I was just fine w/ my weight where it was, same weight for many years, give or take a pound, 'til Lex! Never had a tummy til now and not happy. Living on egg whites, 100cal protien drinks & salad for so long due to being on LEXAPRO. Can't believe it but feel like I've gained more after 1 month on Wellbutrine XL. However that is not the main problem w/ WB...it's the unrelenting Anxiety & Irritability! Maybe the sr will be a better fit for me. Anyone have less Anxiety on the SR than the XL??? In answer to your question...I only took the 150 mg once per day, then upped to twice per day, then after a week went back to once a day and am now taking a few days break. Don't know why the 300mg pill would be any different than two 150mg pills, however I have learned with AD meds to expect the unexpected! Wonder if the Anxiety, Irritability, Terrible 'Sweats' and uncontrollable tendency to go into the "Wellbutrin Rage" is less on the WBsr??? Good Luck and I do hupe you are able to find an appropriate dose. Eve
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