Extremely upset. I just got a call my dog bite my nephew, so we have to put him to sleep. My dog has never liked him and bit him when he got off the School bus. I guess it is better now than later, he is only a little over a year old. It may be years now before I think of another dog, since my Mimi died last May and now this. You can never judge a temperment of a dog until he gets older. I feel sorry for my nephew. He bit him on the arm. My husband is taking him to the clinic to be checked out. Pray for him!

I am gonna take that xanax now!

Sorry I posted so late. I saw you on for a second and was going to PM you but decided to do a post and when I switched back to the train, you were gone. Not too many riding the train these days. Pretty hasn't posted in forever, and where is Joyce?

I think we're all still here hun, maybe just not posting quite as much.

I still check this thread every single day, multiple times a day. I'm sitting at work right now, running the control room. I HATE running the control room. I'm trapped in here all day and it really drives my nerves up quite a bit. Most days it's ok, but on a Monday is sucks. I don't want to be stuck in this room all day with no one to talk to. On top of that one of my first symptoms of anxiety is those feverish chills. Good thing this room is air conditioned. Geeze. Going to be a long 4 hours that's for sure (time for the sort to be done).

Good news is that I'm going tomorrow to put an offer on a house. It needs some basic clean up, but the seller is pretty motivated to move it and already authorized the work to be done. I'm going to put in an offer with terms and see if they accept. Hopefully they do. I'll keep you all posted. As for moving, that doesn't really mess with my anxiety. I've done it so many times now it doesn't bother me anymore. Plus I've got lots of great friends/family that will help.

Hopefully everyone has a good week. I was in a good mood earlier until I had to be stuck in here by myself all day. At least I have all of you to keep me company.

Sorry to hear you're stuck all by yourself. But I'm crossing my fingers and toes that this is the house for you. I'm beginning to think more and more about moving, even though my family has been in our current house for fourteen years. It's getting run-down and I don't know how to fix it up. On top of that we've been invaded with flies and I can't figure out where they're coming from. I HATE flies!!

Now I'm waiting for a call back from my doctor's office. Something about my latest medical tests. They said I wouldn't hear anything back if it was normal, so I called right back and the nurse isn't answering her phone or returning my calls. Not good for my nerves!! I hope she calls back soon.

Thanks Ali and Yoshimimi. I read this thread sometimes, but I never feel like I have anything to say, really. Nothing that interesting happens in my life. Or if it does, I ramble for hours on my blog.

I've been on the 100 mg dose for at least three months. Before that, I was on 50 mg for about a year and a half. When I switched doctors, she was surprised that my dose hadn't been upped yet. I don't want it to go up every couple of months, though. What happens when I reach the maximum I can take?

I'm having a terrible time. I feel as if the abyss is finally consuming me. I think it's more of a cognitive than a chemical thing, though. I don't know if anything can help. What you said about meds making us worse before we get better reminds me of a thought I had today, something I wrote in my blog: "In order to get better, you have to get worse. Like when you have strep throat and take an antibiotic. Initially, you feel worse than you did before you filled the prescription. But eventually you get well." At least that's what I tell myself. I need to get through this abyss somehow. How's that for shameless self-promotion?

Yoshimimi, I hope your nephew is okay. And have a good week, everyone!

This post has been edited by AngelOfTheMoor: Oct 5 2009, 10:55 PM

I am considering getting my Doc to change me from Fluoxetine (generic Prozac) to generic Zoloft, mostly because Zoloft is the only SSRI that does not have flouride in it. Flouride is a poison - I am glad Zoloft is an option.

One question though... is generic Zoloft just as cheap as Fluoxetine? Fluoxetine is $4 for 30 capsules here.

Hey my zoloft friends!

Its been quite a tough time lately. I am sooooo stressed out. Getting ready to leave on thursday, making sure I got everything. I went shopping the whole D*** week-end and I dont like shopping that much! I got something for the show but I hate what I got so I am going back tomorrow to get a refund and get something I actually will be comfortable with. What was I thinking?!

But my WORST fear is the airplane. As the day approach I cant stop being totally stressed out. To say I am afraid is an understatement. I am terrorized!
It really pi**es me off cause it takes away the fun of going to see David.

I am fine with the effexor though. Just need more klonopin right now cause of my fear of the plane. I wonder how much I will need on thursday?!

Love u all!

Joyce

Joyce,
I am 35 and never flown. I am scared to death! I wanted to take a short flight to Houston or Florida just to try it out, but I still haven't made myself do it! My mom flew for the first time at 52 and likes it now. She is flying home Sunday from California to help out my brother with is divorce issues. I will pray for you and a safe flight! I didn't know you took Effexor too. Did you just start?

Take care and take a deep breath and enjoy the concert!

((((Thanks Yoshi))))

Please, pray for me on thursday! lol
Maybe I'll be fine too. I dont know but I am taking my klonopin, 1mg a day now and it already feels better. Still stressed but its more bearable. On thursday I intend to take 2mgs. I aint taking any chances.

Yeah I take effexor now and doing great! Just a bit of sinuses problems but I can handle it easier than feeling like i'm suffocating! And mentally i'm much better.

But like I said before, even if I'm on effexor now, I just love u guys so i'm not getting off the train.


I wished I had a laptot so I could bring it on the plane and talk to you guys while on it!


Joyce

Yoshi, who told you that you HAVE to put him down? Or are you thinking this is your only choice. Our dog bit the neighbor kid's behind when he came over to play and we felt really bad, but because the dog was in our yard when it happened, they quarantined the little stinker (the dog, not the kid) for a week, then we got him back. It wasn't until the neighbor's dog snuck into the yard and our dog bit him that we realized he was too territorial of the back yard and we surrendered him to animal control. (mostly, it was just to keep peace with the neighbors). Our autistic kids were devastated. If I had had my wits about me, I would have taken him to the no-**** shelter here in town. At least he could have been adopted by someone with a more secure back yard.


I'm really sorry you're having to go through this. This particular doggy incident was about a year before my big "fall-apart", but it doesn't make it any easier.

Yes, it should be. You can look at $4 formularies online. Look under sertraline.

Well I put in an offer on the house today. We'll see how things go. I really hope things go well and I get it. I put in a lower offer with 6% seller concessions so they may do a counter offer. If they do though I'm ok with that. I'm prepared to spend a little more to get the house anyway because it was originally listed over $100k and now it's listed at $85k. If I can get it for anything less then that I'll consider it a good buy.

The house needs some work, but it's ok. It'll help to take my mind off things. I do much better when I stay busy so I won't mind doing the work. It just sucks that we will be moving in the winter. I know it's going to be cold and that sucks. Other then that, I'm ready to make it happen. I'll be doing lots of painting, refinishing some floors, and probably some drywall and insulating for the garage.

Me and my wife are both really excited about the house. She is already talking to my mom about shopping for window treatments, paint, and whatever other things they can come up with.

I'm tired today. Had to be up at 10:30am and that's really quite early for me. It'll be a long day at work, but I can get through it and get to bed earlier tonight to make up on sleep.

Actually, I think it's $10 for 30 capsules of generic Zoloft. At least that's what I pay here in the States for it.

Flying isn't so bad. It's the airports that are. I've flown only a few times, yet I've had my baggage lost twice! (Luckily, it was found again in both cases.) It seems that some complication always happens at some point during my round trip. I once landed in the middle of stormy and tornadic weather in the middle of the night. That was fun. I enjoy being on the plane, even the small planes everyone is so scared of. It's ironic, really. I used to be deathly afraid of flying.

What is wrong with the posts? It doesn't have them listed.



This time it was our fault. He was at our father in laws when our nephew got off the bus and charged him and bit him.
The first time we were moving due to a flood coming the next day. We were stressed and the dog was stressed. My brother in law brought all his kids back to my house while all of this was going on. I was inside cooking and my son was inside crying to go out, but it was night and the mosiquitos were out and I wouldn't let him. My nephew came running up the stairs and slung the back door open and ran in. My dog was behind him when he came in and I guess he saw my son crying and my nephew beside him and bit my nephew protecting my son. From that point on the bad kids weren't allowed at my house. Which, believe me I have enjoyed this time, because like I said they are bad, bad. Our whole small town knows of and about these kids. They have a name. Plus, I don't want my son picking up their bad habits. But, Deeds has hated him since then. Deed's was up at my father in laws with my husband and son when our nephew got off the bus and charged him and bit him. Again, he didn't break the skin but bruised him. I was mad at my husband that he didn't have him at home in the house or in his outside kennel. It was our fault the second time. The family is mad and said what if he attacks your son. I love the dog and so does my husband, but I don't trust any dog 100%. I know if we end up getting another dog or another breed, I am sure it will not like the nephew either. When you don't teach a child how to act around a dog then it is going to keep happening. I took my son by a friends house last week that had two dogs. Now, he is 3 and let the dogs approach him and put out his hand slow. I realize there are some dogs that are going to attack anyway, but some I think would not if you are taught correctly. I am torn and we don't know what to do. I emailed the breeder and asked if she would take him back. His breeder has had twenty some westminster sharpei. He comes from a good line and is a show dog. I want someone to love and spoil him like us, but not around children, even though he is good around mine.

At least my brother in law didn't shoot him. He said he couldn't because he was afraid of me. I can be a little mean! LOL

I dont want to judge about this but I am upset when I see things like this happening. If its your dog first time he bites and if has never done it before than I would fight to keep him. What is wrong with this world? Animals arent just disposable because they arent perfect.

I dont know if you watch 'the dog whisperer' but he is HIGHLY recommended. There is a reason your dog had bite the kid and it might not even be the dog's fault.

Its so sad to see that animals can just be get rid of like that.

Sorry, I am not mad at you just at society for how they treat animals!

Joyce

Joyce,
I LOVE Caesar Milan. We watch him all the time. I think I have seen every episode! I looked at Ceasars website today. I wanted to write him and beg him to come. I was gonna to say I would pay the flight! He is sooo gifted! I bet he would bring the nephew around the dog and see the interaction between the too. I know he was mean to him, but I don't know how to correct it. This isn't the first time the "bad" kids have been biten. My husband's Uncle has 3 jack russells and they have bitten the kids too. His Aunt gets irrate over the kids.


I totally agree with you, I love him. I am a dog person, so is my husband and my son. They love you unconditionally and are always there for you when you get home. I would have two or three dogs if I could, but my husband says no way, just one! I am also thinking of having him fixed next weekend after we get back from vacation. I have heard this helps alot. I know if I get another dog, it will be the same thing with the kids, they need to be rehabilitated like Caesar says!

Darcness that is an awesome deal on the house! The price is great! Too bad I am so far away. I love to paint, but my husband says I do it wrong as usual. I get lectured on proper grass mowing techniques too! LOL

Go for it girl! Write to Cesar!!!!

Isnt he amazing? Even dogs that bites, he can rehabilitates and as he says 'I rehabilitate dogs. I train people' LOL
There is a reason your dog gets agressive with some kids. I bet ya those kids are agressive with him too. And depending who the parents are some are just D*** mean which is not surprising when you see how a kid treats an animal. It says alot about the parents. I would NOT give the satisfaction to those type of people to get their mean ways to win!

And if you go on Cesar show, please let me know as I would watch for sure!

And getting your dog fixed is a really great idea. I am positive it will help alot. its normal cause since he cant get some, his hormones are high and he cant satisfy himself so of course it might make him agressive. I know Cesar talked about it in one show. It was something like that. Makes alot of sense.

Please keep us posted and keep your position on this. DONT let those mean people win! Man, if I could I would have a refuge for animals. So many people dont give a D*** about them like they are a thing, not a live being with emotions! Man, I cant stand that

Joyce,
I think we found our passion here! I looked online today at work for obedience training. He is a smart dog. He sits, shakes hands, lays, rolls over, high five, and dances around for treats. It breaks my heart when I think of giving him away. He walks up to my husband and sits beside him and takes his paw and pats my husbands shoulder. He does this alot and it is soo sweet. Sometimes he walks up to us and puts his head in our laps. He walks up to me and turns his back to me to scratch his back. Maybe he is too spoiled!

Take care it is quitting time here! Yipee!

I love Cesar, too!! I watch it every week. Funny thing is, most of the misadventures we've had with our dogs have happened during the show. I wonder if it's a plot?

Speaking of our furry friends, my little Eskimo/Pomeranian mutt is acting really weird, like he's in trouble for something and looking guilty even though he's not in trouble. He is SO insecure and I don't know why. Of course, all of our dogs are rescues so they each have their own quirks. Mostly, they are escape artists, which gives the neighbor dogs bad ideas about coming over to visit--which the goats don't appreciate.

BTW, if you guys don't see me as much during the day it'be because my bosses are being rotten and warning us against "excessive" internet usage or non work related. . .blah blah blah. I swear, sometimes I don't know what they want. I get all my work done, I can't just sit at my desk and stare into space.

Sigh. . .thanks for listening.

Ali

AWESOME!!!

PISCES RULE!!!!!! We are the best!


Tink

TINK IS BACK!!!!

Sorry I have been away so long! I just got the internet yesterday and I still can't figure out how it works, so I'm writing here from work, hopefully I'll be able to figure it out when I get home!!

Good to be back~!!!

I feel special that I was missed!

Tink

Hey Everyone!!!!!

I missed you guys!!! And so happy to see I was missed too! Well the move went well thanks, Everything is moved in and still not unpacked. They are coming tomorrow to do the yearly fumigation so there is no point in unpacking everything when all your cupboards and things need to be empty. Frustrating cause I would like to have had everything unpacked and put away by now. grrrrrrr Oh well after tomorrow I can spend the weekend unpacking and finally get settled in! I started to paint and WHAT WAS I THINKING???? I hate painting!!! OMG I didn't remember it being this bad!! lol Well I'm almost done my kitchen! and I painted one wall in my room and I think it's going to stay like that for a little while lol. My bf is going to Cuba on the 17th for a week for golf and I'll be going crazy with panic that week and MAJOR seperation anxiety so I think I'll do the rest of my room then to keep my mind occupied. It's been a nice few days, my roomate isn't moving in till this Friday when her bed arrives. So I've had the place to myself. Sometimes I liked it other times it was WAY too lonely. Bf has been over a few times so it's nice. We have been getting along better lately and I'm happy!

As for my MI, not much anxiety at all over the move or these past few days. It's my first day back to work, and not happy about that AT ALL. I want to be back home- so much to do!!!! I had to bump myself back to 100mg of the Z for the past few days since I haven't been able to get to the pharmacy to get my refill. I'm actually BROKE after kinda going crazy buying things for my new place, but I think I'll go pick them up today. I don't want to be doing this 100mg too long and mess up myself.

I'm just trying to read through all the posts I missed.

Glad to be back!!!!

Missed you guys!


Tink

hey all! :)

do I sense correctly that the train is gaining speed and everybody is starting to get comfortable? :) looking at the last posts the tone is quite positive.

as for me - I'm sooo happy! I truly feel very good! I'm happy with my life and I feel close to people and enjoy things. and I have a lot of things I want to do :) that's why I'm not here every day .. but it's good that here's a place to come and see how everybody is doing and check myself in once in a while.

oh, and... I'm a dog lover too. wish I could get one - I have to talk my boyfriend into it ;) and also I'm a horse-lover as well. I've been riding horses for 10 years from my life :)

(((YOSHI)))

OMG My heart sank when I read that! I'm a major animal lover and I would be devestated!!!! Has it happend yet? My heart goes out to you.

I would have to take 10 Xanax if that happend to me.



Tink

Where the heck is everyone?!??!?!? Oh sure I come back and no one is here?!!?!? lol

anybody?

It's a lonely ride on the train this morning! I have no one to talk to............ except the ticket guy



Tink

I'm here, riding in the caboose -- how long before the zoloft starts to help? I've been on 2 weeks (first at 50 mg, now at 100) and just feel nauseated all the time, hot flashes and confused, got the shakes. I'm not crying all the time anymore, so I guess that's a plus, but it's hard to concentrate on work when I feel like hell. The first week all I thought about was ending it all, and I'm feeling more depressed than ever. Please tell me it gets better -- I can't take much more of the nausea.

Candy

Actually that ticket guy is pretty funny. You should give him a chance.

I'm glad everyone seems to be getting better. I've been really good myself the last couple days as well. I've been spending a lot of time with my wife and the anxiety I normally get worrying about her has pretty much gone down to nothing. I can now spend time with her and be truly happy, like I always have been. Really I think that's my last bit of recovery to be honest. It really feels great.

On a side note, guess who's going to be a home owner? WOOHOO!

(((Candy)))

It takes a good 6-8 weeks for most AD's to fully kick in. It sucks because many times you feel worse (from the side effects) before you feel better. When I first started on Z I was sick all day, every day. Headaches, upset stomach, insomnia, and crippling anxiety/depression. I had it all. Since you've been on it for 2 weeks you really should start seeing the side effects go away soon. I think it took roughly 2-3 weeks for them to go away for me. The insomnia stuck around, but other then that things got better from then on out.

Expect some yo-yo's with your moods. It usually starts with feeling good for maybe an hour, then the hour turns in to a few hours, then a day, then days in a row. It takes a while and it can be so frustrating going up and down all the time, but it's a good sign that the med is working. Hang in there. Take it day by day. Enjoy the times when you're feeling better, and work through the rough times the best you can. Rest when you need to, cry if you need to, and just take it easy if you can.

(((Candy)))

Sorry to tell you but it's going to get worse before it gets better. You shouldn't be going through this hell much longer so stick with it! I know the feeling of wanting to quit, but you have to at least stick with it for a few more weeks. I'm just over my 8 weeks and I'd say within the past few weeks I started to feel better. Everyone is diff though, but mine seems to be taking it's sweet @ss time!

Hang in!!!!!


Tink

lol He actually wasn't that bad. Told some corney jokes, but whatever.

YOU GOT THE HOUSE?????

CONGRATS!!!!

Tink

So I just started Z last Friday (a week ago) and I am confused by what people describe - I see that most people are saying it takes weeks for a difference. I noticed a difference the next day!!

I mean, a MAJOR difference. Like suddenly nothing stressed me out, nothing made me anxious, I was really happy, stopped yelling at people, played with my kids, sex drive picked up big time...

Over the last week it is actually starting to have less impact, I have had some anxiety, a little short temper, but still a big difference from before.

SO, what do you think about that?

(((CMATE)))

You are one of the lucky ones lol. I was like that when I was on Paxil years ago. It was great. That's what I was hoping for this time around with the Z, but no such luck. It effects everyone different I guess.

Tink

darcness,

You should be a inspirational writer. You really moved me with the last paragraph. I am being 100% sincere with this comment!
Thanks for the moving answer!

I'm here! It's funny how ridership fluctuates now and then. I'm still in the back of the passenger car, but I'm starting to slide back toward steerage again. I wish I could get my hormones in line. I know it has to have something to do with this. I've been on 100 mg (125, briefly) for about ten weeks now (guess I lost count) and I still have little waves of anxiety and depression. I do have more energy now. I actually got my laundry room cleaned out so we could "patch" the floor.

Glad to hear the success stories from you guys. Congrats on the house Darc! That's great!

Well, I gotta go for now. I'm not allowed to spend "excessive amounts of time" on the internet and my computer is right outside the bosses' office. I'll check back again later.

Darc is our Z-train Guru. He sits in his own special car on the train

Love ya Darc!

Tink

Yes, the energy is a nice change, and focus. I can finally sit and work for hours, even if it's boring work yay!

Check out the Ladies Home Journal, October 2009 edition, page 172 for those of us panic people! My mom called me to tell me about the ariticle, but my aunt had already given me the magazine. My mom then told me that she had panic attacks in her 20's and some since then. She didn't know what she had and thought each time it was just her blood pressure. She said my dad took her to the hospital in her 20's and the doctor at the er gave her a brown paper bag. Oh, how technology has advanced! So, Monday, when I go back to to the pdoc and tell him when he asked if it ran in my family, now, I can say yes and give him the article.

I went out for lunch today instead of just going to my mom's empty house and watching tv and eating. It was nice. I had no anxiety and stopped at a shoe store, taco hell (bell) and ran to the bank. I just thought I would be nervous today, but surprise, surprise!

I will be leaving tomorrow morning for the annual crusin the coast. I can't wait to see all the antique cars! I haven't decided whether or not to bring my laptop or not. The hotel has wireless. I just enjoy the z train that much!

As far as my love Deeds...We have made a decsion. The breeder called us back this morning before 8am. She wants him back and told us that if he was a bitter, then he would bite everyone not just one person. She understands the family being mad if we keep him. It means we choose him over the nephew. She has a female puppy to give us. We wanted a female to start with, but Deed's was soo cute and he came over and laid his little head on my husbands foot and went to sleep. Who would have known he could now be the bad guy. I know deep down in my heart he will be ok with her. She is well known and loves the breed dearly. She said the little boy must have done something bad to him to trigger him to stalk and attack. She said he was overly protective of our family and she is correct. Deed's saw the nephew by my son and thats when he ran after the nephew and bit him. Deeds knows something is happening. He just wants to lay by me and be by all of us. He was just laying in my bed by my son and neice all pitaful. At least I will be gone this weekend to take my mind off of it until we do the trade Sunday. I have never given a dog away. We have always had them until they passed, this is very difficult and makes me extremely sad, but it is a good depressed if that makes any sense. At least I have something tangible to be sad about.

Everyone have a good weekend and I will check in if I decide to bring it with me!

(((Yoshi)))

Glad you are having a few anxiety-free days. Aren't they GREAT?? I might not be feeling so great today as I just realized I ran out of my Z and though for some reason I still had some, so after work it's off to the Pharmacy!! I have my Xanax if I get into any trouble throughout the day.

I'm soooooooooooooooooooooo happy to hear about Deeds not being put down, as hard as it will still be to give him back, at least he has been given the chance to live. He will always be with you and he will always remember you guys. It will be nice to get another dog right away to help ease the pain.

Finally unpacked everything last night, feels more like a home now. Still have loads of painting to do but I think when my bf is gone for the week next Friday I'll start painting again. Hopefully it will keep my mind occupied because I know anxiety will be put to the test that week. I can already feel the pit in my stomach as it's approaching.

Just glad it's Friday!! Long weekend here in Canada!

Tink

Tink? Darc? Yoshi? Joyce? Where is everybody? It's really quiet on the train today. I'm sorry I haven't been able to post very much lately. Our boss sent out a snippy email about our internet and email usage. I could still get on the site during my breaks, but I've been training a new coworker and it's been a little busy. Friday's are usually very busy and yesterday was no exception.

I think I got my MSN messenger to work, how do I get in contact with you guys?

I know you're probably busy this weekend with planning, moving, and painting. What an exciting time for everybody. My husband and I have been talking more about adding on to the house but our credit is not so good. We need to get a bedroom with a bath added on for my son. He just turned 21 yesterday. Of course, we've also talked about moving into a new home, but two of my three gives have lived here their entire lives and are very atttached to the house. I am too, to tell the truth, although I could do with some friendlier neighbors.

As far as my MI, it's been a rough few days. I've had a headache every day and tingling skin (don't know what that's all about and neither do any of my doctors). Haven't had too much anxiety during the day, but I haven't been sleeping well and have been waking up with anxiety attacks. I thought maybe my zoloft dose was too high and went down to 75 mg, but the anxiety last night was even worse. I don't know what to do.

How are you doing on your effexor, Joyce?

Ali

This post has been edited by alinam: Oct 10 2009, 11:35 AM