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Posted 31 March 2006 - 02:46 PM
I'm into art but mine are the industrial arts. For me, therapy is tinkering w/ an old or working on my house. Its a challenge, a pain and a pleasure!
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Posted 31 March 2006 - 02:50 PM
I like to paint ceramics and woodworks. I havent started on canvas yet. I also like to draw fruits and flowers. Sometimes I take sidewalk chalk and draw outside on a nice day. 
Thats the kid in me I guess. 
Thats the kid in me I guess.
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Posted 31 March 2006 - 03:09 PM
Count me in. I draw when they let me.
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Posted 31 March 2006 - 03:20 PM
I use to do art all the time. I am more into multi-media. BUt then i went to college and did chemistry and stopped all left brain activites. Which is why i am the way i am now. Art provided a balance to express myself, but when i stoped it had no where to go, so it built up and exploded. Balance, we all need balance.
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Posted 31 March 2006 - 03:23 PM
I went to college with a full art scholarship.... switched my major to marketing because I didn't want to teach, and ended up with a degree in marketing/art.... but yeah... I'm an artist/writer... it's in my pores... I'm not much good for anything else. 
I'm more creative than anything else! There's a LOT of that going on around here! 
LOL!
You'll see a LOT of it going on in the bipolar community especially!
I'm more creative than anything else! There's a LOT of that going on around here! LOL!
You'll see a LOT of it going on in the bipolar community especially!
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Posted 31 March 2006 - 03:24 PM
ha ha - Wolf, there are more ways to interpret this:
Musta been some good "Chemistry."
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did chemistry and stopped all left brain activites.
Musta been some good "Chemistry."
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Posted 31 March 2006 - 04:11 PM
"art.chick", good catch. "I am Cat", interesting comment on bipolar. Id like to learn more about this.
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Posted 31 March 2006 - 04:36 PM
Here is a partial list, if you're interested, of bipolars:
*TWF=Touched With Fire by Kay Redfield Jameson
I hope you enjoy reading it!
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List of people believed to have been affected by bipolar disorder
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This is a list of people accompanied by verifiable source citations associating them with bipolar disorder. This list includes only a) deceased persons and b) living persons who have been frank about their condition. It does not include speculation about status of living people who have not publicly stated themselves to have bipolar disorder.
Many of the older cases are speculations based on their biographies rather than an actual medical diagnosis, and in many cases are not widely accepted by historians, biographers or physicians.
Many famous people are believed to have been affected by bipolar disorder, (formerly known as manic depression), based on evidence in their own writings and contemporaneous accounts by those who knew them. It is often suggested that genius (or, at least, creative talent) and mental disorder are linked as discussed by Kay Redfield Jamison in Touched with Fire, though many of the diagnoses in that book are made by Jamison herself.
List
All entries succeeded by TWF are taken from "Touched with fire"
All entries succeeded by NAMI are on the National Alliance for the Mentally Ill list of famous persons with Mental Illnesses
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Hans Christian Andersen
Rigoberto Alpizar. [1]Adam Ant is open about having bipolar disorder: see Adam and the fall, an art.telegraph profile which describes a 2003 Channel 4 television program, "The Madness of Prince Charming," detailing his mental illness.
B
Thomas Lovell Beddoes TWF
Ludwig Van Beethoven NAMI See this article for a review of Beethoven's mental state. Scientific analysis of Beethoven's hair has given rise to speculation that lead poisoning may have been a cause of his depression.
Maurice Benard The General Hospital actor sat down with Oprah Winfrey to discuss his diagnosis, and has since become active in promoting BP awareness. [2]
Russ "Dutch" Boyd, American professional poker player confirmed his diagnosis on his official website.
Jeremy Brett, actor
Frank Bruno, boxer; was hospitalized for a short period and is currently on lithium.
Jeff Buckley according to the biography written about him and his father Tim Buckley, the night before his drowning, he admitted to several loved ones that he suffered from Bi-Polar Disorder.
Lord Byron TWF p. 267 (Touched with fire profiles Lord Byron's illness in detail)
Charles Pierre Baudelaire TWF p. 267
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Winston Churchill NAMI Churchill often referred to "Black dog", his depression. He is also recorded to have undergone manic phases of intense productivity. None of Churchill's numerous biographers, however, have claimed that he was actually bipolar. In 2006 a controversial statue of Churchill wearing a straitjacket was unveiled in Norwich in an attempt to highlight the stigma of mental health problems.
Kurt Cobain His cousin, Beverly Cobain, a "registered nurse (...) [with] experience as a mental health professional" and author of a book, When Nothing Matters Anymore:
stated in an interview: "Kurt was diagnosed at a young age with Attention Deficit Disorder [ADD], then later with bipolar disorder; (...) As Kurt undoubtedly knew, bipolar illness can be very difficult to manage, and the correct diagnosis is crucial. Unfortunately for Kurt, compliance with the appropriate treatment is also a critical factor". [6]
Samuel Taylor Coleridge TWF pp. 219-224, 267. His condition is more commonly directly attributed to drug use "Around 1796, Coleridge started using opium as a pain reliever"
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Ray Davies is openly manic-depressive; also see his autobiography, X-Ray
Charles d**kens TWF p. 267
Gaetano Donizetti NAMI
Patty Duke NAMI, also wrote about her own illness in Brilliant Madness: Living with Manic Depressive Illness
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Ralph Waldo Emerson TWF p. 268
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Carrie Fisher "'I ended up being diagnosed as a bipolar II,' says Fisher." [7]
Francis Scott Key Fitzgerald TWF p. 269
William Faulkner TWF p. 26
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Philip Graham "It had finally penetrated to me that Phil's diagnosis was manic-depression..." Katherine Graham (1997), Personal History, p. 328; Knopf, 1997,
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Alexander Hamilton "Danger, Hypomanic on Board," could well be the other title of "Washington Crossing the Delaware." John Gartner in The Hypomanic Edge makes a strong case that America owes its greatness to a liberal supply of manic lite genes. See Hypomanic Nation.
Mariette Hartley, American actress, has publicly spoken about her bipolar disorder. [8]
Ernest Hemingway TWF p. 269
Jimi Hendrix appears on many lists of famous people with Bipolar Disorder: Mental Health Today added him to their list, Bipolar World added him as well. This is probably due mostly to his song named "Manic Depression" which starts with "Manic depression is touching my soul" and ends with "Manic depression is a frustrating mess". Also, his behavior later in life suggested confusion, depression. It is possible that his behavior was only due to the drug abuse that brought his death, but if he didn't have Bipolar Disorder, the chances are that he at least believed he had it.
Kristin Hersh, formerly of rock band Throwing Muses, is occasionally mentioned as having bipolar disorder, one example being a Muses biography. She has also mentioned the disorder in several interviews.
Hermann Hesse TWF p. 269
Abbie Hoffman: "Abbie was diagnosed in 1980 as having bipolar disorder, more commonly known as manic depression." Jezer, Marty (1993). Abbie Hoffman, Rutgers University Press.
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Kay Redfield Jamison, who profiled her own bipolar disorder in her 1995 memoir An Unquiet Mind and argued for a connection between bipolar disorder and artistic creativity in her 1993 book, Touched with Fire.
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John Keats TWF p. 268; NAMI
Otto Klemperer - see Norman Lebrecht's article at [9].
Margot Kidder - self-described, see [10]: "I have been well and free of the symptoms that are called manic-depression for almost five years, and have been working steadily and leading a happy and productive life since then."
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Debra Lafave - Former schoolteacher who was charged with several counts of having sexual contact with a minor in Hillsborough County, Florida and Marion County, Florida. LaFave attributed her indiscretions to bipolar disorder.[citation needed]
Vivien Leigh - She was severely manic-depressive, and for a major part of her life attributed it to her birth sign, Scorpio: (quoted:) 'My birth sign is Scorpio and they eat themselves up and burn themselves out. I swing between happiness and misery. I am part prude and part nonconformist. I say what I think and I don't pretend and I am prepared to accept the consequences of my actions'; [11] "I cannot let well enough alone. I get restless. I have to be doing different things. I am a very impatient person and headstrong." [12] Biography.com profile, mentions her manic depression
Bill Lichtenstein - Print and broadcast journalist and filmmaker. See October 10, 1994 "Time Magazine" article on Bill Lichtenstein.
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Gustav Mahler See The Man Who Saw It Coming
Kristy McNichol The former child star and teen idol left the show Empty Nest due to her battle with the depression. McNichol later returned to the show for a few episodes during the series' last season. [13]
Spike Milligan "I had to write a new show every week for six months. If Hitler had done that to someone it would be called torture. I was in such a state of hypertension that I was unapproachable by human beings. I became a manic depressive." See Guardian obituary and Comedy's Fab Five
Marilyn Monroe See article
Ben Moody The former guitarist from Evanescence and future solo artist. See MTV News article
Edvard Munch Rothenberg A. Bipolar illness, creativity, and treatment. Psychiatr Q. 2001 Summer;72(2):131-47.
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Napoleon "Life has become a burden to me," Napoleon wrote as a young man (Hershman and Lieb , Brotherhood of Tyrants). See History's Terrible Troika. This diagnosis is not accepted by any mainstream historian or biographer of Napoleon, however.
Isaac Newton NAMI
Florence Nightingale BPW "Florence heard voices and experienced a number of severe depressive episodes in her teens and early 20s - symptoms consistent with the onset of bipolar disorder," Dr. Kathy Wisner, a professor of psychiatry at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center. See this article.
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Jane Pauley The former Today and Dateline host came clean with her diagnosis in her autobiography "Skywriting: A Life Out of the Blue", which she wrote in 2004, as well as on her short-lived talk show. [14], [15], [16], [17], [18], [19]
Jimmy Piersall NAMI
Sylvia Plath "It is as if my life were magically run by two electric currents: joyous and positive and despairing negative ... " See Sylvia Plath - In Her Own Words
Jaco Pastorius "Jaco was diagnosed with this clinical bi-polar condition in the fall of 1982. The events which led up to it were considered "uncontrolled and reckless" incidences." Ingrid Pastorius - http://www.jacop.net/mind.html
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Rene Rivkin Sydney Morning Herald 3 May 2005
Trent Reznor (Nine Inch Nails)[20]
Axl Rose (Guns N' Roses) [21]
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Robert Alexander Schumann TWF p. 269
Phil Spector Admittedly suffers from bipolar disorder, according to Daily Telegraph interview ; see Wikipedia article on Spector
Michael Spensieri"This special gift,it enables me to live both ends of the bipolarity,to survive." Michelangelo Spensieri was called to the Bar of Ontario on March 22, 1974 and resigned October 26, 1989 pursuant to The Law Society of Upper Canada guidelines.
Robert Louis Stevenson TWF p. 268
Ben Stiller "I have not been an easygoing guy. I think it's called bipolar manic depression. I've got a rich history of that in my family" Quotation from Stiller himself, sourced from About.com
Screaming Lord Sutch was revealed as having bipolar disorder after his death.
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Sara Teasdale TWF p. 268
Mark Twain TWF p. 268 (as "Samuel Clemens")
Michael Slater Was very open on Enough Rope with Andrew Denton regarding his experiences with Bipolar II.
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Devin Townsend Of The Devin Townsend Band, Strapping Young Lad and Steve Vai.
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Vincent Van Gogh See Vincent and Me
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Virginia Woolf TWF p. 269; see also Virginia Woolf's psychiatric historyand Virginia Woolf and Her Madness
Tennessee Williams TWF p. 269
Scott Weiland (Stone Temple Pilots, Velvet Revolver) "I suffer from manic-depressive disorder, and I've chosen not to take medication for it." Quotation from Weiland during an interview. Source: VH1.com
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This is a list of people accompanied by verifiable source citations associating them with bipolar disorder. This list includes only a) deceased persons and b) living persons who have been frank about their condition. It does not include speculation about status of living people who have not publicly stated themselves to have bipolar disorder.
Many of the older cases are speculations based on their biographies rather than an actual medical diagnosis, and in many cases are not widely accepted by historians, biographers or physicians.
Many famous people are believed to have been affected by bipolar disorder, (formerly known as manic depression), based on evidence in their own writings and contemporaneous accounts by those who knew them. It is often suggested that genius (or, at least, creative talent) and mental disorder are linked as discussed by Kay Redfield Jamison in Touched with Fire, though many of the diagnoses in that book are made by Jamison herself.
List
All entries succeeded by TWF are taken from "Touched with fire"
All entries succeeded by NAMI are on the National Alliance for the Mentally Ill list of famous persons with Mental Illnesses
A
Hans Christian Andersen
Rigoberto Alpizar. [1]Adam Ant is open about having bipolar disorder: see Adam and the fall, an art.telegraph profile which describes a 2003 Channel 4 television program, "The Madness of Prince Charming," detailing his mental illness.
B
Thomas Lovell Beddoes TWF
Ludwig Van Beethoven NAMI See this article for a review of Beethoven's mental state. Scientific analysis of Beethoven's hair has given rise to speculation that lead poisoning may have been a cause of his depression.
Maurice Benard The General Hospital actor sat down with Oprah Winfrey to discuss his diagnosis, and has since become active in promoting BP awareness. [2]
Russ "Dutch" Boyd, American professional poker player confirmed his diagnosis on his official website.
Jeremy Brett, actor
Frank Bruno, boxer; was hospitalized for a short period and is currently on lithium.
Jeff Buckley according to the biography written about him and his father Tim Buckley, the night before his drowning, he admitted to several loved ones that he suffered from Bi-Polar Disorder.
Lord Byron TWF p. 267 (Touched with fire profiles Lord Byron's illness in detail)
Charles Pierre Baudelaire TWF p. 267
C
Winston Churchill NAMI Churchill often referred to "Black dog", his depression. He is also recorded to have undergone manic phases of intense productivity. None of Churchill's numerous biographers, however, have claimed that he was actually bipolar. In 2006 a controversial statue of Churchill wearing a straitjacket was unveiled in Norwich in an attempt to highlight the stigma of mental health problems.
Kurt Cobain His cousin, Beverly Cobain, a "registered nurse (...) [with] experience as a mental health professional" and author of a book, When Nothing Matters Anymore:
stated in an interview: "Kurt was diagnosed at a young age with Attention Deficit Disorder [ADD], then later with bipolar disorder; (...) As Kurt undoubtedly knew, bipolar illness can be very difficult to manage, and the correct diagnosis is crucial. Unfortunately for Kurt, compliance with the appropriate treatment is also a critical factor". [6]
Samuel Taylor Coleridge TWF pp. 219-224, 267. His condition is more commonly directly attributed to drug use "Around 1796, Coleridge started using opium as a pain reliever"
D
Ray Davies is openly manic-depressive; also see his autobiography, X-Ray
Charles d**kens TWF p. 267
Gaetano Donizetti NAMI
Patty Duke NAMI, also wrote about her own illness in Brilliant Madness: Living with Manic Depressive Illness
E
Ralph Waldo Emerson TWF p. 268
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Carrie Fisher "'I ended up being diagnosed as a bipolar II,' says Fisher." [7]
Francis Scott Key Fitzgerald TWF p. 269
William Faulkner TWF p. 26
G
Philip Graham "It had finally penetrated to me that Phil's diagnosis was manic-depression..." Katherine Graham (1997), Personal History, p. 328; Knopf, 1997,
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Alexander Hamilton "Danger, Hypomanic on Board," could well be the other title of "Washington Crossing the Delaware." John Gartner in The Hypomanic Edge makes a strong case that America owes its greatness to a liberal supply of manic lite genes. See Hypomanic Nation.
Mariette Hartley, American actress, has publicly spoken about her bipolar disorder. [8]
Ernest Hemingway TWF p. 269
Jimi Hendrix appears on many lists of famous people with Bipolar Disorder: Mental Health Today added him to their list, Bipolar World added him as well. This is probably due mostly to his song named "Manic Depression" which starts with "Manic depression is touching my soul" and ends with "Manic depression is a frustrating mess". Also, his behavior later in life suggested confusion, depression. It is possible that his behavior was only due to the drug abuse that brought his death, but if he didn't have Bipolar Disorder, the chances are that he at least believed he had it.
Kristin Hersh, formerly of rock band Throwing Muses, is occasionally mentioned as having bipolar disorder, one example being a Muses biography. She has also mentioned the disorder in several interviews.
Hermann Hesse TWF p. 269
Abbie Hoffman: "Abbie was diagnosed in 1980 as having bipolar disorder, more commonly known as manic depression." Jezer, Marty (1993). Abbie Hoffman, Rutgers University Press.
J
Kay Redfield Jamison, who profiled her own bipolar disorder in her 1995 memoir An Unquiet Mind and argued for a connection between bipolar disorder and artistic creativity in her 1993 book, Touched with Fire.
K
John Keats TWF p. 268; NAMI
Otto Klemperer - see Norman Lebrecht's article at [9].
Margot Kidder - self-described, see [10]: "I have been well and free of the symptoms that are called manic-depression for almost five years, and have been working steadily and leading a happy and productive life since then."
L
Debra Lafave - Former schoolteacher who was charged with several counts of having sexual contact with a minor in Hillsborough County, Florida and Marion County, Florida. LaFave attributed her indiscretions to bipolar disorder.[citation needed]
Vivien Leigh - She was severely manic-depressive, and for a major part of her life attributed it to her birth sign, Scorpio: (quoted:) 'My birth sign is Scorpio and they eat themselves up and burn themselves out. I swing between happiness and misery. I am part prude and part nonconformist. I say what I think and I don't pretend and I am prepared to accept the consequences of my actions'; [11] "I cannot let well enough alone. I get restless. I have to be doing different things. I am a very impatient person and headstrong." [12] Biography.com profile, mentions her manic depression
Bill Lichtenstein - Print and broadcast journalist and filmmaker. See October 10, 1994 "Time Magazine" article on Bill Lichtenstein.
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Gustav Mahler See The Man Who Saw It Coming
Kristy McNichol The former child star and teen idol left the show Empty Nest due to her battle with the depression. McNichol later returned to the show for a few episodes during the series' last season. [13]
Spike Milligan "I had to write a new show every week for six months. If Hitler had done that to someone it would be called torture. I was in such a state of hypertension that I was unapproachable by human beings. I became a manic depressive." See Guardian obituary and Comedy's Fab Five
Marilyn Monroe See article
Ben Moody The former guitarist from Evanescence and future solo artist. See MTV News article
Edvard Munch Rothenberg A. Bipolar illness, creativity, and treatment. Psychiatr Q. 2001 Summer;72(2):131-47.
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Napoleon "Life has become a burden to me," Napoleon wrote as a young man (Hershman and Lieb , Brotherhood of Tyrants). See History's Terrible Troika. This diagnosis is not accepted by any mainstream historian or biographer of Napoleon, however.
Isaac Newton NAMI
Florence Nightingale BPW "Florence heard voices and experienced a number of severe depressive episodes in her teens and early 20s - symptoms consistent with the onset of bipolar disorder," Dr. Kathy Wisner, a professor of psychiatry at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center. See this article.
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Jane Pauley The former Today and Dateline host came clean with her diagnosis in her autobiography "Skywriting: A Life Out of the Blue", which she wrote in 2004, as well as on her short-lived talk show. [14], [15], [16], [17], [18], [19]
Jimmy Piersall NAMI
Sylvia Plath "It is as if my life were magically run by two electric currents: joyous and positive and despairing negative ... " See Sylvia Plath - In Her Own Words
Jaco Pastorius "Jaco was diagnosed with this clinical bi-polar condition in the fall of 1982. The events which led up to it were considered "uncontrolled and reckless" incidences." Ingrid Pastorius - http://www.jacop.net/mind.html
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Rene Rivkin Sydney Morning Herald 3 May 2005
Trent Reznor (Nine Inch Nails)[20]
Axl Rose (Guns N' Roses) [21]
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Robert Alexander Schumann TWF p. 269
Phil Spector Admittedly suffers from bipolar disorder, according to Daily Telegraph interview ; see Wikipedia article on Spector
Michael Spensieri"This special gift,it enables me to live both ends of the bipolarity,to survive." Michelangelo Spensieri was called to the Bar of Ontario on March 22, 1974 and resigned October 26, 1989 pursuant to The Law Society of Upper Canada guidelines.
Robert Louis Stevenson TWF p. 268
Ben Stiller "I have not been an easygoing guy. I think it's called bipolar manic depression. I've got a rich history of that in my family" Quotation from Stiller himself, sourced from About.com
Screaming Lord Sutch was revealed as having bipolar disorder after his death.
T
Sara Teasdale TWF p. 268
Mark Twain TWF p. 268 (as "Samuel Clemens")
Michael Slater Was very open on Enough Rope with Andrew Denton regarding his experiences with Bipolar II.
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Devin Townsend Of The Devin Townsend Band, Strapping Young Lad and Steve Vai.
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Vincent Van Gogh See Vincent and Me
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Virginia Woolf TWF p. 269; see also Virginia Woolf's psychiatric historyand Virginia Woolf and Her Madness
Tennessee Williams TWF p. 269
Scott Weiland (Stone Temple Pilots, Velvet Revolver) "I suffer from manic-depressive disorder, and I've chosen not to take medication for it." Quotation from Weiland during an interview. Source: VH1.com
*TWF=Touched With Fire by Kay Redfield Jameson
I hope you enjoy reading it!
Cat
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Posted 01 April 2006 - 10:41 AM
There is no doubt that there is a correlation between artists (visual, musical, writers etc) and depression/mental illness. I am into all kinds of art (painting and photography are the big ones, and writing). I think that to be totally creative in the arts you have to be very intouch with your emotional self, and often, the types of people who are intouch with their emotions become overwhelmed with them too. Art is usually a way to express what's going on inside.
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photographer here...
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Posted 01 April 2006 - 06:07 PM
no no no, i did not do any of that chemistry... wish i did though, but hey, the 30s are the new adolocent time right?
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Posted 01 April 2006 - 07:17 PM
I was very good in Art when I was in high school. A friend at work and I are thinking of taking some Art classes at Our College. Yikes! Also music is a very big part of my life. I can't imagine life without it.
Ty for the info Cat. Very interersting article on people that are bi-polar.
Ty for the info Cat. Very interersting article on people that are bi-polar.
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Posted 01 April 2006 - 11:51 PM
I am a struggling songwriter, (haven't written a good one yet) and music is one of the most important things for me. I actually struggle very much with having almost too strong of a logical side to express myself emotionally, and have been working very hard to change this.
It is a struggle for me to express myself the way that I want to, because as a child I was always mathematically inclined, and find things like musical theory much easier to grasp than emotional expression. So I have been trying to keep the theory at more of a distance, and focus more on the sounds, pitches, rhythms, and emotions that are evident without thought, experiencing rather than analyzing.
Then again, I have always had pretty severe emotional problems, spending most of my younger years crying, so I know that these things are not out of my reach. I just need to keep reaching for them.
It is a struggle for me to express myself the way that I want to, because as a child I was always mathematically inclined, and find things like musical theory much easier to grasp than emotional expression. So I have been trying to keep the theory at more of a distance, and focus more on the sounds, pitches, rhythms, and emotions that are evident without thought, experiencing rather than analyzing.
Then again, I have always had pretty severe emotional problems, spending most of my younger years crying, so I know that these things are not out of my reach. I just need to keep reaching for them.
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Posted 02 April 2006 - 11:30 AM
Art was always my favourite thing about school. I love to drawn. I dont do it as much as a used to unfortunatly.. i dont really have the patience anymore. Although at work the other day it was VERY quiet so i drew one of the kids toys for something to do and it turned out really well :) Such an amazing feeling goes through you when you feel youve done a good job.
I love my music also and studied audio engineering at college. Im not the most musically creative person, i sing and write words for songs. Before things all took the turn backwards i was learning the guitar and about to give piano a bash. Iv got my own home recording studio and i cant wait for my mind to settle so i can start using it. It has just sat and gathered dust for a year :(
I love my music also and studied audio engineering at college. Im not the most musically creative person, i sing and write words for songs. Before things all took the turn backwards i was learning the guitar and about to give piano a bash. Iv got my own home recording studio and i cant wait for my mind to settle so i can start using it. It has just sat and gathered dust for a year :(
You've got the music in you
Don't let go
You've got the music in you
One dance left
This world is gonna pull through
Don't give up
You've got a reason to live
Don't let go
You've got the music in you
One dance left
This world is gonna pull through
Don't give up
You've got a reason to live
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Posted 05 April 2006 - 02:43 AM
Another artist here. TRained at art school and worked as a book designer/illustrator until bi polar got the better of me. I still paint and draw - a few months ago did large charcoal drawings of my emotions (which were pretty scary) I find when I'm really depressed I can't paint or express myself but when I'm slightly manic I go like blazes! I'm also writing a lot and find that's really good for expressing myself - I've kept journals for years and can read back and see my downward spiral into bi polar.
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Posted 05 April 2006 - 03:21 AM
I wish I was creative...does that count? lol
I was a theatre major...though mostly backstage stuff. I was very involved in music in highschool, and I've tried drawing...but get way too frustrated with it. Mostly the best I get out is short poems....I've never much liked writing anything longer. Art is very important to me, but I guess I wouldn't consider myself an artist so much.
I was a theatre major...though mostly backstage stuff. I was very involved in music in highschool, and I've tried drawing...but get way too frustrated with it. Mostly the best I get out is short poems....I've never much liked writing anything longer. Art is very important to me, but I guess I wouldn't consider myself an artist so much.
"If I could tell the world just one thing
It would be that we're all ok
And not to worry because worry is wasteful
and useless in times like these
I will not be made useless
I won't be idled with despair
I will gather myself around my faith
for light does the darkness most fear
My hands are small, I know,
but they're not yours they are my own
but they're not yours they are my own
and I am never broken "
Jewel
It would be that we're all ok
And not to worry because worry is wasteful
and useless in times like these
I will not be made useless
I won't be idled with despair
I will gather myself around my faith
for light does the darkness most fear
My hands are small, I know,
but they're not yours they are my own
but they're not yours they are my own
and I am never broken "
Jewel
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Thanks for the replies everyone.
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Posted 15 May 2006 - 04:19 PM
Hi Ifcommune,
You can toss me into the mix also.
Art seems to be all I breathe........
Cat, thanks for that really cool info re: BP and art.
You can toss me into the mix also.
Art seems to be all I breathe........
Cat, thanks for that really cool info re: BP and art.
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Posted 16 May 2006 - 04:48 AM
I guess art is a form of expressing our thoughts and feelings in our own unique way.
I have been painting on canvas for many years but as my depression grew stronger i couldnt bring myself to paint....now i have picked up the brush again...HOWEVER...
I hate my paintings they all suck,no matter what anyone else says i still hate them...i just dont get it,im too scared to pick the brush up at the mo...i mean i'd be better off punching a wall or something rather than telling myself that im a crappy artist.
Has anyone else had this experience?
I have been painting on canvas for many years but as my depression grew stronger i couldnt bring myself to paint....now i have picked up the brush again...HOWEVER...
I hate my paintings they all suck,no matter what anyone else says i still hate them...i just dont get it,im too scared to pick the brush up at the mo...i mean i'd be better off punching a wall or something rather than telling myself that im a crappy artist.
Has anyone else had this experience?
Life is too short to wake up with regrets,
So love the people who treat you right.
Forget about the ones who don't.
Believe everything happens for a reason.
If you get a second chance, grab it with both hands.
If it changes your life, let it.
Nobody said life would be easy....
they just promised itd be worth it.
So love the people who treat you right.
Forget about the ones who don't.
Believe everything happens for a reason.
If you get a second chance, grab it with both hands.
If it changes your life, let it.
Nobody said life would be easy....
they just promised itd be worth it.
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Posted 02 June 2006 - 02:20 AM
I guess I am a "professional" artist as I have had a sucessful career in graphics, animation and visual effects for televison and film for quite a while. I also had no formal training in art (which would have made the early years a whole lot easier). I occasionally paint on canvas but for the last 4 years I have been designing and making furniture as a hobby.
I would like to share some observations that may help others. I never had much trouble working with clients, probably because even though I was creating the work, it was work for hire and you give the client what they want (so if it's not to your liking, hey you were paid to do it). On the other hand I am always extremely critical of my own work as I am a perfectionist (bad).
Unless you are truely gifted and a rare talent, expecting (demanding) perfection will only lead to frustration, and that takes all the fun out of it. Instead, strive to create at the best of your abilities and don't compare your work to the masters. Try to improve your work a little at a time, don't rush, and use mistakes as a learning experience. You will get a lot more enjoyment out of your art.
Often when a client (or myself) was focused on trying to fix a small detail or problem, the best course of action was to move on to something else and go back to it later. Even just a short break would put things into perspective. You would be truely surprised to know how often when we went back to it at the end of the day, it no longer bothered anyone!
90% of the time was spent on the last 10% of the project. When you're working on a commercial for a huge client with deep pockets that's fine. However, when working on your hobby you need to know when to stop. There is a point of diminishing returns where it doesn't get better, it just gets different.
Others rarely notice the tiny things that are bothering you, so worry about the big things and the don't sweat the small ones.
That's all very basic, but lots of people forget or don't know, so I hope it helps someone. Remember, part of the enjoyment of the hobby is in the creation process. So if you have fun creating your art it really doesn't matter how it turns out.
Now if I could only follow my own advice I might be able to find the energy to get out to the shop and finish my latest project that's been sitting for a couple of months because it's not "perfect".
cheers
I would like to share some observations that may help others. I never had much trouble working with clients, probably because even though I was creating the work, it was work for hire and you give the client what they want (so if it's not to your liking, hey you were paid to do it). On the other hand I am always extremely critical of my own work as I am a perfectionist (bad).
Unless you are truely gifted and a rare talent, expecting (demanding) perfection will only lead to frustration, and that takes all the fun out of it. Instead, strive to create at the best of your abilities and don't compare your work to the masters. Try to improve your work a little at a time, don't rush, and use mistakes as a learning experience. You will get a lot more enjoyment out of your art.
Often when a client (or myself) was focused on trying to fix a small detail or problem, the best course of action was to move on to something else and go back to it later. Even just a short break would put things into perspective. You would be truely surprised to know how often when we went back to it at the end of the day, it no longer bothered anyone!
90% of the time was spent on the last 10% of the project. When you're working on a commercial for a huge client with deep pockets that's fine. However, when working on your hobby you need to know when to stop. There is a point of diminishing returns where it doesn't get better, it just gets different.
Others rarely notice the tiny things that are bothering you, so worry about the big things and the don't sweat the small ones.
That's all very basic, but lots of people forget or don't know, so I hope it helps someone. Remember, part of the enjoyment of the hobby is in the creation process. So if you have fun creating your art it really doesn't matter how it turns out.
Now if I could only follow my own advice I might be able to find the energy to get out to the shop and finish my latest project that's been sitting for a couple of months because it's not "perfect".
cheers
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Posted 02 June 2006 - 08:01 PM
Writing--especially songwriting--is my "art form."
For what it's worth, I'm BP II.
For what it's worth, I'm BP II.
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Posted 02 June 2006 - 08:38 PM
I have a few members of My family that paint. I am going to start taking a art class here and there soon so We see if I have the artists touch too.
That is My Pearls of Wisdom.
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Posted 02 June 2006 - 09:21 PM
INSIGHT
Sitting alone on the grass, I listened to a stream. The soft flowing waters were the ripples of a dream.Above, clouds of pure velvet spoke softly to me, ‘Look deep into the waters and tell me what you see.’The stream was so alive-so full of energy! It’s journey, so difficult-yet a continuing necessity.It had to reach the river, before it met the sea And return a full circle, to discover purity.A lonely leaf came drifting by to join the waters journey; I watched it as it ebbed and flowed-It had some kind of destiny. Sometimes the waters faltered and the leaf would sink below, But once all calm, it’d float atop-And on it’s way would go. TRUE LIFE IS A FULL CIRCLE-of many highs and lows, And where at last we all end up-no-one but God knows.Bad things happen to everyone and the stream-it gave me strength To learn from life’s experiences and become a better self.The solitary leaf was swept away-having no choice but to hang on and stay. Struggling hard to survive the ride-it eventually BROKE FREE!It changed-it aged- it learned so much- THE LITTLE LEAF WAS ME! rights reserved by ME
Sitting alone on the grass, I listened to a stream. The soft flowing waters were the ripples of a dream.Above, clouds of pure velvet spoke softly to me, ‘Look deep into the waters and tell me what you see.’The stream was so alive-so full of energy! It’s journey, so difficult-yet a continuing necessity.It had to reach the river, before it met the sea And return a full circle, to discover purity.A lonely leaf came drifting by to join the waters journey; I watched it as it ebbed and flowed-It had some kind of destiny. Sometimes the waters faltered and the leaf would sink below, But once all calm, it’d float atop-And on it’s way would go. TRUE LIFE IS A FULL CIRCLE-of many highs and lows, And where at last we all end up-no-one but God knows.Bad things happen to everyone and the stream-it gave me strength To learn from life’s experiences and become a better self.The solitary leaf was swept away-having no choice but to hang on and stay. Struggling hard to survive the ride-it eventually BROKE FREE!It changed-it aged- it learned so much- THE LITTLE LEAF WAS ME! rights reserved by ME
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Posted 03 June 2006 - 10:56 AM
i've been a singer/songwriter/musician for way over 30 yrs. 
i started playing the piano at the early age of 3 
.......then moved to the guitar,learned drums and harmonica on my own,and have played in many bands thruought my yrs........i've also got my own demo-CD out too 
plus i also draw as well..........i have a notebook filled of thing's i've drawn over the yrs. Music is my number one passion.................and drawing is my second 
............one day i'll be singing on the radio,and doing my own concerts.............. 
.........."bear"
i started playing the piano at the early age of 3 .......then moved to the guitar,learned drums and harmonica on my own,and have played in many bands thruought my yrs........i've also got my own demo-CD out too plus i also draw as well..........i have a notebook filled of thing's i've drawn over the yrs. Music is my number one passion.................and drawing is my second ............one day i'll be singing on the radio,and doing my own concerts.............. .........."bear"
"Never be ashamed of who You are.....and always always speak from Your Heart and Soul,don't let anyone ever take that from You".........You are Your own unique individual,always remember that" "Be Stronge,Be Couragous,and be Proud of who You are...and NO ONE can ever step all over You". PS. I'm the One holding the mic while singing,if You view my RT pic,it's under "My Albums" take a peek,leave a comment*LOL*...........oh and the Other One in the pic with me,is a good Friend of mine.....Her Daughter's B/F took the pic...
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