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The Wellbutrin Honeymoon

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Do you think its the same whether its SR or XL Wellbutrin?

I've never tried the SR version, but based on feedback, most people find the XL version a bit smoother.

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I've never tried the SR version, but based on feedback, most people find the XL version a bit smoother.

... which makes me wonder - has anyone had "wobbles" in how they feel if they switch from one version to the other? How has that transition been?

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Hi, I am now to these forums; I discovered them when doing a search on Wellbutrin.

After being without any antidepressant for four months (I had tried Prozax, Lexapro and Effexor before but they did not help much) I have started on Elontril (the German name of Wellbutrin 150 XL) three days ago. So far I have experienced nothing but unpleasant side effects - headaches, high blood pressure (normally I have really low blood pressure), insomia and itching. I was hoping to feel more focused and with more drive - I am not only suffering from depression but also from ADD (inattentive type).

Have any of the "Honeymooners" have experienced these unpleasant side effects, too?

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:hearts: to DF, (((((daughty)))))

I got everything except for the itching, and it all faded away by 8 weeks. A friend of mine got the itching and it kept getting worse, so he had to stop taking Wellburtin. Hopefully it will fade away for you but if it doesn't, be sure to let a doctor know, because it could be an indication of an allergic reaction.

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Hi Burgy, thanks for the warm welcome and for your answer.

I called my shrink yesterday and she said that the itching might stop, but that I have to quit immediately if I get a rash. Oh well. Is one pimple a "rash"? Difficult...

Anyway, I'll see how it goes and keep you posted ;)

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Oh I'm so glad the internet exists. :flowers: I'm so glad that others feel weirdly better in some ways right away too, because if I told my dr. she wouldn't believe me. But there's not a placebo effect powerful enough to do this. I JUST started today. I was having a godawful morning with all attendant suicidal thoughts etc. I had to bike to the pharmacy which normally wouldn't be a big deal but today it was just an excruciating project. I got home and took one and watched a movie. Normally, when feeling this bad I would just feel too on edge to do anything but cry and listen to music. But I worked on some stuff and I realized that I'd concentrated for more than hour which doesn't happen when I feel this way. :hearts: And I even did dishes. It wasn't as good to qualify as a high or anything, and certainly didn't take away all my symptoms, but it did do something. Thank God .I'd really needed it. So good to know a little bit more what to expect, thanks again!

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:hearts:

I've heard from a few people recently who are going through this. Hang in there!

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My honeymoon was great! It was like I took an xr adderall. A this week it slowly wore off and I wanted to die. I am back to no energy, boring, helpless self.

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Hang in there, (((((Chenderson)))))!! I know it sucks, but you'll make it through. :boxing:

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My honeymoon was great! It was like I took an xr adderall. A this week it slowly wore off and I wanted to die. I am back to no energy, boring, helpless self.

I understand what you're going through. I have had more energy, but horrible headaches every night, really bad insomnia, mood swings etc... I think it will get better though, I feel better today anyways, lol :)

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Hang in there, (((((Chenderson)))))!! I know it sucks, but you'll make it through. :boxing:

THis is off subject, but have you got hallucinations from it?

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THis is off subject, but have you got hallucinations from it?

I got some auditory hallucinations, pretty minor and temporary, when I first started Wellbutrin, and also when I increased from 150mg to 300mg. Lying in bed at night, I would hear sparse music, like a couple of notes on a piano here and there, and a few times I heard what sounded like whispering or distant conversation, about random things. I think I heard my name spoken once, and a couple of times, I heard someone enter the room and walk over to the side of the bed, which was pretty unnerving! But I knew these were possible startup side effects, so I didn't freak out. It was kind of fascinating, in a strange way.

I've never gotten visual hallucinations from Wellbutrin, although it does seem to strengthen my ability to visualize (in my mind's eye).

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THis is off subject, but have you got hallucinations from it?

I got some auditory hallucinations, pretty minor and temporary, when I first started Wellbutrin, and also when I increased from 150mg to 300mg. Lying in bed at night, I would hear sparse music, like a couple of notes on a piano here and there, and a few times I heard what sounded like whispering or distant conversation, about random things. I think I heard my name spoken once, and a couple of times, I heard someone enter the room and walk over to the side of the bed, which was pretty unnerving! But I knew these were possible startup side effects, so I didn't freak out. It was kind of fascinating, in a strange way.

I've never gotten visual hallucinations from Wellbutrin, although it does seem to strengthen my ability to visualize (in my mind's eye).

I've gotten a few auditory hallucinations too. I've heard my guitar falling down and whispering voices. Sometimes I see things move that are standing still. Like a tree looks like it is alive, people in pictures are moving, a rock looks like its growing. It's interesting, but freaky at the same time. My doctor didn't tell me about the side effects, the whole honeymoon thing. That would've been nice, but what does she know she's only a doctor. ha

Thx

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I am on day three of Wellbutrin at 100mg. I have felt nothing. I suffer from bipolar disorder (staying mostly on the depressive side) and anxiety, but my pdoc prescribed the Wellbutrin for my Seasonal Affective Disorder. I didn't expect to feel anything this soon but after reading about the Honeymoon phase, I'm concerned that because it has had no effect on me that it never will.

I've been on every anti-depressant known to man over the years and only got help from Prozac. Unfortuntately it ran its course and pooped out on me eventually. I've actually tried Wellbutrin once before with no help, but my pdoc says that because I suffer from SAD that I need to take it NOW as opposed to in the summer time like I did last time. I find it hard to believe, but I'm at the point where I'll try anything to feel better.

As long as I don't have any adverse side effects, I will stick it out with the WB for a few months and hope for the best.

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You all cannot imagine how much your posts mean to me-you all are doing a great service. I started my Wellbutrin a little over 2 weeks ago. The first week I took 150 every other day because I could not tolerate feeling so wired I could come out of my skin. Even stopped it after the initial jolt of energy but then two days later as the effects had mostly subsided, I had the best day I have ever had, even on all the SSRIs I have tried. So I did the every other day and then worked up to 150 for a week and then have had the 300 for a week. I felt fantastic initially but then started dropping. Haven't slept well so I thought that was part of it. Then felt some depression and the first negative feelings I have had since being on it. I was at the point of thinking of quitting but reading here has me convinced that this is worth trying. I have been so much more productive and involved in life, even when I am feeling down.

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hey there. thanks so much for starting this thread. i had a 6-week honeymoon -- . the honeymoon ended two weeks ago and i can't concentrate and am on the brink of tears all the time. even if the "post-honeymoon blues" don't go away while on bupropion, i consider myself lucky for having felt like what i think of as "my real self" for 6 weeks.

its good to see people are having a similar initial peak and that the trough that follows isn't permanent.

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I think my honeymoon only lasted about a week, there are still some positive results, I feel that I'm thinking more clearly, but I also think that is what has caused me to feel down again, the memories of what caused my depression are on my mind so much more. I always knew I had not resolved my issues but the Remeron I was on kind of blunted everything. Now I know I need supportive counseling, I just hope the WB improves my outlook and energy again as it stabilizes. I think I've been on it 2 1/2 weeks now.

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Burgy:

I also just wanted to thank you very much for creating this thread. It

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Yeah, the sleep deprivation is the hardest part for me too, and I don't understand why I can dose off on the couch in the afternoon but as soon as I get in bed I'm wide awake. I do like the part that I'm speaking my mind more rather than keeping things to myself and letting it fester and bother me. Maybe if I stick it out it will result in a more settled mind.

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Hi All,

After taking 10mg Lexapro for about 9 weeks (which kicked me out of the worst of the major depression that I was in for about one year), my pdoc added 150mg Wellbutrin SR (at my request), which I began taking about a week and one-half ago in the morning. This has been my experience so far:

Day 1 - Headache

Day 2 - Headache not as bad, and strangely calmer feeling overall

Day 3 - Headache gone. Calm feeling still evident. Suddenly at work, I realized that I was actually feeling wide awake during the early afternoon (very unusual for me). Going home that afternoon, I had this feeling that the world was looking so much better, even the scenery seemed to look better! On the drive home, I kept thinking about this strange feeling (wow, is this really the meds doing this, I hope this last forever). The brain fog was still there, but I actually thought that even this may go away.

Then I got home and took my blood pressure, and it had skyrocketed to 172/106! I knew this was a side effect of Welly, so I called my pdoc immediately. Unfortunately, he didn't get back to me that evening, and I did not take the dose the next morning. That next day, I went to the pdoc's office where they took my pressure, and then I was put on Diovan to reduce it. He also told me to continue the Welly, which I have done. However, I have not had that wonderful feeling of brightness and optimism since that third day, and for the past several days I have actually felt unwell, i.e., a bit anxious, neck tension and visual disturbances (trouble focusing mostly). However, today, which is about day 10, I feel a bit better again, although not to the extend I did on Day 3.

I feel that Welly may be the answer for me to finally kick me out of this completely, so I'm going to do my best to stick it out, side-effects and all. I just hope my blood pressure doesn't get real high again (it's still a bit high but has come down due to the Diovan) since that may be the one problem that may cause me to discontinue. Did anyone else have the blood pressure problem, and be able to effectively deal with it while staying on Welly?

Thanks.

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Did anyone else have the blood pressure problem, and be able to effectively deal with it while staying on Welly?

My blood pressure shot way up for a few weeks when I first started WB, but then came back down to normal again. Maybe after a couple of months, you could talk to your doctor about trying to go without the BP medication and see if it's back to normal. Might as well be on as few medications as possible.

You seem to have experienced some of that post-honeymoon slump, but don't worry, you'll climb back out again soon. Keep us posted!

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Did anyone else have the blood pressure problem, and be able to effectively deal with it while staying on Welly?

My blood pressure shot way up for a few weeks when I first started WB, but then came back down to normal again. Maybe after a couple of months, you could talk to your doctor about trying to go without the BP medication and see if it's back to normal. Might as well be on as few medications as possible.

You seem to have experienced some of that post-honeymoon slump, but don't worry, you'll climb back out again soon. Keep us posted!

Thanks Burgy! Yes, I'm hoping to go off the BP Med ASAP, but am a bit concerned since I'm sure I will eventually have the WB dose raised with time and this may cause a further spike in BP. Keeping fingers crossed!

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Thanks, Burgy and everyone else for contributing to this thread. It's funny that the official documentation for the drug is so sparse and nondescript as far as side-effects go. There was no mention of the "honeymoon," which, I imagine, contributes to many people dropping the drug before it stabilizes. It seems it would be in the manufacturers' interest to document such things!

On top of that, the "don't drink with alcohol" warning is so vague that it doesn't really explain anything. In my experience, drinking alcohol while on WB, even a modest amount, brings on negative attitudes and depression in me. It didn't used to do that for certain! I had to find out the hard way, and also through searching online forums like this one. If it weren't for forums like this, I'd think I was crazier than I actually am! Thanks, everyone.

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How long did it take for you guys to feel this "honey money effect"? I've been on the med for 2 days now and haven't really felt any different at all. Not even any side effects yet. I'm gona give it a little longer, about one week to be exact, and if still no "honey money" effect I will probably give up on it. Why? Read below.

I believe that if you truly do have low dopamine levels, then after taking Wellbutrin, even after a few days, if you where truly low in levels than yes, you will experience that "honey money, super happy effect". If you don't experience anything - chances are you AREN'T low in dopamine levels. Some people say "stick it out, it can take weeks for the med to take effect", but thats not true IMO. I only believe it takes weeks to work in people who are already decently balanced in their dopamine levels. So therefore since your levels are already pretty balanced overall, you don't really feel any sudden changes. That's why it takes weeks for it to work for people like that, and even when it does, it's not going to be as drastic as the people who are low on it and notice changes right away. . But for those that are truly low, once they start to take Wellbutrin and it raises their dopamine levels, since they have been low on it for a long time, then they will feel those "changes" much more and much quicker when their levels are being rasied to more normal levels.

If that didn't make any sense to you, let me explain it like this:

Person A has a dopamine level of 25

Person B Has a Dopamine level of 150. (200 being the normal)

Person A takes Wellbutrin, and due to their low levels, wellbutrin will have a very strong and fast effect on them. Since they are truly low on dopamine levels, once they take Wellbutrin and it gets their levels up higher - they start to experience that "happy" feeling. AKA the honeymoon. Their dopamine levels may rise to 150 within a few days, which is a huge rise, and the Wellbutrin may actual start to make "all that extra dopamine to get back to normal levels", hence why people will experience that "amazing un-real happines" when their levels sky-rocket from being so low for so long.

Now Person B takes Wellbutrin, and due to their levels being not too far below normal, they won't feel much change soon, and when they do, it'll take a few weeks or more to notice any effect. Since their levels are already not too low being at 150, their body may only increase say at a rate of 5 per day. Slowly building up to that normal 200 level. Therefore, it'll take weeks before notcing any effect.

Now I am no doctor, but I still believe in what I just explained. As for those numbers I used (saying 200 was the normal dopamine level). I made those numers up and I was just using those numbers as a "scale" so I could explain my theory.

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