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Cymbalta Withdrawal... It's Not Pretty

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I've been on several SSRIs before, but none of them kicked me as much as Cymbata. I know there's a thread for various Cymbalta withdrawal symptoms, but I feel like my experience warrants more than a "me too".

I had been on 60mg, then 30 for a long time, then I decided that the side effects were too much and I quit. If there is a 15mg capsule I haven't seen it; I figured that since I was on 30 for awhile, and since my pdoc did not object, I could handle dropping to zero. I have done much the same with Wellbutrin, Celexa, Lexapro, and Fluoxetine. After a day or two of minor discomfort, I was OK from ending those other drugs.

This one is a lot tougher. The whole 'brain zaps' thing -- I was never sure I knew what people were talking about, but now I suddenly have them. Every time I glance in one direction or the other, or swivel my head too fast, it's like a pressure drop and momentary, barely audible effect -- yes, like an electrical zap in my ears. It's accompanied by a slight dislocated feeling, like what you get in your stomach when you're falling -- but in your head.

I'm irritable and angry. One of the reasons I'm dropping Cymbalta is because it kills my energy; now I'm more energetic, all right, but want to fight someone.

I'm alternately hot and cold; I find myself changing clothes a lot.

I alternate quite rapidly between feeling like doing something productive, and feeling like it's not really worth it. This last bit is actually not that worrisome; it seems like a normal result of dropping an antidepressant. It doesn't bother me like the zaps.

Anyway... it's day 5 and I find myself nervous. I have read horror stories about people stopping this drug and having withdrawal effects go on long after they're off. (The fear is, they will never go away.) I will stop short of making any predictions about my long-term condition, as 5 days isn't much time, but it's longer and more severe than any withdrawal I've experienced. I admit it has me worried that the drug has done something to damage me permanently. The 'brain zaps' are the most clear-cut example of something I have never, ever experienced before going off Cymbalta, and I am frightened by them. At the same time I am reluctant to go back on any amount of the drug, as I want this to be done with this as soon as possible. I will talk to my pdoc on Monday and hopefully decide on a course of action.

For anyone else wanting to get off Cymbalta -- my advice is to taper like mad. Find out if splitting capsules is safe, and do it if it is. Take it slowly. I have the luxury of an on-again, off-again job that's currently off, so I had the luxury of going into a shell and not having my life fall apart because I couldn't deal with work. (Hopefully I can get myself together again before I'm once again busy.) If your situation is different, ramping down slowly is doubly important.

For those who are not on Cymbalta but are considering starting the drug -- well, again, I don't want to be the guy who runs in and says the sky is falling, but I've used a lot of antidepressants in my life and this is the only one with a withdrawal that has me scared. I just hope that in a month or two I will feel more like myself again, and that the decision to use this drug isn't one that haunts me in later years.

If anyone else has had a particularly rough time getting off Cymbalta, I'd love to hear from you. (It would help if your story has a happy ending, of course -- but I'll take any sort of information I can get!)

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I've been on several SSRIs before, but none of them kicked me as much as Cymbata. I know there's a thread for various Cymbalta withdrawal symptoms, but I feel like my experience warrants more than a "me too".

I had been on 60mg, then 30 for a long time, then I decided that the side effects were too much and I quit. If there is a 15mg capsule I haven't seen it; I figured that since I was on 30 for awhile, and since my pdoc did not object, I could handle dropping to zero. I have done much the same with Wellbutrin, Celexa, Lexapro, and Fluoxetine. After a day or two of minor discomfort, I was OK from ending those other drugs.

This one is a lot tougher. The whole 'brain zaps' thing -- I was never sure I knew what people were talking about, but now I suddenly have them. Every time I glance in one direction or the other, or swivel my head too fast, it's like a pressure drop and momentary, barely audible effect -- yes, like an electrical zap in my ears. It's accompanied by a slight dislocated feeling, like what you get in your stomach when you're falling -- but in your head.

I'm irritable and angry. One of the reasons I'm dropping Cymbalta is because it kills my energy; now I'm more energetic, all right, but want to fight someone.

I'm alternately hot and cold; I find myself changing clothes a lot.

I alternate quite rapidly between feeling like doing something productive, and feeling like it's not really worth it. This last bit is actually not that worrisome; it seems like a normal result of dropping an antidepressant. It doesn't bother me like the zaps.

Anyway... it's day 5 and I find myself nervous. I have read horror stories about people stopping this drug and having withdrawal effects go on long after they're off. (The fear is, they will never go away.) I will stop short of making any predictions about my long-term condition, as 5 days isn't much time, but it's longer and more severe than any withdrawal I've experienced. I admit it has me worried that the drug has done something to damage me permanently. The 'brain zaps' are the most clear-cut example of something I have never, ever experienced before going off Cymbalta, and I am frightened by them. At the same time I am reluctant to go back on any amount of the drug, as I want this to be done with this as soon as possible. I will talk to my pdoc on Monday and hopefully decide on a course of action.

For anyone else wanting to get off Cymbalta -- my advice is to taper like mad. Find out if splitting capsules is safe, and do it if it is. Take it slowly. I have the luxury of an on-again, off-again job that's currently off, so I had the luxury of going into a shell and not having my life fall apart because I couldn't deal with work. (Hopefully I can get myself together again before I'm once again busy.) If your situation is different, ramping down slowly is doubly important.

For those who are not on Cymbalta but are considering starting the drug -- well, again, I don't want to be the guy who runs in and says the sky is falling, but I've used a lot of antidepressants in my life and this is the only one with a withdrawal that has me scared. I just hope that in a month or two I will feel more like myself again, and that the decision to use this drug isn't one that haunts me in later years.

If anyone else has had a particularly rough time getting off Cymbalta, I'd love to hear from you. (It would help if your story has a happy ending, of course -- but I'll take any sort of information I can get!)

Thanks

I know what you're going through!!! My doctor didn't say anything about tapering off, and I stopped the 30 mg. dose of Cymbalta--which I'd been on for a month and I hated it, as I flew off the handle all the time and just felt lousy--cold turkey last Wednesday. By Friday I felt like my head was going to shatter into little pieces, or like I left my brain back there somewhere every time I moved. Today, Sunday, I feel no better. I can't do anything--I've been sleeping a lot and don't want to exert myself because I'm afraid my brain will explode or something horrible. I've been crying at the drop of a hat, and anything my husband says to me makes me burst into tears.

Fortunately, I asked a friend the other day who his pdoc was, and he gave me the name of someone I called right away. She saw me the very next day (yesterday)--I think she's going to save my life! She said the doctor never should have let me go off the Cymbalta cold turkey--there are a zillion of those quacks out there, and they should all be shot. But she's having me get blood work tomorrow and is monitoring me very closely--said I can call her any time of the day or night. She has prescribed a patch called Emsam, which I can start on the eighth day after I'm off Cymbalta. I can't find a lot about it, but she seems to be very up on things, and I trust her more than the other no-good loser I'd been entrusting my brain to for so long. I mean, this is serious stuff we're dealing with here!!! It's our brains!!!

So I'll let you know how things go--if I get through this withdrawal. It IS total h***, no doubt about it. Someone told me to drink LOTS of water. Wouldn't it be nice if that gave me some relief...

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I'll be seeing my pdoc today -- or at least trying to. I'll update how my situation progresses.

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From what I've read about tapering off Cymbalta the idea makes me shutter. I've been on it for just about three years and know that even if I'm a couple of hours late taking the dose I get the zappers. I imagine if I ever decide to get off for any reason, I'll probably ask for another med to cross taper on and then taper off the second med. I know when I tapered off Paxil, I didn't have any problems, so that will probably be the med I ask for. Something like 10 or 5mg., of Paxil would probably work for me as I was really doing well on 10mg. I just keep my fingers crossed that this would work.

Be careful about the pills if you are splitting them. I hear that if you get the pill dissolving in your mouth, it can burn your throat. I guess the time released balls are really caustic on mucus membranes.

I don't know why docs try to do this without telling us what to expect. You never see anything on the website about how difficult it is to get off these meds. We all know how difficult it was to get on this one as it's hard on your stomach.

Are you planning on going on another antidepressant? If so, now would be the time to start, as it might take the zaps away.

Jackie

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Today is day 5 for me off Cymbalta. It's been a long, strange trip so far. I have no energy, the zaps are still happening, and I have SO much to do today. I just finished watching a movie on TV and cried all the way through it. I am scheduled to start Emsam on Thursday if my bloodwork is okay... I'm trying to hang in there, but my motivation to do any little thing is zilch. It's like something is totally shut down somewhere inside me.

What a relief to be able to write about this and know there are people out there who understand. My husband has no idea--and it's better that he's out of the house for the day, because I feel guilty and apologetic for being this way around him. My self-esteem is in the pits, too, so all I do is beat myself up when I'm around him. I wish I could talk myself out of this, but it hasn't worked so far.

I have to keep reminding myself that this too shall pass. But will it...? :hearts:

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Thanks all who posted... keep us informed. Leslie, do you generally talk with your husband about your issues? I always keep my wife informed, and it helps to have someone else (with a more objective viewpoint) keeping track of me. This is useful both for mental support and for getting a second opinion on whether I'm, say, being a jerk to someone, or whether I'm justified in taking issue with them.

OK, so I called the pdoc and... frankly... I'm going to look for a new one. Unfortunately pdocs are not as plentiful as therapists, and it's a pain to get the paperwork done so I can look for a new one, but I will try. My current guy is OK, but not good or great. He listens to me, but he's very poor at giving me full info on potential negative effects. Example: cymbalta. :) Also, he gave me seroquel when I had a sleeping problem, and it works for that -- but then I have been reading about people who develop the shakes -- permanently, even after they stop the drug -- from seoquel. This is not a phantom effect, it seems pretty well documented. Probably very low risk, but enough to make the drug not for me; I try to avoid drugs with side effects that last forever. (Obviously there's some risk with everything, but I like to know about the worst possible side effects *before* I start a drug.)

So, my pdoc recommended that I start taking 30mg of cymbalta every *other* day, thus effectively making it a 15mg dose. And maybe that works for some people, but to me that sounds like a *terrible* idea, as I can tell when I miss a day, so I'd effectively be speedballing (up one day, down the next).

So here's what I'm doing, in case it's helpful to others. (And no I'm not a doctor, so consider the following just informational, not a recommendation to follow my example. I am insane and should not be listened to, under any circumstances.)

I opened a 30mg capsule and found it much easier to deal with than I expected. The drug inside is not powder, but a bunch of micro-balls, like tiny ball bearings. The capsules come apart very easily, and fit back together very easily as well.

It's therefore a simple task to turn 30mg pills into 15mg pills, or 10mg, or whatever. Open the pill, making sure that the white end is down (because that's the longer part of the capsule). Look inside. Note that the micro-balls fill the white part of the capsule almost up to the top. Get a small, easy-to-manage container (I use the dry cap from a disposable water bottle) and start pouring excess micro-balls out. Do this until the white half is just under half-full. (Hold it up to the light if necessary, so the light shines through and you can see how much is in there.) When it's just under half full you have about a 15mg pill. Try to be as precise as possible.

If you pour out too much, take a small piece of paper and fold it into quarters so it will hold micro-balls. Then pour a few micro-balls into this paper container. Using one of the folds so you can pour precisely, refill the capsule until it reaches that just-under-half-full mark.

Close the capsule by putting the blue half back on.

Go down to the drugstore and buy some small, empty gelatin capsules. Use these to make more 15mg pills from the micro-balls that are left over. Since these gelatin capsules are likely *not* the same size as the original cymbalta capsules, the safest way to get a 15mg pill is to do the aforementioned procedure to make a 15mg pill from the original capsule, and then take all the remaining micro-balls from that capsule (which should be 15mg) and just pour it all into the gelatin capsule. Since the gelatin capsule holds an unknown capacity, I would not attempt to eyeball it.

My plan is to go on 15mg for a week or so to stabilize myself, and then take it from there. If I can get to a point where I feel OK, I will try to make 10mg capsules, and ramp down to those.

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I have been taking my homemade 15mg pills for several days now. The brain zaps went away literally within 12 hours of taking the first one. I continued to feel pretty crappy overall -- possibly worse in some respects, probably because I was getting some start-up effects again -- but that's subsided.

I feel like I'm probably doing the right thing. I will continue at 15mg for awhile and then ramp down to a homemade 10mg, and then 5. I'll continue to post my progress for the benefit of anyone trying to deal with the same issues.

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This is all so frightening to me....hearing the horror of quitting this drug. :(

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Ok all, Can we get some sort of idea of how long the withdrawals are from this drug? It's been over a week and the brain zaps are in full force. My body is also aching and I feel like I'm coming down with the flu.

One good thing? I got my sex drive back! Thank God.

My question now is....How long is this hellish withdrawal going to last. Weeks, Months, a year? Please get back those of you that have got over these nasty withdrawals.

Best,

G

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I'll check in. I'm currently on about a 10mg homemade pill (as described in my previous posts) and feel pretty good. Not great, mind you, but no brain zaps, no obvious headaches (maybe minor ones), etc. I plan to stay at this level for a few more days and then continue to taper down toward zero.

As for the duration of withdrawal if you go cold turkey, I cannot say anything definite. I went for about a week with the brain zaps still in full effect before deciding to jump back on and then taper down more slowly, in hopes of dealing with the side effects better.

Some of the more alarmist web sites out there suggest that the brain zaps can be permanent. I don't see a lot to support a thesis one way or the other right now; obviously I prefer to think that they are temporary. :)

I will continue to post as I taper down, and let people know how it's going. Anyone who stopped cold and feels the withdrawal effects are too harsh could possibly emulate my technique.

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I'll check in. I'm currently on about a 10mg homemade pill (as described in my previous posts) and feel pretty good. Not great, mind you, but no brain zaps, no obvious headaches (maybe minor ones), etc. I plan to stay at this level for a few more days and then continue to taper down toward zero.

As for the duration of withdrawal if you go cold turkey, I cannot say anything definite. I went for about a week with the brain zaps still in full effect before deciding to jump back on and then taper down more slowly, in hopes of dealing with the side effects better.

Some of the more alarmist web sites out there suggest that the brain zaps can be permanent. I don't see a lot to support a thesis one way or the other right now; obviously I prefer to think that they are temporary. :)

I will continue to post as I taper down, and let people know how it's going. Anyone who stopped cold and feels the withdrawal effects are too harsh could possibly emulate my technique.

Whoa.....permanant brain zaps? I'm pretty sure that woulnd't happen. I'd be suing Lilly big time if that was the case as I'm sure others would as well. You'd think however that we could get something out of them for the weeks of pain we are going through. I already titrated down from the 60mg per day. I'm now at zero and will keep you updated. It's been about a week now. A funny story to share however is that my daughter rented a movie called "Stick it". It's about Gymnastics and "bad" parents. I think I cried about 3 times? Not balling, but just emotional. The funny thing however was that it felt "good" to "feel" again. I've lacked emotions for over 10 years now due to SSRI's. I hope to feel again without these crazy side effects.

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G

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Yeah, you definitely feel less when on these drugs. That's both good and bad. I feel like when I'm off them the stakes are simply higher. I can either feel much better or much worse when I'm off the drugs than I can while on the drugs. My emotional range is simply wider.

That's part of the reason I'm coming off them. I start to feel, sometimes, like I'm cheating myself of the experience of living by being on this stuff. Ideally I could focus on managing the down times better, rather than trying to obliterate them completely with medication.

But both ways have their benefits and drawbacks, and it seems like I go on and off the meds based on my needs at any given time.

BTW I'm somewhere under 10mg now, and will see if I can get that closer to 5 in the next couple of days.

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It's been a week and a half and still having the brain zaps associated with looking in a different direction. Some kind of veritgo issue. I do get the feeling that they are less bothersome, but this is something that must go away. I'm a photographer and don't need this on my shoots.

I'm working out everyday with a personal trainer and the money spent on this is far and above better than cognitive therapy coupled with drug. I'm feeling super motivated and optimistic about the future. I'm also eating much better. Raw food diet for another week to detox and then on to a more doable routine.

I'll post again in a few days.

Best,

Greg

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I'm down to what looks like 5mg (I have to eyeball it, so that's approximate). Feeling relatively OK and no real brain zaps at this point, though if I move my eyes rapidly I can get a little of the effect. I plan to go at least a week on this very minimal level before trying to taper down yet further.

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Geesh! To think of all the energy it takes to get off this med! Who'da thunk??

I don't know how you determine what's in that pill as it's a time released med, but who cares? I heard they made a 20mg. pill, but I have never seen it advertised. I'm just waiting for all this to come out in the medical news one of these days. Docs act like you have lost it when you tell them about the zaps, and no one has been able to explain it to me except to guess that it's from lack of chemicals in your brain that the meds we're producing.

I still like the med, whatever the side effects are at this point. I think coming off it would be difficult on top of managing all the things that are going on for me at this point. I only got a stomach ache going on, but coming off is going to be a real chore.

Jackie

Hats off to you guys!!!!

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Geesh! To think of all the energy it takes to get off this med! Who'da thunk??

I don't know how you determine what's in that pill as it's a time released med, but who cares? I heard they made a 20mg. pill, but I have never seen it advertised. I'm just waiting for all this to come out in the medical news one of these days. Docs act like you have lost it when you tell them about the zaps, and no one has been able to explain it to me except to guess that it's from lack of chemicals in your brain that the meds we're producing.

I still like the med, whatever the side effects are at this point. I think coming off it would be difficult on top of managing all the things that are going on for me at this point. I only got a stomach ache going on, but coming off is going to be a real chore.

Jackie

Hats off to you guys!!!!

Well it's week two now and the brain zaps/vertigo are still there but have calmed down a bit. They usually come on when I'm sitting still for awhile. I am crossing my fingers they go away when I'm at week 3.

I have not felt depressed at all which is good. Just very emotional. Today I was watching another kid movie called "She's the man", and I teared up a bit. When this happens I usually laugh to myself and smile afterwards. So this is what it means to feel "human" again! Kinda like it. I really miss my emotions of years gone by.

I'll update you all for week 3.

Best,

Greg

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I'm glad you got back to tell us how you're feeling. I hope your emotions calm down. I know I lost all mine for months when I first went on meds and worried that they'd never come back, but they did; all except for crying. I don't...... Chemical restraints, I guess... I wasn't crying when the symptoms hit, either. Oh boy!!

Jackie

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Still on what seems like about 5mg. When I make a conscious effort to whip my eyes back and forth to test for brain zaps, I get a little of the unpleasant feeling, but not a ton. I'm hoping that my current ramp-down strategy will help keep the zaps at an acceptable level.

In the next few days I will be going down to an even smaller amount of Cymbalta -- probably about 3mg, and that will probably be my last stop before trying to cut it out completely. I anticipate about another week, total, of taking the drug.

Interestingly, when I first tried to get off it (cold turkey) the brain zaps were awful and I had a lot of anger, but I also had great energy. Going back on the drug (even at these lower levels) in order to try a more gradual taper-off has taken away that energy. It will be interesting to see whether I regain it again when I come off the drug fully for the second time, or whether it was just a side effect of the cold turkey approach. I know that right now my ability to run and participate in athletics is somewhat compromised.

Side note -- sometimes I notice people suggesting that SSRIs help athletes because it makes them less nervous. I always laugh when I see that. I guess it's possible that they help for some people, but for me, SSRIs have always completely destroyed my desire to run or participate in any athletic endeavor.

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I guess it would depend on which ssri they're talking about as there are ones for depression with anxiety and ones for people who get lethargic when depressed and have stimulating factors. I've been on both sides of the coin, and the ones for anxiety work best for me. Otherwise, I'd be swing off the walls with anxiety!

Keep me informed. Interesting!!!

Jackie

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I have been taking Cymbalta for about 11 months, for depression and major anxiety. It was a good drug for me, but I've found that 60 mgs is too strong, and 30 mgs is now more of an annoyance than a help. So for a while now I've been trying to taper off by an every other day dose at 30 mgs. This was okay, in that the day I didn't take it, I felt fine. But the day I did take the 30 mgs., I felt drugged, had less ability to concentrate and organize my life. So now I'm on my third day of not taking the med, and I'm feeling really dizzy--the vertigo thing, that others have mentioned. So far I haven't had brain zaps...but who knows? I may have to try to split the 30 mgs into half, as some have mentioned. I haven't discussed this with my M.D., which is probably not a good thing. But he'll probably want to keep me on the Cymbalta, which I don't want to be on if I can now handle life without it. I am a writer and I need to have some emotions in order to create--Cymbalta slows down my thinking process.

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I have been taking Cymbalta for about 11 months, for depression and major anxiety. It was a good drug for me, but I've found that 60 mgs is too strong, and 30 mgs is now more of an annoyance than a help. So for a while now I've been trying to taper off by an every other day dose at 30 mgs. This was okay, in that the day I didn't take it, I felt fine. But the day I did take the 30 mgs., I felt drugged, had less ability to concentrate and organize my life. So now I'm on my third day of not taking the med, and I'm feeling really dizzy--the vertigo thing, that others have mentioned. So far I haven't had brain zaps...but who knows? I may have to try to split the 30 mgs into half, as some have mentioned. I haven't discussed this with my M.D., which is probably not a good thing. But he'll probably want to keep me on the Cymbalta, which I don't want to be on if I can now handle life without it. I am a writer and I need to have some emotions in order to create--Cymbalta slows down my thinking process.

Not sure why I can't start a new topic, so I'm replying.

I'm getting into week 3 now of this and it's up and down. The brain zaps are still there, but usually in the evening when I sit down on the couch and move my eyes from one side to the other. The zaps also come with a rush of sound in my ears. It really is bothersome. I do think they are getting less severe. One a good note, my sex drive is back and that's a good thing since I'm dating.

Concentration and memory have been a bit of an issue lately and that did bring some depressing thoughts. I get scared to think if I'll never rebound to my full health and if I'll need to go back on meds for the rest of my life. Hopefully that's not the case. Oh.....Insomnia has been a problem as well along with some restless legs. It's the feeling like your legs nervous system is just out of control and you want to cut them off.

All sounds pretty bad huh. Well it is, but I'm still in this to stay off medication utilizing exercise, meditation, and a little faith. We'll just have to wait and see.

I'll keep posting until I either have to go back on meds or come around to full health without them.

Thanks for reading,

Best,

Greg

PS. Hopefully this log will help others in the future that are wondering if it's just them that experience these type of symtoms. I've been looking all over the web to see a success story and have not found on.

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Update...

I had been on about 5 mg (my estimate) for at least a week or two before I tried (once again) to stop entirely. Brain zaps reappeared the very night I tried to stop. Even at that low dosage, taking a pill made a difference.

I have now resorted to counting individual granules and preparing pills with them. That's right -- I count individual granules. And the amazing thing is that a 15-granule pill (not 15mg, I'm talking about 15 individual grains of the med) makes the difference between brain zaps and no brain zaps, for me. This is a bit frightening, to realize that such a minuscule dose can have such a profound effect -- and then to think that I was taking 60mg for awhile.

So, what now? I continue my somewhat ludicrous process of ramping down, and am now taking pills with merely 10 grains of medication. I will be tapering down to about 5 grains by Friday.

In the meantime, my sex drive and some energy has returned, but I feel anxious and bad overall. I don't blame the latter on withdrawal; I felt anxious and bad before. I do think there may be a difference of degree; hopefully in time I will improve somewhat, though again, since my emotions were problematic before I started the drug, I don't expect them to be perfect now. I am, however, still concerned about brain zaps, as I get them a little on these low doses, and expect to have still more problems when I finally get off this med completely. I hope they are not permanent.

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Update...

I had been on about 5 mg (my estimate) for at least a week or two before I tried (once again) to stop entirely. Brain zaps reappeared the very night I tried to stop. Even at that low dosage, taking a pill made a difference.

I have now resorted to counting individual granules and preparing pills with them. That's right -- I count individual granules. And the amazing thing is that a 15-granule pill (not 15mg, I'm talking about 15 individual grains of the med) makes the difference between brain zaps and no brain zaps, for me. This is a bit frightening, to realize that such a minuscule dose can have such a profound effect -- and then to think that I was taking 60mg for awhile.

So, what now? I continue my somewhat ludicrous process of ramping down, and am now taking pills with merely 10 grains of medication. I will be tapering down to about 5 grains by Friday.

In the meantime, my sex drive and some energy has returned, but I feel anxious and bad overall. I don't blame the latter on withdrawal; I felt anxious and bad before. I do think there may be a difference of degree; hopefully in time I will improve somewhat, though again, since my emotions were problematic before I started the drug, I don't expect them to be perfect now. I am, however, still concerned about brain zaps, as I get them a little on these low doses, and expect to have still more problems when I finally get off this med completely. I hope they are not permanent.

Grape,

Those zaps won't be permanent. Otherwise I'd start a coalition to sue Lilly. It's getting better for me. Less and less each day.

Again, it's mostly at night now. In fact I just looked up from the computer quickly and "yep" there they are. It's not as intense however.

I remember looking off the porch today and just feeling a flood of emotion over looking at the sky. A sense of feeling "alive" as opposed to drugged. A sense of just feeling human again. And that's even feeling bad. It's amazing when you understand that feeling bad can be a good thing. It means something is important to you. And that's great.

Anyway, I'll be posting again at the end of the week on my progress.

Hang in there Grape, we are in this together right now. I'm so glad to not be alone in this.

Best,

Greg

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Should be careful dropping with any medication. I tapered zoloft too fast, which lead to nasty side effects, horrible depression, and I tried ******* myself. Praying for you, good luck with everything.

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Hi there, Newbie here. I've been on Cymbalta for a little over a year now. It helped me when I needed it. Just wish I'd known what was awaiting me on the backend now that I want to get off the drug.

This seems to be the most helpful forum yet. I'm getting ready to begin my journey through this withdrawal process and opening up the capsule sounds like a great idea that I will try. Thank you for the specifics and which end to hold down and which to remove. Haven't seen my pdoc and discussed this with him. I only see him for meds anyway, as I was seeing a counselor for "talk therapy" which I haven't seen in a while either, and feel that I am through my issues and doing way better on that front. By pdoc, I'm assuming you guys mean the Psychologist prescribing the meds. My insurance doesn't cover him at $100 per 20 minute med check so it's been out of pocket!

I figure summer is a good time since there's lots of sun and things to do and I have a new interest in my life that I'm diving into. As a women, I'm also getting ready to start on the womens nutritional program offered at womentowomen.com website. Us women need hormonal/endocrine support. I will be starting that program at the same time as I start tapering off the Cymbalta. I'm hoping that will help offset some of the symptoms.

Please tell me more about the raw food/detox plan. I'd love to hear more about natural ways to combat this withdrawal thing.

What exactly is this "zap" thing? Can you describe it fully other than it seems to happen upon quick eye movement?

Thanks for being here. :hearts:

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