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aberCoreyfitch
post Jun 20 2005, 01:16 PM
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I keep having these strange occurances during the morning in the bed..  all of a sudden I can't move but I can still see, I start hearing people talk like in a conversation, then I hear the toilet in the bathroom flush several times then I'm seeing weird shapes in the air.

When I'm trying to go to sleep voice and pictures in my head won't leave me along, they talk to me and ask for advice. One of the voices that call herself Vickie terrorizes me at night and make me paranoid of everything... I don't want to talk to my doctor about this cause he'll thing I'm crazy, but I'm not i"m just a 22 year college student trying to be successful.

I'm on Geodon, Cymbalta, Wellbutrin, Desyrel... Maybe it's them?  :verysad3:
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Antidepressants and antipsychotics, yea I would say they probably have a role in what you are experienceing. If I may, Why are you taking them?
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Corey,

I do not think your physician will think you are mad or crazy. It may not be a good combo for you and he needs to know this and adjust your medications as we all are different and have different reactions to them.  That is why we 'hire' them for!  That is what tney are there for.   wwww.gif To monitor our meds!
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post Jun 20 2005, 05:31 PM
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I taking both Cymbalta and Wellbutrin for depression, Atarax for anxiety, desyrel to sleep, Geodon for bipolar disorder... Experiencing this is so scary, I'm scared to be alone with myself now.
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post Jun 20 2005, 05:34 PM
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Have you ever had symptoms like this, before?


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post Jun 20 2005, 05:40 PM
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I've had it a few times doing childhood.. it's getting more intense now.
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Corey,,We can move your Topic to the Bipolar Forum or the anxiety Forum so it can get more exposure to members..which would you prefer and would you please call your Dr!  For me?

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If you've had this experience before, chances are, it's not your meds... is bipolar disorder your only diagnosis?  And what was happening before, in your childhood when this happened?  What is happening now, that is stressful that might trigger you?
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Cory, If you come back on, go to the E.R. and have them help you.  You are having a bad med reaction.  We can't help you with this one.


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(((((Corey)))))

We do care about you!  We will give you all the support and encouragement we can.  

But you MUST talk to a doctor!  Maybe this can be fixed easily, but it could be more serious.  You deserve to feel better!  Please, call your doctor or go to a hospital, okay??  And then let us know how you are doing.  Like I said, we care about you!  :)

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post Jun 20 2005, 06:44 PM
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I was diagnoise with bipolar, personality disorder and major depression. This has occured many times in my childhood at night. I do remember vividly of seeing a old man in my rocking chair in front of my bed. During my late teens I would experience these voices and pictures. I didn't want to talk anyone about it cause the first thing people think is that you are crazy. It's happening more often now and more intense these voices are talking to me, telling me what I should do, and asking me for advice for them. Last night one of the voices asked me to go to Home Depot with her. The thing that is more scarier about this is that I can differentiate between the males and females.  One of the voices that call herself Vickie trys to scare me while I'm awake at night, I get paranoid about the carpet, I think my roommate is plotting to kill me, the sink is going to drown me. All of this is so scary, I hate being alone with myself now even though I'm an only child and used to it. I just don't know why this is all happening to me. I got fired for my 3 year job at Abercrombie & Fitch for being distraut, depressed and thinking everyone else was stealing. I'm currently about to start an office job. I just don't know why all this is happening me, it is so scary. I'm scared of the doctors cause the have other intentions Thank you all for talking with me about it. I know I can't go on like this. I have to figure out how to deal with the voices bothering me
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Corey,

The way to deal with this IS to talk to a doctor!  You have already been diagnosed with various mental problems, and it is not unusual for new or more severe problems to develop when a person is in their early 20s, as you are.

THIS DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE CRAZY!!!  This means you have an illness, just like if you had heart trouble, and you need and deserve to get proper medical care for your illness.

Another symptom of some mental problems is feeling paranoid, thinking that other people (even doctors) might be out to get you.  I'm sorry if you are feeling like that, but please understand that is not true.

PLEASE, please go to the nearest emergency room or call 911 right now.  There IS help for you; you just have to seek it out.  I'm very concerned!  Please??!!

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post Jun 20 2005, 07:17 PM
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I saw my pyshiatrist today and I see my therapist tomorrow. I guess I will tell her. My doctor up my Geodon.
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You need to call your doc and be honest with him about these symptoms.  He can't help you out unless you call him.  They don't have other intentions.  If you don't get some help while you are still rational and know what is going on, what do you think will happen?  Who is going to speak for you then?

You know that you are experiencing are symptoms of a relapse, and you know that you need to get help.  We all want you to call 911 or your doc and get this taken care of, now.


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post Jun 20 2005, 07:24 PM
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Abercoreyfiltch, Please understand that your Doctor only wants to help you establish as normal of a lifestyle as possible. I am DID. I have been since i was an early teen. One thing I have learned to do to counteract what my voices are telling me is to realize that they are not real. To this day i stil listen to them and make mitakes like mistrust. Believe me, not everyome out there is out to get you. Doctors and psychiatrist are there to help you without prejudice. I used to have waking nightmares when I was a kid. I would wake up and be frozen in place as some entity crawled up my torso. it caused panic and anxiety in me but what I realized was that it was all in my mind and once I realized that, I was able to control what happened to me the next time I had one of those episodes. from then on, I never had one of those episodes again. Like I hinted at above, it could be yuor medications exacerbating what you already are experiencing in your mind.

I wa diagnosed with bipolar and or manic depression when I was a kid. (8y's o) I taught myself how to over come that. It doesn't mean I am not bipolar anymore, it just means that i have an ability to control it when I hit certain phases of the disorder. The reprocussions of that is some people now call me Spock, or Cerebral. I don't wish that upon you or anybody anymore than I wish someone to be bipolar. i never got thereapy for it when I was young. I regret that. I don't want you to regret it now. So like so many people here who have responded with the same theme, trust your phychiatrist. He or she is there to help you. They can put you on medications that will silence those voices. The only way to get help is if you take the time to think about what your "people" are saying and realize that they too are in self preservation mode. They are not going to want you to get help because that would mean the end to them. Truth is, the end to them is the beginning of you. Who you are, what you want instead of them.
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In my experience, it is the ones who don't get help who get hospitalized. The ones who get help are the ones who remain out here in the free world. Free as it is anyway.
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post Jun 20 2005, 07:28 PM
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Okay.. When I'm seeing my therapist tomorrow I'll tell her and I guess she could tell the doctor for me. I don't want them to put me in the hospital. That's what I'm scared of. Thank you all.. I really want these voices to leave me alone. I'm already on a lot of meds right now. I guess a another one that could stop it would be worth it. Thank you all even though you don't know me personally you all have been a great help
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post Jun 20 2005, 07:29 PM
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Thanks I will get help. I don't want to go crazy to the point I have not control of my life. This is all so scary.
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Fmadhadder, how are you dealing with the disassociation identity disorder. Initially that's what the docotor put me on Geodon for, later I know told it was to help my bipolar since I stopped Depakote cause of the sexual side effects
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post Jun 20 2005, 07:37 PM
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Cory, they can't hospitalize you unless you are a danger to yourself or others.  You don't sound like a danger.  You are aware that you are having increased symptoms. Having hallucinations doesn't get you into the hospital.  Being unaware that you are hallucinating and reacting to them does.  Get help ASAP.  Don't let this go on any longer than it has to.  We think a lot about you and don't want to hear that you got really sick and had to be admitted.  

I wish you would have a better relationship with your doc.  Maybe you will in the future.  You have to trust your doc, Cory.  He has nothing to gain by putting you in a hospital.  Being  honest with your doc is a big step, but you're not doing any favors by playing 'the good patient'.  You are doing yourself a big disservice, and you are now finding out..   hearts.gif


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I quit taking Depakote because whenever i take anything it seems like, I get side effects. especially antidepressants. These side effects make me violent, or they enable me to  do bad things I would not ordinarily do. Right now i don't take anything for my disorders. I physically live alone and wait for the punishment that would not have been due me if I had not been on those medicines. That is not to say everyone gets these effects from the drugs, I am just highly suseptible to them. Have you ever seen " A beautiful Mind"? I am not schitzo but the idea is the same. make no mistake reading this. I spend a lot of time proof reading my own work because not all of me can spell. I began to research vitamins and minerals years ago and I employ that to aide in my recovery, so to speak. I too am paranoid of others. I have major trust issues, and my voices tell me to do very dangerous things. Not everyone can do this. So please don't make thwe mistake of thinking you can do this. If you can... great. But i wouldn't suggest trying it unless you understand some rather primitive concepts about what is going on and can handle the day to day hinderance that such a move affords. I am glad to read that you are going to tell your therapist about what is happening. You are makihe right move. By the way, it took me ove half an hour to post this.
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I know my granddad has schizophenia, make dad doesn't, and I refuse the idea of the genes. I believe people decide how they want to be, like I'm gay, I plan on becoming straight soon and plan to get married. I hate to think I got this from my grandfather. He experience voices and solitude also. but I know I'm different cause my dad is. I do plan on getting help since these voices and pictures are driving me nuts. I hate for anyone to experience what I'm going through and I hope anyone else won't.
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Unfortunately, science is proving your belief wrong my friend. You can't choose to be schitzophrenic. It is a disorder that grows even before you are aware of it being there. Science has proven that this disorder can skip a generation and it is not a guarentee that those who have ancestors with this disorder are guarenteed to get it. Science just shows that the likelyhood of someone getting it increases dramatically when there is someone in the family who has it. Being Gay on the other hand, is still highly controversial when it comes to nature verses nurture. I am bisexual for example. I really am. My experience in life anabled me to make the choice to be this way. I am married to a woman and enjoy a heterosexual lifestyle, however, there are tendancies inside myself that I choose to control because I respect that relationship with my wife.

If you are schitzophrenic ( and I suspect you are) this is nothing to be afraid of publically. there are plenty of meds out there to help you to control it. It is just a matter of finding the right combination that works for you. maybe you developed your circumstances on your own. It could happen. But don't discount the possability that this is inherited. It really doesn't matter which way you believe, What matters is that it is there.
My uncle had schitzophrenia. No one else in my family got it. I still am not convinced that I don't have it. But I know I don't have the sympoms that accompany this disorder. Not all of them anyway. I have bipolar, and Disassociative Identity Disorder. Talk about conflict of interests.
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Well.. A lot of times I feel like I'm just flowing through life. I don't feel connected to my body I feel like a spirit and free from my stupid body that makes me experience everything. I zone out all the time maybe it could be Add maybe not I don't know it's too expensives to get that tested, I do feel like I can be somewhere else if I want to be and often time that happens cause maybe one of Atlanta metro traffic problem is me. Hitting people and curbs, signs I even hit the gas tube last week. I don't heard the voices while driving thank God. so much else is going on, I get depressed over the smallest things and people, I just hate bringing people down around me cause I would hate for someone to be gloomy around me all the time too I think. I know I'm going to be up all night, my friend is in Chicago for a week and I hate being in the dark cause a lot of unatural things happen to me. I will tell my therapist tomorrow, I trust her, I don't trust the doctor cause he has me on so many medicines now.
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:hearts:oh corey, i'm so sorry about all this. as JKM said it lands you in the hospital when you are unaware that your hallucinating and act on them. that's what happen to me. i was only in the hospital for 4 days. they got my meds. changed. i've not heard the voices since. ok except if the tv is on it sounds like people having a conversation about me. can't really make it out. please tell your therapist or doctor. oh, wecome to the forum.


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Please let everyone know how things go with your therapist. I hope that she's able to help you out. We're all thinking of you.
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Corey,

We are looking forward to hearing what your therapist had to say today.  Keep making good choices to help yourself get better!  

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Hi, aberCoreyfitch.  I would like to jump into this discussion if I may.  I have a great deal of empathy for you as I have had many of the symptoms you describe.  I am diagnosed bipolar I with psychotic features.  My psychosis manifests itself primarily as auditory hallucinations.  They got so bad a few months ago that I almost lost the battle for control over myself if that makes sense to you.  For me, the early stages of psychosis start as mild voices.  Then things get worse and the voices start demanding that I do things and make life miserable for me if I try to fight it.  This is generally where I lose my grip on realityand just start doing what they say to avoid the torture of trying to fight them.

I also experience visual things that my doctor and I don't quite agree on.  I see what I believe are auras and he thinks I am seeing visual hallucinations.  I think we have just agreed to disagree on that topic.

I guess what I really want to say is that I have experienced the same things that you are now and to let you know that I am around to help you if I can.  Others have told you that you need to call your pdoc or go to the emergency room if you feel like something is badly wrong.  I agree with this very much.  We are here to support you, but there is only so much help we can offer before you really need to seek professional help.  Don't worry about someone labeling you as "crazy".  Your pdoc and docs in an emergency room have probably seen this type of thing hundreds if not thousands of times.

Regarding your medication...  Don't be afraid to talk to and question your pdoc about the meds he/she has you taking.  We all react differently to different meds and it could be the case that you have not yet found the combo that works for you.  Sometimes you just have to be stubborn with your doc.

Regarding hospitals...  As a rule, I have found in my personal experience that your pdoc will not have you admitted to the hospital unless he/she feels you are a danger to yourself or others.  If you are really feeling bad and think you would benefit from some time at a mental hospital, you can always go directly to the hospital and ask to be evaluated for admission.  You should beware though that the hospital might put you on a mandatory 72 hour hold to evaluate you.  I never had a problem with this as I planned to stay longer than 72 hours anyhow.

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The problem with taking multiple drugs and having bad side effects is that only one maybe the culprit and the doctor can't know which one until the alter them all in some way and then it is still a watch and see. If it is just one med, then it is a guessing game which one it is. they might pull you off of them one at a time over a period of time and replace them with something else to see what happens.
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One more thing I can add about the hospital is that they can make more dramatic changes to your meds since you are under 24 hour care.  At the hospital I spent time at, you also got to see the pdoc every day.  

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I want to thank everyone for the support. When I saw my therapist today I told her about the voices and the pictures and she didn't make me feel crazy at all.. She asked me a lot of questions about what I am experincing and how to deal with it. She told me to call 911 if they tell me to harm myself. I didn't get to see my doctor today, but I saw another one.. she said she didn't want to rule out the Geodon and switch me to another antipyscotic drug.. She increased my dosage very high.. and she told me I should see a difference by thursday and no later than saturday. She also told me if I'm still hearing the voices to maybe check myself into the hospital so they can get down to the bottom of everything. Somehow still I know I wouldn't want to check in. I'm really glad I let them know about the voices cause I really want them to stop bothering me. Thank you all so very much. I will let everyone know how it works out in the days to come.
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I'm glad things went well for you today.  You really have to open up and be honest with your therapist and pdoc in order for them to help you.  I'm happy for you that you seem to be getting the care that you need right now.

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WONDERFUL, Corey!!!  I'm so glad you shared everything with your therapist, and are working with a doctor on med changes.  Hopefully you will feel better very soon.  If it takes some time, though, don't give up.  There IS help for you; you deserve to feel much better.  And follow your therapist's advice - if the voices get bad or are telling you to hurt yourself, definitely call 911.  It will work out fine, and you know we will be here to support you also.

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See!  This worked out an no hospital.  Please think about the value of being honest with your doc in the future.  As consumers of the mental health services, we learn from these situations how to get the good care we deserve.

Try to get some well deserved rest, Cory.  I know you have to be very tired.  I hope the voices diminish as the days go by.  Remember that the symptoms can't hurt you; that is in your and your docs hands.


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