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#644224 Remember - It's Depression

Posted by budfox on 03 July 2010 - 09:55 PM

I was going to write this post as a journal entry to myself as I'm feeling very low and panicky at the moment. However on the off-chance that it might be of benefit to some of the good, nay great, folks on DF I thought I might as well post it here.

I read a lot of the posts on this forum and one very common feature of what people are going through is the fear and panic they feel at what is happening to them. Browse through the posts and you will see a lot of, 'I don't know what's happening', 'Something is not right', 'I'm losing my mind', etc. I've made similar statements in some of my previous posts on this very forum in the past.

Even though I've suffered from depression for more than 10 years I am still freaking out at how bad I'm feeling right now. Surely by now I should be an expert at managing this? I have had enough experience after all.

So, this is what I'm trying to tell myself (and for what it's worth I know this to be totally true, it's just that depression sometimes casts a dark fog over our thinking):

For all the terrible symptoms it produces we are all suffering from the SAME basic condition. Of course depression and anxiety affect us uniquely, such is the nature of a disease of the most amazing and complex system known to man, the human brain. However, even though we probably all feel like we are going through something totally personal to us, and I don't deny that in a sense we are, essentially we're all suffering from the same underlying illness, caused by abnormal changes in our brain neurochemistry.

The reason none of us can just 'snap out' of depression is that it's an absolutely real illness. Stop thinking of the symptoms you are experiencing as being a manifest reflection of something that is deeply wrong with you. You're just ill. In the future they will be able to precisely elucidate the neurochemical changes that are going on within the brain. For now, they have kind of a rough idea of what's going on but not much more than that.

Some days I wake up and can hardly get out of bed. I mean that quite literally. I feel numb to everything, no energy, utter hopelessness for the future and no interest in anybody or anything. Then a day later I can wake up and feel totally normal. Nothing in my life circumstances has changed from the bad day to the good day, it just so happens that for some reason that is inexplicable to me on the first day my neurochemistry is screwed up and on the second day it is within normal ranges.

So whatever weird, horrifying, disturbing symptoms you are suffering from please try to remember that you're just ill. If it was an illness of the body you would feel pain or you would have difficulty walking or impaired vision. However, because illnesses like diabetes, arthritis, etc affect organs other than the brain the symptoms they produce, while they can of course be very serious, are still more uniform and less confounding than an illness which affects the brain, an organ many many times more complex than anything else in these bodies of ours.

If you feel totally down or anxious when reading this then just accept that there is little that you can do about the way you feel right now to feel instantly better, although of course things like exercise and certain fast acting medications can help greatly. But also know that your brain chemistry is in flux and you are not going to carry on feeling like this forever. There's no point trying to analyse the way you feel or trying to think the way out of your depression, anymore than it would make sense to try and think your way out of diabetes. The depression or anxiety is there, it is making you feel so bad and when it goes you will feel better. I realise that we might all have developed depression for different reasons but I doubt there is one person on this forum that can say that his or her life circumstances are absolutely unique and that the life he or she has gone through is worse than that experienced by many of the millions of people who go through terrible things but don't ever develop depression.

Accept that the depression or anxiety is there for now, stop thinking about it and learn to function as best you can even with the worst depression or anxiety that you have ever felt. And take hope in the knowledge that this will get better.

Many posters are also blaming themselves for something that is not in the least their fault and saying things like 'I feel like a loser', 'I don't feel worthy', etc, etc. I say to you 'Nonsense!!!' You are just ill. In fact you are more worthy than most because you're dealing with a horrible illness and still managing to keep going. Most of you deserve medals, I tell you that. You're soldiers. Yet because our society is so nasty and backwards, we are still expected to function as well as people who don't have depression at all. When I think about how I am, I mean how functional I am on a good day as compared to a bad day, the gulf between the two is massive. The bad day Bud cannot possibly hope to compete with the good day Bud. It's like trying to be in a fight with someone with one hand tied behind your back. So be realistic and don't be too hard on yourselves. When you're down then do what you can but don't expect too much. Be gentle. As for what everyone in your company or your social circle thinks, to hell with them. They're not experiencing this and you are. Human beings like to go around feeling superior to others and judgmental, especially in modern workplaces. Their lack of sympathy, empathy or understanding is a sad reflection on them, not on you. I tell you you are all wonderful people and it pains me to see you suffer. Well maybe right at the moment you can't help the suffering but you can avoid compounding it.

Let's support each other through this and take the view that we are in it together. Know that if you post here you'll get a reply, so however incapable of understanding people in your lives might be, you'll always have this forum to come to. I don't know about you but I at least find great solace in that.

Thanks for listening.

B
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#965148 An Inspiring Message From One Of Our Members

Posted by Forum Admin on 04 February 2013 - 01:09 PM

'budfox', on 03 Jul 2010 - 23:03, said:snapback.png


I was going to write this post as a journal entry to myself as I'm
feeling very low and panicky at the moment. However on the off-chance
that it might be of benefit to some of the good, nay great, folks on DF I
thought I might as well post it here.

I read a lot of the posts
on this forum and one very common feature of what people are going
through is the fear and panic they feel at what is happening to them.
Browse through the posts and you will see a lot of, 'I don't know what's
happening', 'Something is not right', 'I'm losing my mind', etc. I've
made similar statements in some of my previous posts on this very forum
in the past.

Even though I've suffered from depression for more
than 10 years I am still freaking out at how bad I'm feeling right now.
Surely by now I should be an expert at managing this? I have had enough
experience after all.

So, this is what I'm trying to tell myself
(and for what it's worth I know this to be totally true, it's just that
depression sometimes casts a dark fog over our thinking):

For all
the terrible symptoms it produces we are all suffering from the SAME
basic condition. Of course depression and anxiety affect us uniquely,
such is the nature of a disease of the most amazing and complex system
known to man, the human brain. However, even though we probably all feel
like we are going through something totally personal to us, and I don't
deny that in a sense we are, essentially we're all suffering from the
same underlying illness, caused by abnormal changes in our brain
neurochemistry.

The reason none of us can just 'snap out' of
depression is that it's an absolutely real illness. Stop thinking of the
symptoms you are experiencing as being a manifest reflection of
something that is deeply wrong with you. You're just ill. In the future
they will be able to precisely elucidate the neurochemical changes that
are going on within the brain. For now, they have kind of a rough idea
of what's going on but not much more than that.

Some days I wake
up and can hardly get out of bed. I mean that quite literally. I feel
numb to everything, no energy, utter hopelessness for the future and no
interest in anybody or anything. Then a day later I can wake up and feel
totally normal. Nothing in my life circumstances has changed from the
bad day to the good day, it just so happens that for some reason that is
inexplicable to me on the first day my neurochemistry is screwed up and
on the second day it is within normal ranges.

So whatever weird,
horrifying, disturbing symptoms you are suffering from please try to
remember that you're just ill. If it was an illness of the body you
would feel pain or you would have difficulty walking or impaired vision.
However, because illnesses like diabetes, arthritis, etc affect organs
other than the brain the symptoms they produce, while they can of course
be very serious, are still more uniform and less confounding than an
illness which affects the brain, an organ many many times more complex
than anything else in these bodies of ours.

If you feel totally
down or anxious when reading this then just accept that there is little
that you can do about the way you feel right now to feel instantly
better, although of course things like exercise and certain fast acting
medications can help greatly. But also know that your brain chemistry is
in flux and you are not going to carry on feeling like this forever.
There's no point trying to analyse the way you feel or trying to think
the way out of your depression, anymore than it would make sense to try
and think your way out of diabetes. The depression or anxiety is there,
it is making you feel so bad and when it goes you will feel better. I
realise that we might all have developed depression for different
reasons but I doubt there is one person on this forum that can say that
his or her life circumstances are absolutely unique and that the life he
or she has gone through is worse than that experienced by many of the
millions of people who go through terrible things but don't ever develop
depression.

Accept that the depression or anxiety is there for
now, stop thinking about it and learn to function as best you can even
with the worst depression or anxiety that you have ever felt. And take
hope in the knowledge that this will get better.

Many posters are
also blaming themselves for something that is not in the least their
fault and saying things like 'I feel like a loser', 'I don't feel
worthy', etc, etc. I say to you 'Nonsense!!!' You are just ill. In fact
you are more worthy than most because you're dealing with a horrible
illness and still managing to keep going. Most of you deserve medals, I
tell you that. You're soldiers. Yet because our society is so nasty and
backwards, we are still expected to function as well as people who don't
have depression at all. When I think about how I am, I mean how
functional I am on a good day as compared to a bad day, the gulf between
the two is massive. The bad day Bud cannot possibly hope to compete
with the good day Bud. It's like trying to be in a fight with someone
with one hand tied behind your back. So be realistic and don't be too
hard on yourselves. When you're down then do what you can but don't
expect too much. Be gentle. As for what everyone in your company or your
social circle thinks, to hell with them. They're not experiencing this
and you are. Human beings like to go around feeling superior to others
and judgmental, especially in modern workplaces. Their lack of sympathy,
empathy or understanding is a sad reflection on them, not on you. I
tell you you are all wonderful people and it pains me to see you suffer.
Well maybe right at the moment you can't help the suffering but you can
avoid compounding it.

Let's support each other through this and
take the view that we are in it together. Know that if you post here
you'll get a reply, so however incapable of understanding people in your
lives might be, you'll always have this forum to come to. I don't know
about you but I at least find great solace in that.

Thanks for listening.

B


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#923370 Generic Antidepressant Not Equivalent To Original Wellbutrin: Fda

Posted by Forum Admin on 07 October 2012 - 01:16 PM

Generic antidepressant not equivalent to original Wellbutrin: FDA

Sat, Oct 6 2012
(Reuters) - The U.S. Food and Drug Administration said new data indicate that the generic version of the popular antidepressant Wellbutrin is not equivalent to the original drug manufactured by GlaxoSmithKline.
Budeprion XL 300 mg, or bupropion hydrochloride extended-release tablets, are manufactured by Impax Laboratories Inc and marketed by Teva Pharmaceuticals USA Inc.
The FDA, in a notice posted on its website on Wednesday, said it has changed the therapeutic equivalence rating for the product in the agency's Approved Drug Products with Therapeutic Equivalence Evaluations to show that Budeprion XL 300 mg fails to demonstrate therapeutic equivalence to Wellbutrin XL 300 mg.
Impax has requested that the FDA withdraw approval of budeprion XL 300 mg extended-release tablets, the FDA said. Impax and Teva have stopped shipping the product, the agency said. (Reporting by Debra Sherman; Editing by Will Dunham)


http://www.reuters.com
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#632777 Introducing Yourself

Posted by Forum Admin on 23 May 2010 - 12:43 PM

If you're new to our DF community, taking the step for the first time to post publicly to a message board can sometimes seem daunting, intimidating. Don't be afraid to jump into a discussion once you have registered with us.
We have a very supportive community that serves up heavy doses of support, encouragement and enthusiasm. We love meeting new people and being friendly. While we hope that you'll become an active participant and join in our discussions, you're welcome, of course, to simply hang out silently until you feel more comfortable posting a message.
We are your safe haven and will never judge you. There is no stigma here. You are not alone.

This Welcome Forum is for a short Introduction to our members/community. Just click on "New Topic" at the top of the forum to intro yourself. It is not intended to tell your story or to journal/Blog. That is saved for the other forums or for your Blog here at the DF which you may create.

***As a new member, you will have the ability to create two active topics in each Forum. You may reply to as many as you wish.
Click on "New Topic" or you may "Reply" to an ongoing post. You will get the hang of it if you have never posted in a forum before.


*An active topic is defined as a topic that is on the front page of our busier forums or a topic that has received replies in the last 48 hours in our quieter Forums.
If you are in major crisis you may post your topic in MNESN (DEPRESSION - MNESN - Members Needing Extra Support Now!).

If you are uncertain how to get around the forums, please click on the HELP button on the upper right of the page. :shocked:

Posting - How to Reply To A Post or Start a New Topic in a Forum
"Reply to a Post" or Start a "New Topic"
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#644254 Remember - It's Depression

Posted by budfox on 04 July 2010 - 12:14 AM

Henri,

I'm really glad that this post helped, even if only a tiny bit.

It's taken me years to realise the truth of my post. I remember when I had my first (and worst) episode of depression. It was during exams and I was in a terrible, terrible way. What made it even worse was looking at the smiling faces around me and just thinking I was the biggest loser freak to be feeling so utterly despondent and hopeless. How could they cope with the same stress so easily, while I was so destroyed?

Since that time I have found out that many people I have looked up to as being able to cope with anything have actually gone through periods of serious depression themselves. I admire them all the more for it.

For someone who is really depressed or anxious just getting through the day is a massive achievement. Anything we do on top of it should make us really proud of ourselves. That is not to say that I think we should set the bar low. I think people with depression and anxiety are capable of doing remarkable things - all you need to do is to look at the list of famous depression and anxiety sufferers to see that. However there will be periods, sometimes long periods when we're not capable of all that much.

I do think that acceptance of depression, which means recognising that we are sick and therefore less able to operate (be it in a social, work or relationship context), is part of the cure.

I have enormous respect for everyone that posts on this forum because I can see how tough it is to live the lives we are living. Hopefully those lives will return to normal quickly but I know that for some people, myself included, depression is chronic and so we have to learn to live with it, while still taking appropriate steps to vanquish it.

The irony is that a lot of the people out there who truly are worthless probably never even feel worthless for one minute!! There really are some bad human beings out there, wanton in their greed and selfishness. But, not getting a college degree because the depression made it impossible does not make you worthless. Having to go off sick from or quit a job because the anxiety was too much to cope with in a stressful work environment does not make you worthless. Finding it difficult to sustain a loving relationship because every interaction with your partner is coloured by your depression does not make you worthless. Being unable to form or maintain friendships or have confidence with people you're attracted to does not make you worthless.

None of these things make you worthless. In my view the only thing that makes someone worthless is intentionally inflicting emotional or physical pain on another human being, or in my opinion animal, and never stopping to think twice about it until the day you die.

You know that old saying, 'If you think you might be crazy you're probably not?'. Well I think it would be equally true to say 'If you think you might be worthless you're most likely not'. The fact that you are questioning you're own worth means that you're trying and sometimes failing and having to go through hell. That in itself shows enormous worth and spirt. Take pride in it.
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#387179 New Members Please Read

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#1088514 The "how Do You Feel Right Now?" Thread

Posted by Sammycat0609 on 17 July 2014 - 10:02 AM

I feel like I am never going to get well. i feel like I am drowning. I feel like I'm letting those closest to me down. I am sick and tired of feeling this way. I want to be well. I want to enjoy my life and feel happy about all of the good things in it. I want to be happy. I deserve to be happy. I want this pain to end. I want to wake up tomorrow feeling hopeful and full of energy. I want to live, rather than just exist.

 

Thanks for listening.


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#1066770 A Positive Thread!

Posted by InfinateandDistant on 01 May 2014 - 03:31 PM

           I know there are some folks here that don't want to leave their homes because of various reasons. I, on the other hand, sort of can't leave home. Don't anyone freak out. I'm not being held hostage or anything. I just don't have the means or resources to get out of the house. Most of it is due to not having the cash to go. I'll admit that I haven't always had the nice, easy-going demeanor I have now. Back in the day I was very outspoken. My mouth and language has cost me more than a few jobs and a lot of friendships. 

          

           I don't want it to seem that I'm bragging. I have been battling the war with depression for at least 20 years. In the past 20 years I have done a lot of self prescribed medications. Drinking beer, liquor and smoking a lot of pot. Needless to say, those things didn't workout that well. Especially when the best 1 was illegal. But now that I'm on disability, I am on a upswing with my depression. Life hasn't been too bad since this past December.

          

           The only problem I'm having is my being the only 1 home for like 10 to 12 hours a day, awake, without any human communication or contact. That's 1 of the reasons I joined this forum. I read a lot of your posts and feel sympathy. I'll admit I joined for my own selfish reasons just like most of you.

          

           I'm starting this new thread as a positive swing in this forum. I'd like for whoever reads this to reply with something positive that personally happened to them today and everyday if they can find the time. I've learned with my depression and anxiety issues that if I try to think positive and find positive things to concentrate on, the bad doesn't seem to be as horrible or deflating. I'd like to say thank you to all of you for allowing me to join this great forum and I pray that all of you find peace.


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#1073176 If You

Posted by Lindsay on 25 May 2014 - 04:23 PM

If you’re feeling suicidal, please read this.

Leave a reply

 

I originally wrote this for World Suicide Prevention Day. It is aimed towards someone who may be considering taking steps towards ending their own lives. If this is you please read on and I hope that you can find something in these words that makes you see that your life is precious.

 

I may not know you personally but if I could I would reach out and hug you first and foremost. You may feel alone in this world and like there is no point in carrying on but this is simply not true. While I don’t know you, the fact that you are struggling and feeling like this is the only option shows me that you are a person who can feel things so deeply and I believe that whatever you may have done there is at least one person who does care deeply for you. If you can not think of one then let me tell you that I care about you. If I didn’t I wouldn’t be writing this.

 

If you are still reading then thank you for not turning and running . That shows that within you there is strength to confront what you are feeling and also hope that maybe there is something else you can do to avoid this, what to you may feel like is the only, course of action. You are doing so well just reading this and trying to see if there is something you can do and I hope you can hold on to this however tiny it may seem. Thank you for still reading. I’m now going to offer you some things you may like to do before you go any further. You don’t have to do them but I hope there is one thing here that may help you. Here they are:

 

Call, text or email someone, explaining how you feel, if you can. This could be a friend, relative, medical professional or a charity helpline. The Samaritans offer non-judgmental advice 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

Take a bath or shower and try to relax for an hour. In this time try to think about yourself and treat yourself with respect.

Write one thing that you can do. It may be that you can take some lovely photographs, it may be that you make a brilliant meal or it might be that you always make yourself available to others. There is, I’m sure, one thing that you can do.

Do that one thing that you can do.

Go for a walk if you feel that you can do so while still remaining safe, If possible make sure that someone knows where you will be going and how long you plan to be. This gives you a chance to roam in mind as well as body but still keep in mind that people are waiting and wanting you.

Draw, write or do something creative. Don’t worry about how it turns out.

Exercise. Maybe lift weights or run.

Sleep.

I hope there is something there you can do. I hope upon hope that the first option is the one you choose. I believe that other people are our biggest weapon in fighting the thoughts that are currently pushing you to your limits.

 

You still reading? Great. You’re doing really well to keep going and I’m proud of you. Truly proud of you. I know how hard it is to get this low but you’re still with me and that is a massive positive. I hope the intensity of your suicidal feelings is subsiding slightly or you have managed to find something to hold on for until you can get the support you deserve, and yes you do deserve it no matter what your brain is telling you. You are on this planet and that makes you special. There is probably someone, you may not know who, but someone who loves you and is glad you are alive. I’m glad you are alive as I know you have huge potential if you have made it this far, think about it you’ve read all this written by me; that is an accomplishment.

 

I’m going to leave you now. I hope you make the decision to live. I know it is a big decision to make and may seem scary but I believe that it is the best decision you can make as it holds so much opportunity for the future. Please get help and if you feel that you are at immediate risk of hurting yourself then I ask you to go to Accident and Emergency so that you can be kept safe. You deserve to be safe and happy.

Thank you for reading and know that I am thinking of you and hoping you can see the good in you that others can. One last hug.

 

*hugs*

 


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#913159 Answers To Curing Anhedonia/numbness/apathy, No. 1

Posted by itstrevor on 05 September 2012 - 01:50 AM

I would like to start this thread for everyone to share their experiences with anhedonia (emotional numbness, inability to experience pleasure, apathy, dead sex drive, etc.) so that we may all collectively find the best solutions. The more experiences we have here, the easier it will be to make connections and narrow down useful strategies/medications/solutions, We all need to work together on this.

I would like to add my personal experience with anhedonia and what I have discovered about it along the way. I have been anhedonic now for 10 months due to major depression triggered by chronic stress. Anhedonia is my only persistent symptom and is occurring in the absence of any other depressive symptom (I do not feel "depressed," I do not "feel" at all). For this reason, many people experiencing anhedonia (me included) find fault with the technical association with "anhedonia" being only a symptom of another disease rather than a syndrome in itself. Firstly, what I have noticed about every person experiencing anhedonia (me included) is that they seem to mention the inability to experience the same list of things: music/art, sex/romance/dating, and emotional appreciation. To me, all of these are inter-related and so anhedonia really boils down to a flatness of emotional responsivity to anything and a general inability to experience pleasure. The best way to describe it is to make the analogy to the loss of interest in sex as similar to the loss of interest in sex a male might experience soon after ejaculating (refractory period)or the loss of interest in music to the loss of interest one might feel towards a song after having heard the same song repeatedly for several months. I have read many articles on anhedonia and have seen many theories that suggest that anhedonia is a result of the failure to anticipate pleasure rather than experiencing it and that it involves the neurotransmitters dopamine and norepinepherine. Firstly I would like to say that I can anticipate having a pleasurable response to something, but the only thing that is missing for me is the response itself. For example, I may get an adrenaline rush from something such as sex, but it is not accompanied by feelings of pleasure. I anticipate the pleasure, but I only experience the adrenaline, not the pleasure itself. I have had partial responses to stimulants and dopaminergic agents but no response to norepinepherine modulating drugs, though I have read many reports of people having success with norepinepherine drugs. Others left no noticeable effect.

Strangely, I would sometimes spontaneously and instantaneously get a “window” of normalcy where my emotional numbness would break for a few minutes and I would feel normal, as if a “light switch” was controlling my emotions and ability to feel pleasure. My libido, my numbed emotions, and that zombie-like feeling I was having – they were all related, they all came from that same part of me that was “turned off.” It’s the same type of sensation that I was missing – whether it was the feeling that I was not getting thinking about a girl, the excitement I was not experiencing thinking about my future, and the enjoyment I was not experiencing being around my family doing activities with them, they all (pleasure) were just “off.” As time passed, I would see fewer and fewer of these windows until they disappeared completely. At first, with much difficulty I felt two windows once while crying shortly after arriving at home and once during a car ride with my mother.

There seems to be two "camps" that psychiatrists fall under. In one camp are the psychiatrists who tend to disregard anhedonia as "just a symptom of the underlying depression/other illness" and not mainly a dopaminergic phenomenon saying "treat the underlying depression/other illness, and the symptoms go away with it like a cascade." These psychiatrists believe that SSRIs are most effective for any type of depression, regardless of symptoms, (usually calling me "obsessive" for researching or disregard science backing it up as "just theories,” and that “nobody knows what’s actually going on in the brain" etc.) and often deny that serotonergics make anhedonia worse (I've been with two of this type). The other "camp" is, in my opinion at least, more reasonable; psychiatrists falling under the second camp listen to symptoms and recognize anhedonia as mainly dopaminergic or to do with norepinepherine.

It's known that the activation of certain serotonin receptors inhibit the release of dopamine, (obviously shown in the blunting effect and loss of libido associated with SSRIs/SNRIs) and it is also known that dopamine plays a crucial role in the processing of emotional responses. Norepinepherine is another key part of the puzzle, in my experience sort of the "second banana" to dopamine, as it is shown in many studies that animals lose preference towards a reward with reductions in norepinepherine - norepinepherine is associated with motivation and arousal.

The treatments that I have found through research to be successful in treating anhedonia are:
Stimulants - Methylphenidate, Dextroamphetamine, etc.
Dopamine Agonists - Pramipexole, Ropinirole, Cabergoline, Apomorphine, Bromocriptine, Rotigotine, etc.
Low Dose Antipsychotics - Aripiprazole, Amisulpride, Sulpride, etc.
Serotonin Receptor Antagonists - Buspirone, Low dose Fluoexitine, etc.
SSREs - Tianeptine
Dopamine Reuptake Inhibitors - Amineptine, Bupropion, etc.
Norepinepherine Reuptake Inhibitors - Desipramine, Atomoxetine, Nortryptaline, Bupropion, etc.
MAOIs - Parnate, Nardil, Selegiline, etc.
Other - Amantadine, Nicotine, Testosterone, Levodopa, Phenylethylamine, Cyproheptadine, Thyroid Augmenting (lithium for example), L-Tyrosine, L-Theanine, SAM-E, St. John's Wort, etc.

Unfortunately several drugs are not available in the USA such as Tianeptine, Adrafinil, and Amisulpride, and many of these medications have significant drawbacks such as tolerance, addiction, long-lasting side effects, severe reactions, heart problems, heptatoxicity, blood pressure problems, and more.

I have tried Wellbutrin, Abilify, L-Tyrosine, L-Theanine, SAM-E, DLPA, Ritalin, Adderall, and Desipramine. My experience was that I felt no different on Wellbutrin even after being on it for 8 weeks at the highest recommended dose (450mg). Abilify (5-7.5mg) helped me to regain focus and the ability to do something for longer periods of time without feeling anxious, though had little noticeable effect on anhedonia and gave me random twitching and tremors. L-Tyrosine (500-1500mg) had no noticeable effect. L-Theanine (300-1000mg) made me extremely agitated and irritable. SAM-E made me more irritable. DLPA (1000-2000mg) had no noticeable effect. Ritalin (15-30mg 2x daily) was the closest thing to helping my anhedonia, but was unreliable, worked for only about an hour, quickly formed a tolerance, and raised my heart rate substantially. Adderall (5-15mg 2x daily) only raised my heart rate with no noticeable effect on the anhedonia, but I can't help but to feel that this was because of a cross-tolerance with the Ritalin (I had already become tolerant to the Ritalin after only a week, so thus I was also tolerant to other stimulants such as Adderall). Desipramine (200mg) left no noticeable effect besides dry mouth and tremors after several weeks, but I later found out that due to its heptatoxicity, my liver was reacting poorly to it and thus I have been forced to come off of it.

For anhedonia I would like to take next a combination of Pramipexole, Cyproheptadine, Busiprone, and Selegiline, though I am not a doctor so do not regard this as educated medical advice without consulting your doctor (just a legal disclaimer). I will be visiting my doctor tomorrow and will start a new medication regimen and let everyone know how it goes. Please post what your experiences have been, what works, what doesn't, if you've found relief or not, or just the details of your anhedonia.
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#1133545 Wish That I Reply To All Of You

Posted by LonelyHiker on 02 January 2015 - 09:17 AM

I guess I just wanted to speak up and say that I wish (as I'm sure many of you do) that I could respond to all of the people posting and sharing their stories here...I know there are some who have expressed frustration at a lack of responses or long periods of time elapsing before responses are made. I guess I just want to say that even if I haven't replied (and big deal, who the heck am I, anyway?), I empathize with each and every one of you. I know it has been said here countless times, but it bears repeating..You are not alone. We care, even if outwardly our lack of response makes it seem like we don't. We do.

Peace to us all.

Tim
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#1031723 Did You Accomplish Anything Today? Anything At All? If So, Post Here!

Posted by dsm on 11 December 2013 - 06:23 PM

Today I had to go to the store, and that's a very big task for me for so many reasons. One, I hate to leave the house. Two, I hate myself. Three, I'm obese and it's a huge struggle for me to move around.  Four, I suffer from severe anxiety.  Five... and so on.

 

When I have to go to the store, I make myself sick over it for days.  Today, I told myself that if I made it to the store, I would come and post my success here and maybe someone would understand just how big a deal it was that I got that task done.  And even though I don't know anyone here, I was anxious to be able to tell someone, anyone, that I accomplished my task.

 

I went to the store today!  Not just one store, but two stores.  I'm exhausted and stressed to the max, but I did it.

 

If you did anything today, anything at all... please post here.  Or if you do something tomorrow, please come back and report it.  I don't care how small the task is, because I think when suffering from depression, there are no small tasks.  I have days where if I take in the mail, it's considered a good day.  Seriously. 

 

So, did you do anything at all today?  Anything? 


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#898282 This Is What Cured My Depression Permanently

Posted by Finally_happy on 18 July 2012 - 07:29 AM

This is what cured my depression permanently and I just want to share it. I do not advise anyone to stop taking counseling or medication without the direction and supervision of a medical professional.

I apologize if I sound blunt or mean, but in order to beat depression permanently with no drugs, counseling or anything harmful to your health or life, there is only one thing I know that really works and it will take some real honesty with yourself. I know this from my own experience. I was diagnosed with clinical depression and tried everything from hotline's, counseling, therapy, medications (pharmaceutical and holistic) as well as illegal drugs, and I was still depressed until I discovered these things about myself and made the following choices.


1. REALIZATION
2. ASSUMING RESPONSIBILITY
3. RELEASING
4. FORGIVING
5. ACKNOWLEDGEMENT
6. TAKING CONTROL

(REALIZATION) - I REALIZED THAT I AM THE CAUSE OF MY OWN THOUGHTS THAT WERE CAUSING MY DEPRESSION - I could no longer BLAME OTHERS, my past experiences, chemical imbalance or anything else for that matter! There are many things that we have no control of that we can either CHOOSE to be sad about, or we can also CHOOSE to allow those things to make us stronger.

(ASSUMING RESPONSIBILITY) - I ASSUMED RESPONSIBILITY FOR BEING THE ONE TORTURING MYSELF - For whatever the reason I had believed that I deserved to suffer and I made sure that I would suffer at all times with any and all thoughts that were painful. With this knowledge, I learned to let go of self defeating beliefs.

(RELEASING) - I STOPPED DWELLING ON MYSELF - I was so wrapped up with my own thoughts and feelings that I never took into consideration that anyone else or anything else mattered.

(FORGIVING) - WITH THIS NEW UNDERSTANDING, I MADE THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISION OF MY LIFE - I CHOSE that I forgive myself, and everyone who ever wronged me.

( ACKNOWLEDGEMENT) I BEGAN TO LEARN APPRECIATION - I CHOSE to acknowledge the good in myself, in the world and in others.

(TAKING CONTROL) - I CREATED A REALISTIC GOAL LIST - I made small goals that were easily obtainable and accomplished just one each day. With each goal that I completed, I developed a sense of accomplishment and that feeling empowered me and gave me the strength and the courage I needed to move forward in my life and to let go of the things I held on to in the past.

THERE IS NO HOPE FOR A BETTER PAST, BUT THERE IS ALWAYS HOPE FOR A BETTER NOW AND A BETTER FUTURE, IF WE CHOOSE TO MAKE IT SO.

It is truly our choices that make or break us.

IT HAS BEEN NINE YEARS NOW AND I AM STILL FREE FROM THE CHAINS OF DEPRESSION :happy: GOOD LUCK AND MY BEST WISHES TO YOU ALL !!! :hearts:
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#1164978 I Might Be On My Way Out Of This Horrible Debilitating Depression!

Posted by HopeButterfly on 09 April 2015 - 06:52 AM

I'd like to share with this community that I may be on my way out of this horrendous major depression which I've suffered since the end of October 2014.  It goes without saying that I never thought I'd come out of this one.  There were times I didn't want to live, times I couldn't even shower, but I was never suicidal.  As much as I suffered, I felt that I had no right to take my sad ugly life.  I'm still not sleeping hardly at all and have a ton of physical disabilities to cope with. But I have more energy and haven't had to lie down during the day for the past two days.  This has been my fifth major depression in my lifetime and I pray to be spared another.

 

I've gotten back to quilting a little and food might have it's normal taste back again. This morning I enjoyed a toast with orange marmalade along with my Ensure Plus.  I've been drinking this to get the extra calories while I was so sick.  I cannot be certain yet and am going very cautiously. Baby steps........ But if this is it, there are no words to express how grateful I am.  It's been an agonizing hell.  My medications were changed many times.  Side effects were rampant.  Perhaps I now have a cocktail that works.  In attempting to discover why this last one occurred I've come to the conclusion that my medications had stopped working and my former psychiatric NP had me get off another medication that had helped me to come out of my  last depression in 2011.  My pdoc put me  back on that medication along with two others about 3 weeks ago. 

 

If I could afford it, I'd pamper myself with a spa day, but will settle for a quick haircut as soon as my hairdresser can fit me in.  We have at least 7 new inches of snow on the ground (where's spring?) but I don't care.   By the way, I'd like to share some more great news.  I'll be a great grandmother in 8 weeks to baby Scarlett.  She will have a new baby quilt for her crib. 

 

Thanks for visiting this post and may you have a wonderful day.  I will for the first time in 5 and 1/2 months.   


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#1092299 Everyone Who Posts Here Is My Hero

Posted by Epictetus on 01 August 2014 - 02:46 PM

Everyone who posts here, even if the post if sad, is my hero because even one short post can touch the heart of someone else in a once in a lifetime way across space and time.  It could be someone reading your post right now or someone who will find it in a year and feel less alone with their depression.  I also salute everyone who merely reads these posts because that too is a sign of incredible strength, wisdom, courage and goodness!  Bravo!


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#860781 I Did It

Posted by Acrowley on 29 March 2012 - 02:17 PM

Hi everyone. This is just a post to tell you people that I told my school counsellor about my depression. I'm talking to my parents with her tomorrow. So, yeah, that's about it. Just felt like telling someone.
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#1147222 I'm So Sad :( My Husband Killed My Bird

Posted by duck on 13 February 2015 - 04:08 AM

I am wondering what kind of man is he?  Let's the bird out of the cage and chases it? Also he teases the cat?


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#1112311 Wolf In Sheep's Clothing

Posted by Fizzle on 09 October 2014 - 05:01 PM

Oli, 

It really isn't OK to start threads about other members and speak about them behind their backs so to speak. It's a little bit bullying.  It also isn't Ok to discuss what is private and happens in pm's. You've done that a few times. If someone offends you then speak to them directly (assertively not aggressively) and if you still have a problem then pm one of the  mods. 

 

One good technique that you can use when you feel offended by something is to state how you understand it and then ask the other person if that is what was meant. A lot of upset can be avoided that way because often we can take things the wrong way. Or we may still be upset but realise that it wasn't meant to harm us. 

 

Again if you feel yourself reacting then step away from the situation until you calm down and are thinking clearer. You are not obliged to agree with people but you need to get that temper under control. 


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#1111810 People's Inappropriate Responses

Posted by Wrenn84 on 08 October 2014 - 12:06 AM

Well I'm starting this thread cos I just need to get these things people have said to me out of my head cos their just rattling around in there......I hope everyone understands I hope this can be a venting, releasing sort of exercise and not to contribute to anyone's anxiety or stress by triggering,,,.please add/share any bonehead responses you have heard!


Here's my "favorite" inappropriate responses I have heard to any discussion of my mental health/mental health in general

-"you are just having a pity party"

-"there's nothing wrong with u, it's all in your head"

-"you're just making things up and imagining that"

-"get over it"

"You worry too much"

"People who commit suicide are just selfish"

-if things were that bad for you you would be on the streets living in a bus shelter"
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