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ribosome77
post Jun 10 2009, 05:09 AM
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Hi, I just wanted to add my experience with tapering down effexor xr. Been on it since 2000. Started at 37.5mg and worked to 150mg in about a month. Personally, going from 75 to 150 made it difficult to sleep and I never felt that - 'i'm tired now - I must sleep feeling.' Maybe the norepinephrine kicked in more noticebly at this dosage. It helped with panic attacks but at 150 I just was too irritable. I chose drop back down to 75mg for the remaining 8 years. Still had panic, but not as often as I did without meds. I've recently decided to give prozac a try due to being lethargic/sleepy.

Over 9 years on effexor I've become very familiar with the withdrawal effects after missing doses from 1 to up to 4 days cold. Brain zaps (I call it brain bounce because when I close my eyes and move them suddenly, I get this odd bounce/off balance zing (Try this,it can be fun sometimes). The zap feeling seems analogous to an old tube television turning off and back on. Intensely visual dreams. Vertigo (don't operate heavy machinery). A bit later comes the anxiety and diarhea and headache a day or so later. Over the years I've experimented by intentionally missing a dose and seeing how consistent the withdrawal effects were. Well, they did always come, but were not always consistent in severity or timing. Sometimes I could skip a day and not feel anything; Sometimes I could skip and wake up with a panic attack. I can say that some of the withdrawal effects are similar to taking LSD, probably not as intense though - It's been far too long to remember with accuracy.

I suggest that several months before you decide to taper down your dose, plan on going down in dosage just for one day and then return to the original. Note how you feel and determine how soon you the feelings come; If you're like me you might notice that sometimes your completely fine and others not, even though the time and dose missed is the same. I think that this might help get you used to the withdrawl effects over a much longer time in discrete attempts rather than all at once continuously. My nurse practitioner recommended tapering to 37.5mg while adding 20mg prozac to lesson the withdrawal effects. I chose not to take them in parallel to avoid possible interaction effects. Here was my experience tapering down. You can use it as a map of sorts. Everyone's map is going to look different even when the destination is the same.

monday may 3
37.5mg effexor from 75
took about 1pm
dizzy
slight acidic stomach
softer bowel movements
very visual dreams.
headache

tuesday may 4
took 37.5 effexor at 2pm
dizziness waned at about 6 but remained somewhat.
headache
stuffed nose

wednesday may 5
took 37.5 effexor 1pm
dizzy waned about 5
headache not as bad
stuffed nose
diarhea

Thursday may 6
37.5 effexor
A bit more impulsive
diarhea

Monday may 7
37.5 effexor
bit dizzy on wake, but went away not that bad.
diareah still present
much more talkative

Tuesday may 8
37.5 effexor
Panic attack at 5am woke me - lasted 10 minutes - passed out.

Wednesday may 9
37.5 effexor
panic attack about same as last night.

Monday may 10 37.5mg effexor + 1 prozac


Tuesday may 11 0 mg effexor + 1 prozac


Wednesday may 12 1 20mg prozac
woke panic 9am

Thursday may 13 1 20mg prozac
dizzy

Friday may 14
Sat may 15

Sun may 16
I'm awaking earlier and easier but still fall asleep in afternoon

Mon may 17
fine

Tues may 18
Panic at night - not too bad relatively

Wednesday may 19
hungrier
Thursday may 20
friday may 21
Saturday may 22
Temper outbursts
fri may 23
sat may 24
Irritable
mon may 25
irritable
tues may 26
temper
wed may 27
thur may 28
don't want to eat
friday may 29
don't want to eat
panic attack later on, not horrible

So far, I haven't noticed any benefits from prozac so I may try something else.
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post Sep 21 2009, 11:46 PM
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Stay strong! It is very hard. I went through all of these side effects coming off of effexor xr. It was a pain and I didn't know if it was possible to do anymore. I did it, and I'm grateful. I definitely confided w/ my boss about withdrawing. It has tremendously effected me at work, in my relationship with my husband, and my own self. Be strong, follow the Dr. orders...you won't withdrawal forever even though 'it will seem like forever. I came off of 300mg a day...down to zero for 10 straight days over a long period of time. I just started my new medication 2.5 weeks ago. I'm much happier!

Good luck!

QUOTE (foggy @ Mar 8 2006, 12:16 PM) *
QUOTE (firelizardee @ Jan 21 2006, 08:24 AM) *
Most of us will have to come off Effexor XR(Efexor XL in the UK) at some time or other. This thread will give some advice on tapering schedules or cross-tapering schemes.

Any suggestions for tapering off Effexor XR (Efexor XL) is not meant to be as a substitute for your Drs advice or recommendations.

Possible side effects from discontinuing Effexor XR
Most people on Effexor XR will be able to stop the drug with only minimal side effects some others may suffer from a range of symptoms such as electrical like shocks (brain zaps), dizzyness, sleeplessness, nausea, irritability, crying or nightmares.

Why do we get discontinuation side effects
Effexor XR has a much shorter half life (4 hours) compared to SSRI like Prozac which I think has a half life of around 3 days. So stopping Effexor or missing a dose may cause some discontinuation side effects ( a dr did warn me not to run out of Effexor). Effexor XR causes this type of side effects because our serotonin receptors have to adjust immediately to reduced levels of serotonin, whereas with an AD like Prozac our receptors have longer to adjust (this is my understanding and I am not knowledgeable in this type of process).

Tapering Off
My pdoc recommended to me that I came off Effexor XR in steps of 37.5 mg every 2 to 4 weeks, with the last 2 weeks of 37.5mg every second day. I choose to do it over 2 week periods. So from 225mg dose, it took me 12 weeks to come off Effexor XR. I had minimal or no side effects at all.

From dose of 225mg
Week 1 & 2 - 187.5mg
Week 3 & 4 - 150 mg
Week 5 & 6 - 112.5 mg
Week 7 & 8 - 75 mg
Week 9 & 10 - 37.5 mg
Week 11 & 12 - 37.5 mg on alternate days
Cross-tapering off Effexor XR (Efexor XL)
If you are experiencing severe side effects of discontinuing Effexor XR there is also another method for coming off Effexor and that is cross-tapering. What you do is reduce the effexor as much as you can without getting the disabling side effects and then switching onto another AD such as Prozac at the same time as the lowest dose of Effeoxr, then stop the Effexor, and then wean off the Prozac.

What I've found on other sites is that you need to come down to 37.5mg, then start 10mg Prozac and take both together for a week, then stop the Effexor, up the Prozac to 15mg or 20mg and then taper off the Prozac after a week or two. Again this is only a suggestion, please talk to your dr for professional advice.

From dose of 225mg
Week 1 & 2 - 187.5mg
Week 3 & 4 - 150 mg
Week 5 & 6 - 112.5 mg
Week 7 & 8 - 75 mg
Week 9 - 37.5 mg Effeoxr XR, 10 mg Prozac
Week 10 & 11 - stop Effexor XR, 15 or 20 mg Prozac
Week 12 - taper off or stop Prozac

[b]Other meds that help combat the symptoms of discontinuing Effexor XR (Efexor XL) [b]
Some people from the States have suggested that Benadryl may help with things like dizzyness or nausea.

If you are suffering from side effects, it would be better to talk to your Dr or pharmacist for advice on what you may be able to take.

Another person recommended Green Tea.



Please tell me if I need to be doing something different. I began Effexor XR 06/2005 after trying to cope with an ugly divorce, a job, and two little girls 8 and 10. The divorce is final, settlement is still up in the air, and my girls and I have relocated 900 miles and are living with my brother and his family. I am so very blessed to have the positive support in my life. I am working for my sister-in-law when able and taking care of myself mostly right now. In doing so, I have recognized that although the Effexor XR helped to get me through a very rough period of my life I cannot function at the level that I once did because of it.
I was tapered onto Effexor XR 75 mg, in 37.5 mg over a 4 to 6 week period. I have maintained the 75 mg level until a week and a half ago. I began taking one 75 mg every other day. Today is the first day I have not taken the 75 mg in three consecutive days. I am in a fog, my head hurts to the point that my hair almost hurts, I am naseatious, I cannot seem to focus on work at all, and really just want to go to sleep for the next month.
My question is should I take a 75mg dose today and repeat in three days for another week or should I simply tough it out?
Thanks for any direction,
Foggy.......The light in the forest is warm and inviting!!!!

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