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post Jul 18 2008, 10:07 AM
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My OCD is better on Citalopram but I still count the rooms in my flat over and over again-drives mr insane and I can't relax until i count1,2,3,4, 1,2,3, 1,2, 1-dear me x
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QUOTE (inner chaos @ Aug 1 2004, 10:10 AM) *
I amused that you are a 28 year old male knitter. knitting is becoming a lost art these days. People just go out and buy things. and you are a guy. I have said that twice now. what made you take up knitting? ??? And what do you like to knit? :)


I'm starting at the beginning of these subjects...threads, So this one is from a couple of years ago. I wanted to say that I found out knitting used to be a man thing and then men created knitting machines. So, the women, not wanting the craft to be lost forever, learned from the men how to hand knit and it has become mostly women who knit since then. Have you ever seen Kaffe Fassett's books? He is the champion knitter of all time. If you can find his book Glorious Knits, you have found a treasure.

I got this history of knitting from a Canadian Knitting book. It goes back to the third century, knitting does. According to this book. (I got it at the library so I can't remember which one.) A man knit me a pair of slippers once and put my own knitting to shame.

Just my two cents' here. Going back to read some more...oh, I almost forgot... yeah, I'm a ruminator. Big time.

I do the counting thing, too. It's something to see how many other people do these things!

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QUOTE (cloudspitter @ Jul 18 2008, 06:18 AM) *
So, question out there for those who say that writing down the thoughts helps... why would this be? Wouldn't it be that writing only makes you ruminate MORE? I write down my thoughts occasionally but haven't really found much benefit from the task so far. But I would be better about doing this if I found that it did indeed help significantly. Would love to hear from you! whatsthat.gif


I can write things down, but I can't stand to look at anything I've written once it's done. Journal-wise anyway. I think it helps because in a way it's like putting your thoughts into a compartment where you know they aren't going to fly away somewhere, but then you don't have to keep going over them again and again. It sort of makes room in your brain for something else to think about...unclutters it. For me anyway. I can't really describe it very well. That's the best I can do.

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When I was very ill in 1998 I wrote down lots of issues, had anyone read them I would have been locked away lookaround.gif but writing down emptied my brain and eased my feelings ....... I couldn't share those feelings with anyone ......... reading them a few months after made me realise how unhinged I had actually been during those months ........


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Sometimes our brains go over and over the same subjects: still we repeat the same habits and compulsions.  My brain sometimes repeats the same conversations with itself - all day long!
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I have only recently been having severe enough problems with rumination. I find it the worst. I can handle the more physical things but I can not get away from myself. That is what turned me to help and meds. It caused me to start having panic attacks again and anxiety. I wish I could go back to checking door locks again... I have the best boyfriend who is supportive. I wonder when he will get fed up with it though.   
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Well, I'm most definitely a ruminator, so I guess this thread is the place for me!  I'm too tired to go into specifics right now, and I've already described some of it in another thread.  Just wanted to say hi.  



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Thanks Lizzy!
I most definetly am a ruminator, at least some times, if that counts. It varies from a particular song that I don't even like and is in my head the whole day (talking about unpleasant!) to repeating certain sentences over and over again in my mind(from ''nowhere'' they come). That's actually like having repetitive thoughts, right?
I remember that was actually my first symptom of ''real'' OCD. There was one short stupid sentence that I couldn't get out of my head for days and it started scaring me eventually...
Anyway, I'm in!

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what if you have the same conversation from 100 different angles?
I do this alot.  its like looking at it from every different veiw point.  it gets beyond ridiculous.  
For example.....
i'd like to chew on a piece of gum..the only problem is that i have ten different flavours in front of me..which do i choose....
the cherry
the  mint
the grape
the watermelon
the bubblegum
the spiramint
the strawberry
the cinnamon
the lemon
and that blue trident kind that tastes like tooth paste
so i go over this 100 different ways of trying to decide what flavour i want to chew and some days it takes  me up to an hour to decide....but by the time i decide...the problem is that i no longer feel like chewing.

i do this with conversations.....

if i am going to to the pdoc or the t.  i will think about every possible thing that could possibly come up as a topic of conversation and work out what exactly i will say in response to his or her questions.  then i reannalyze  and reevaluate and do it again and try to think of better answers and more questions.  after the appointements i rethink what was said and how it went and what was said by both of us and what was said in between the lines.  were there any inuendos on the t.s behalf or the pdocs behalf.  (see i dont want to look crazy or they might lock me up again)

i do this with my family as well constantly. what are they implying, what do i think, what do they really think,
i do this with all my psts and pms on here as well.
is this ruminating?

my problem is that I JUST CANT LET THINGS GO.
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put me down as a ruminator!!!!!
I post mortem nearly every action i have, every thought, every word. I even ruminate on songs...lol
   
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I'm a ruminator too!  I have many conversations in my head about how I think the conversation should or may go...



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hand up!! im one to!!!
songs i dont think are a problem, cos everyone has that i think, but phrases, my god!!! they go over and over!!! for example, i watched this documentary on the american military, well actually it was about american 'imperialism', but neways they described the military as having 'full spectrum dominance', i went over that phrase in my head all day long for like a week, lol, quite funny when u think about it.

then, the funniest one was, after reading somone on this website talking about their doctor telling them that they ruminate, i was making the dinner and doing the dishes after and the whole think i said that word over and over again 'ruminating', hmmmmmmmmm, comforting! its quite ironic that i would ruminate about the word rumination. Its like the most ironic word in the english dictionary, verbose, which means overly elaborate language use. So to describe somones verbose language u yourself will be verbose, that is ofcoursae if u use the word verbose(eh u got it, no explaination was needed, oh well).



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"ruminating" and "verbose"
*sigh*

they  both do have such a lovely ring to them as i repeat them over and over in my head...maybe they will be my new words to repeat as i count my ceiling tonight......thanks

michealIRL......lol......
new words to repeat.....lol.....well...repeating words sure counting!

do you repeat them..i do  over and over sometimes fast and then slower and then really slow and then medium speed ...just to see how they sound at different rythems.  lol.

oh well.......
maybe i will go to bed now just so i do thqat and see how it feels to me....counting my ceiling and saying those new words instead of my old two words........
       
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LOL, ur welcome! i can give u a multitude more, i joke!!!! sorry for giving u a little bit of a trigger!
but, as opposed to saying things at differnt paces, i say them in differnt accents, infact i just talk all the time in loads of differnt accents, people tend to get slightly confused!



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trust me micheal,
you did not trigger me at all.
if you did not give me new words to think about...then there is always the dictionary!
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I sometimes try to be smarter than my phrases repeating themselves and I convert them into comics in my mind. You know, to really think them through and then ''bye bye, go away'' so they'd go away and stop bugging me. Does that work? Lol it does   . Any more affective ways of fighting them?



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I AM the RUMINATOR!!!
[it gets SO noisy in my head that I have to tell the conversations to just 'shut up' - really annoying]
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First time I've read this thread but I think its me as well. Cant believe there are so many people on this thread...

Anyway, what I get is that I get a thought about what someones done, something thats happened in the past, or whatever, and then it just makes my angry/upset ALL DAY. I just cant let it go.

It could be something my wife said, someone else said. Or some silly insecurity about my wife. I end up catastrophising about it as well.

Strange thing is the next day I'm likely to have forgotten all about that particular issue and be focusing on a new emergency issue !!!


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Hi Lizzy and everyone,

I have not been diagnosed with OCD but there is one thing lately I've been obsessing over. It's a circumstance I've run through my head constantly, all the different angles of it, the positives and negatives. It feels like it'll never rest and it's starting to affect my mood seriously, I've had crying spells and teariness and it's affected sleep, eating, and even my sex life.

I need to maybe find some things to do to get my mind off of it if only for a little while. That sounds like that's what's working for people.


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Write the problem down - then decide how you would like to solve it and how you are able to. Getting it out helps to see in black and white, solid information that can be dealt with better than it going round and round and ..........


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I have the same problem and it drives me insane!! My meds help but not enough! I never knew the word for it before now.
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QUOTE (Jkm @ Aug 4 2004, 06:03 PM) *
Ruminating is a part of depression when your mind gets stuck on something and that's all you want to talk about or think about.  It drives the people around you away, and they start to avoid you..............Here she come again, and she'll tell us all the stupid stuff about her ex!  Let's get out of here, before she comes over here.

Chances are it's working to keep you depressed, so if you do it, it's best to try to change this....  I think we sometimes think that if we think something to death, it won't bother us anymore...like desentizing your mind and reactions.  I don't think this is true, though.  I think it keeps the depression rolling.  


I've been thinking lately that I am just a sad person, as in someone who doesnt see much happiness or good about the world. I have also been exploring how bad I am with OCD - of course when you talk to a doctor you can only tell them things you know about, but i've realised that my counting my steps as i walk along in fours, counting the number of cars I passed on the way to school on the bus, counting the number of lamp post's I would pass on the way to school etc, isn't 'normal'.

My problems when cooking regarding cross contamination, I won't use the same knife twice without rinsing it, even if boths things im cutting are raw. After handling raw meat I have to wash my hands with soap, water alone is never enough.

The reason im replying here, is because I do exactley what is said above. I go through situations over and over again in my head, trying to understand them in some way, I never get anywhere, and end up thinking and thinking and thinking. It's the same with telephone calls, I will run through every eventuality of what I might be asked and rehearse my response inside before I make the call. I often consider what is going to happen, for example meeting someone, and make a conversation similar to what I think well be talking about before I even get there.

The counting my steps is the worst right now, the lamppost thing didn't bother me because i hadnt realised it was something 'wrong'. I don't know why I do it, but to be honest I remember it being such a source of relaxation and calm when I was in school, it probobly started around the time I was first depressed, when I was 12 or 13.

is it common for this sort of thing to 'start' as a coping mechanism?
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welcomeani.gif being careful around raw food stuffs is wise. We have separately coloured plastic chopping boards for raw meats and vegies, they all go into the dishwasher for a boil wash after use. The wooden ones are kept for fruit and veg only.

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I have a habit of reading things around me, and it distracts me quite a bit.
Posters, cans, just completely random things.
I used to sit in a friend's room reading his Godzilla poster over and over, hours at a time.
"An action-packed theme park ride of a movie that packs nonstop thrills"
I haven't even seen that poster in 5 years and I can't forget it.

Same when I was in school. In any classes that had alphabet above the board, I'd read the alphabet over and over and over, sometimes through the entire class. Wouldn't hear a single thing the teacher said.
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QUOTE (Arfarfarfarfarf @ Jan 4 2009, 09:56 PM) *
I have a habit of reading things around me, and it distracts me quite a bit.
Posters, cans, just completely random things.
I used to sit in a friend's room reading his Godzilla poster over and over, hours at a time.
"An action-packed theme park ride of a movie that packs nonstop thrills"
I haven't even seen that poster in 5 years and I can't forget it.

Same when I was in school. In any classes that had alphabet above the board, I'd read the alphabet over and over and over, sometimes through the entire class. Wouldn't hear a single thing the teacher said.



I remember knowing what it said on the back of a packet of toilet tissue from reading it when going to the toilet so many times

'240 x 2 ply soft toilet tissue......'

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Hi everyone. I am new here. I am definitely a Ruminator!!! To the max!!! I finally started seeing a therapist and just started on celexa with valium to sleep. So we will see how it works. But i told my doctor that i just want it to stop!!! I can never let anything go... i just keep repeating over and over. Then i would start to think and make everything 10 times worse than it was which in return started the anxiety cycle all over again! UUUGGGHH I begged, JUST MAKE IT STOP! I hope it works.


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QUOTE (angelmm1114 @ Jan 16 2009, 05:00 AM) *
Hi everyone. I am new here. I am definitely a Ruminator!!! To the max!!! I finally started seeing a therapist and just started on celexa with valium to sleep. So we will see how it works. But i told my doctor that i just want it to stop!!! I can never let anything go... i just keep repeating over and over. Then i would start to think and make everything 10 times worse than it was which in return started the anxiety cycle all over again! UUUGGGHH I begged, JUST MAKE IT STOP! I hope it works.


Hi and Welcome angelmm114

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Hey I am new here and I have this also, Plenty of things sometimes they change . Books is my latest thing, it has been painting, collecting sea shells, old mail, writing,music ect. It doesn't stay the same very long for me. Its sad as I feel I don't know who I am. One person who also has OCD I know collects subway transfers. His entire dresser bed and room are covered with them. I want to be free of this but just get worse. When my OCD gets real bad I find it helpful to apply the AA strategy "just for today" so just for today I won't do_______ <---- Whatever my thing is at that time. Sometimes it helps me.
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I am so much a ruminator. I will repeat the same phrase over in my head, hundreds of times. Also, I will have a thought and then will have to figure out where it started. I will retrace my thoughts back until I can figure out where the supposed random thought came from. Sometimes, I will have to go back 30 or 40 steps, but I won't give up until I figure out where it started from. The worst is the phrase repeating, over and over and over. It will stall me from doing anything else until I can get it to stop. It's nice to know I'm not alone. It's not something I've ever talked about before.
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welcomeani.gif new Members. I ruminate more when stressed. It helps get any anger out. Rests my brain in a funny kind of way .......... I spend too much time alone so my brain goes into over-drive, recently Hubby and I have been at odds and I'm trying to sort out in my head who said what and why what we said has been taken badly ......... tear2.gif


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QUOTE (cloudspitter @ Jul 18 2008, 07:18 AM) *
So, question out there for those who say that writing down the thoughts helps... why would this be? Wouldn't it be that writing only makes you ruminate MORE? I write down my thoughts occasionally but haven't really found much benefit from the task so far. But I would be better about doing this if I found that it did indeed help significantly. Would love to hear from you! :whatsthat:


I can't say it helps the ruminating but here's what I noticed. It probably only applies to me and my peculiar brain-wiring, but maybe not.

I'll have upteen conversations going on in my head: permutation 15a of situation x; likely outcome 14.3 of issue y, etc. When I write down something I see a concrete thing. It's no longer fluid; it crystallizes. There isn't a loop anymore because there's a solid path along which to see a beginning and an end. Finalized. I think, for me, part of the reason is the way I learn (or don't learn). I have real difficulty translating what I hear into meaningful, definitive understanding. Even if I know what I heard and can re-say that, it's not 'learned' or 'understood' until I see it written down. So for me there's closure in that. So if there's a loop going on and I write it down then there's closure, of a sort and I can move on.

That's probably a lot of bs which I've rationalized or something, but it seems to fit the feelings and freedom that I feel when I journal about something that's been particularly obsessing me.


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when i was discovering what i had, but wasn't sure, i described as "my mind won't shut up!"

I have discovered I will ruminate on anything or everything. and since i'm going to ruminate, rather than ruminate on dreadfull thoughts, might as well go with stupid jokes and 80's metal songs...:)



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I've found that one of the best side effects of my zoloft is that it makes me sleepy. hehe Now when I go to bed at night, I drop right out. Don't lie awake with my mind going a mile a minute all night. hehe

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yea i discovered that this is what i did a while ago, and that it was a form of OCD, it does feel obsessive, its like its so annoying thinking and keep going over and over stuff obsessively the whole time, but you cant stop it. i used to be really bad in that i would keep reliving a conversation id have with someone for weeks on end, going over and over what they said how i reacted, how else i could have reacted, what tone of voice they used when they said it, how they looked, the look in their eyes. aghgh did my head in. now its not so bad but i still think too much about things.
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QUOTE (lizzy100 @ Feb 10 2009, 06:00 PM) *
..... now its not so bad but i still think too much about things.



I think you hit the nail right on the head. I do the same thing. I think too much.
Like my dad used to say, most people don't think that much about what other people say, do, wear, said, what they said, etc. But OCD'ers seem to.

The key to the battle seems to go back to know thyself. If we understand that we are doing this, and that it is JUST ocd...it might not stop right away, but it has a lot less power.

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Thank you for posting. This is me too. I think about my past all the time. But not everything in the past, just things in my life that went wrong that i blame myself for. They might not even be my fault, but for some reason i blame myself. And i go over the scneario time and time again and it consumes me. I have such anxiety over it. Im trying to cope with this. My counselor said that its not ocd, but i have obsessive tendencies...whatever that means. Im trying to meet with a different therapist soon. If you have any advice for how to stop please let me know.
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Hi all, I have been battling depression off and on since my teens and was just diagnosed this week with OCD (and ADHD) by a new pDoc. I'm 48 years old, and have been the Rumination Queen for as long as I can remember!

I get songs stuck in my head for hours, or days -- often one that I related to a specific memory, which I then re-live as I recall the song. For example, when I was about 13 years old, our house was broken into and vandelized, with my room getting the most damage. Earlier that day, I had been listening to Paul McCartney's "Band on the Run" album over and over again. I associated the song "Mrs. Vanderbilt" with the break-in, and blamed myself for causing it because of these lyrics:

When your pile is on the wane
You don't complain of robbery
Run away, don't bother me.
What's the use of worrying?
What's the use of anything?

Now every time I am feeling un-safe, vulnerable, or otherwise somewhat paranoid, that song gets stuck in my head.

I will worry for days about how an appointment might go... thinking up every possible situation that might occur, and how I will respond to it. By the time I go, I have all the answers! Unfortunately, when the questions arise (if they actually come up), I get so tongue-tied that I forget what I was going to say... lol. Then I spend the next week or two ruminating about how I blew it... what I should have said... how if I'd done that, everything would have been 'better.'

I'm also an air typist. Without even realizing it, I often 'type out' words as someone says something (in person, or on TV, song lyrics, whatever). Often when I go to bed, a phrase or word gets stuck in my head and I have to type it with my fingers, while saying the phrase or spelling out a single word, in my head. For example, my T's name is Janine. I will sit there air-typing her name while I say (in my head) J-A-N, (pause) I-N-E... J-A-N, (pause) I-N-E... etc. Arghhhh!


Like PsychoCandy, I also get fixated on past events. I was bullied by my supervisor at work a few months ago, and I relive the bullying instances and final conversation over and over and over again. The way she spoke to me and the nasty things she said, and my response to it all. I end up in tears or angry every time.

Having to make a decision is really difficult for me too. I ruminate on whether I make (made) the right choice or not, what might happen if I pick incorrectly, etc. That's where it plays into my ADHD. It's easier to avoid it altogether than have to commit to a choice.

Anyway, it was kind of validating to learn that all the things I've blamed on myself for all these years are really caused by something out of my control. Now my new pDoc is working with me to try and find a balance of the right med's to get on the road to wellness. Right now I'm on 40mg of Prozac for the depression and OCD, 100mg of Buproprion for the ADHD, and a combination of Zopiclone/Trazodone for sleep. We'll re-assess in about a month to see if it's making a difference. Hopefully so! :-)

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Hello! Im a rumminator , thing I don´t like. I makes me feel I don´t have control of my mind and life.
I have felt rejected from two friends and I can stop rumminiating about this.
Is that that I don´t forgive? That i can´t accept? That I an´t let go? Are all rumminitaor in fact depressed?
What makes people rumminiate? Too many questions, right?
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Hi, im Chrystal and Im a Ruminator... and have many many rituals to boot too.

In fact I have to be up an 1.5 hours earlier in the morning in order to fit my ruminations and rituals in and even then I am still late leaving the house.

I have a sort of 'prayer' thing I have to do in the mornings. Im not religious but its a thing I do to protect my flat and my pets and myself from harm during the day. I say it every single morning and it involves some actions too. I have to do it properly and if i get one line wrong I have to start at the beginning.

The prayer is something I say every single morning and its the same words every day. One day I might add soemthing to it and it gets added every day thereafter. The only time I can allow myself to cut down the prayer length is when Ihave been on holiday and I have to keep checking with myself that its ok to do this.

I tell ya what, if I remembered my school work as well as I remember all my ruminating words, I would have left with top grades!!



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Hi,

I went through a bad patch in 2005 and ruminated so much I got my first bout of severe depression. I don't ruminate anymore but I am still on meds. (SSRI)


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Yep yep yep! Definitely a ruminator. Can't think of a better word. On meds for depression, but always had a niggling thought that it might be borderline OCD, if there even is such a thing. Still ruminate, though....on and on about a topic, round and about in circles for days til I want to scream. Songs too, just like everyone else here has written! But when I try to sit down to write it all out in a journal or something, nothing comes! My rumination has stage fright. It won't perform when I give it an outlet. So I find my way back into it again and again, until my subconcious gets tired and finds another topic to obsess about.
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QUOTE (frost @ Jul 18 2008, 08:21 AM) *
So that was the name ruminator. Yes I am one too and suffering. I have conversations in my brain all the time. I mean day and night and that's probably why I couldn't sleep at all. Until I took Remeron and it blocked all the conversations in my mind. Like someone has folded my braid in saranwrap and the thoughts and emotions can not show themselves up. But as soon as I tapered the drog here they come again. So as far as someone uses the drog everyday it might be very effective to clean the thoughts from the mind. I couldn't handle with Remeron though made me sleep all day and felt incredibly tired contrary to what I wanted to be.



Just thought I would jump in here as well, there aren't many active posts for OCD so I didn't know where I was going to put this! I have convo's in my brain all day and night, and that keeps me from sleeping. I have to sleep with the TV on every night so I can concentrate on something other than my mind. It drives me NUTS!! If something happens, like I get some news about something or anything I will think, rethink, it 100 times. Grocery shopping is the worst for me cause I will stand infront of a product and run through my mind 50 times do I need it, should I get it, is there a better one then I will look at them all and go back and forth etc. Once I stood infront soup and there were 3 different brands and I couldn't make up my mind for 20min!!! Could you imagine?! And then you just get so stressed out about it. I can't shop alone anymore, I need someone with me to make the decision for me when I get in that state lol. My other OCD compulsion is playing with my hair. I've been doing it since I was a kid, and it's become my trademark. I don't know why I do it, but I will do it from when I get up to when I fall asleep, somenights I wont fall asleep cause I just want to keep playing with it! I think it calms me and it's so soft! but other people think it's OCD for sure. I can't not do it and if I tie my hair back I'll just take it out cause I can't stop thinking about it. Also I'm obsessed with organizing things. My fridge is the worst, everything has to be lined up properly and all labels facing front. I get stressed out if I know my bf if going to put something in it worrying he will do it wrong, needless to say he doesn't touch the fridge lol. And I'm a compulsive cleaner and organizer! Sorry for the novel of a post, like I said I didn't know where to put this and was just wondering if anyone else suffers from anything like these crazy complusions???? I'm on Cymbalta now, week 2 so I'm hoping for some relief!!!! Thanks for listening! nod.gif
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I'm adding to this thread, even though it is very old, because this hits the nail on the head for me. I suffer from anxiety and depression but believe they are caused from "ruminating." Most of my ruminations have some magnitude of reality, like losing my job, but I think about them to the point of almost going insane. I do have some OCD habits like playing with my hair and picking dry skin -nasty.

I do not believe any of the medications truly work for this and question if we know why some people can't shut off their thoughts. SSRI's have a tendancy to make me jittery and grouchy.

If you know of any tricks to fix this horrible "plague" let me know.

BTW...for those of you who can't stop a habit...try putting a fairly loose rubber band around your wrist. Each time you start the bad habit, picking dry skin etc..., snap yourself so that it stings just a bit. The sting must register in a portion of the brain, and it helps your mind register what you are about to do. Many habits become subconcious.
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I do this and hate it. It wastes so much time and of course it is never any thing positive ...Geez. I feel like my head is stuck like a needle on a record. It is so random too... veryangry.gif


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QUOTE (harper @ May 9 2006, 05:05 PM) *
I think it was Dante that said "hell is an endless conversation with oneself about oneself."

Oh yes.

Rumination--mostly over very unpleasant events--is one of my biggest problems; my mind just won't turn off. The p-doc prescribed Seroquel 50mg/night for the resulting insomnia. That helps me go to sleep, but it doesn't address the problem during the day.

This is my ONLY problem....."dwelling" on 2 subjects that won't go away. One is probably like PTSD from a decades-old hurt, and the other is one of those "what-if" thoughts...I'm only on Lexapro and Buspar. Had to diagnose myself and ASK my doctor for the meds. I'm a ruminator....................


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So good to hear all these posts! I wasnt sure if I was OCD or just CD (if there is such a thing). I hate it! Oh man, yesterday I went to a thrift store to look around (just for a few minutes). I was there for 3 hours and was late coming home. Then of all things, they didnt take my type of credit card so I had to leave all my stuff behind after all that!!!! LOL shocked.gif I was so stressed out!!!! Then I went on the computer this a.m. just for a few minutes. 4 hours later, bleary-eyed me made myself get off. Is this OCD or something else do you think?
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This is me in a nutshell. Most of the time I have no idea who the hell I am, becuase I change my opinion on everything 20 times a second. I have a hard time making up my mind, a very hard time. There always seems to be a better choice to be made. In the last few years, it has gotten pretty bad to where I lost most of my friends and my desire to be social with anyone becuase it would just remind me that I am a weirdo because I wouldn't be able to go in depth with anyone, I've always been very secretive for no apparent reason, and am coming to realize slowly that this probably has to o with my mind constantly racing and thinking about everything to the point where I forget what is important to me or what my "constants" as I like to call them are. RUMINATIONS? i guess that's what it's called!
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Rumination got me into depression because I was overstressed, it also cost me a great job.

Hope you are all feeling better, and I have now given up rumination.

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I'm doing is now over a girl I liked, for months haha, god ugh. Also I'm worried about finding a job, yikes. I guess I was worried in the job too about loosing it so eh.
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