Hey Dooper43,

Good to hear you were able to contact your doc! I'm afraid I cannot answer your question about what AD you should be on...
Did you make an appointment with your doctor? I'm sure together you'll find something that suits you better. I'm keeping my fingers crossed!

Take good care of yourself and keep us posted!

Love,
Autumn

Hello,
Has anyone on here taken no-xplode (supplement for workouts) with zoloft or remeron?
Really need to know the answer!

Many thks

Thought I'd check with you people. How's everyone doing?

Much love,
Autumn

Hi Autumn,
Im doing ok. I have managed to lose 10 lbs already since I quit the remeron.I am very happy about that.I also got a new job and I have been in training for the last 5 weeks but yesterday actually started the job and I am finding that the training wasn't adequate and I am rapidly sinking, not swimming! So that is stressful and I wish that I was still taking the remeron to help me cope with everything.
I havent had a good nights sleep since I quit taking the Remeron, I wake up several times a night to use the bathroom.That is very tiring....
Well, I hope I lose more weight.Then once I lose the weight I will consider going back on the remeron again.
I hope everyone is doing good.

CG!

Congrats on the new job and the weight loss GO YOU!
I can imagine things are stressful at work though. I just started school again and it's pretty nerve wrecking at times. But hon, give yourself some time to adjust! Just going to work is already a HUGE accomplishment! You'll manage... Don't beat yourself up over a bad day!
I'm sorry to hear you're not getting enough sleep. Waking up a few times a night is indeed exhausting.
Is there anything (apart from meds) you could do to get a better night's rest?

Take good care of yourself!

Love,
Autumn

Good to hear from you , Canadian Girl and congratulations on your job. That is really great. It takes a lot of energy to start a new job or be in school! I hope the sleep evens out for you. I am steady at the moment as I have been on the remeron. Again, my main problem is the foggy headed sedation and "anti-histamine" effects of remeron. I have not enjoyed the weight gain, either. I am 2 pounds heavier this month. It just seems to creep up despite eating healthy and not huge amounts.

I have a plan to begin my taper starting October 14th. My therapist has been doing EMDR with me to help me with the potential withdrawal I might experience. I anticipate that I may have problems sleeping as I taper off. I don't do too well when I have bad insomnia. I plan to take ativan when I need to. I have been on the remeron now for 10 months and it is time to try it without. I'm just tired of slogging through life with it, despite how lovely the sleep is. Hopefully my depression/anxiety will not crash down. I feel very strong emotionally and have supports around me, so God willing, I can do this. My plan is to just go from 15 mg (one full pill) to 11.5 mg (3/4 pill) to start out. And stay on that for however long it feels right. Years ago I tapered off nortriptelene (tricyclic) after a post-partum depression.....it took 8 months! I just went slow and steady. And then I was off antidepressants successfully for 10 years (and another baby!). So, we will see.

Good luck to everyone and thanks, Autumn, for checking in on us.

peace,
gigi

Gigi,

It's so good to hear from you!
GOOD LUCK with coming of Remeron! Seems like you have a good plan there. Take it nice and easy, right?
Keep us posted on how things evolve okay?!

Take care hon!

Love,
Autumn

This post has been edited by Autumn: Oct 3 2006, 12:25 PM

I've been on Mirtazapine since April and although it started to get better at first, I was still miserable and was upped to 30 pretty quickly. It's gone downhill again and I don't think it's worked at all. At least it is better than the Citalopram- in the four weeks I was taking that, I went straight to hell and I was the worst that I had ever been in my life. Thank goodness they took me off that.

Bindi,

I'm sorry to hear you feel like things are going downhill again. Did you talk about this to your doctor yet? Maybe it's time for a little adjustment?
Keep posting for support! We care!

Take good care of yourself!

Love,
Autumn

I have another appointment on the 10th. I couldn't go before then because I've been off college for three months (my mum's doctors didn't really want to see me because I'm not registered there- they gave me some more pills and told me to do back to my usual doc). We'll see how it goes.

Bindi,

Glad to read you have an appointment with your regular doc next week. I hope you and your doc can work out something that makes you feel better.
Meanwhile, hang in there! We're here for support!

Autumn

I have been on Remeron 45mg for almost five years now. I have had great relief with this med. After I can out of the hospital from the health train wreak I suffered they tried many, many different anti-depressants. None worked and I am very sensitive to medications. I also have Klonepin for a safety net. My family doc is the one who has been treating me for the last two and a half years. I really miss my psychiatric doctor. He was the one to diagnose my illness. I have tried to go off the Remeron before and became a total mess, so I have just learned to accept this illness.



This tread is one of the reasons I found this post. I have done very well on the Remeron for all these years up until now. I have a lot of personal problems in my life right now to boot. I will say I have a wonderful husband and my life is not the worst. The reason I am starting to get worried is I stay tired all the time lately. I am sleeping, but the dreaming has gotten worst. I am eating every thing I can get my hands on and most of it is sugar filled. I have also gotten very, very impatient with everyone and everything. I am terrified of this as I don’t trust my family doctor to change or increase my med. I would go back to my other doctor but he is over three hours away. I have heard so scary stories about people being on Remeron and then it all of a sudden doesn’t work. I have also noticed the negative thoughts. They have gotten really bad and I have these…………um well this sounds really stupid but when I loose my cool I tend to hit my fist on legs or what ever I can to release the pressure. I guess you could say it feels like rage. I am supposed to see my doctor Wednesday and I’m not sure if I want to tell him or not. Any advise for a long term user like myself?

Silverwolfmoon

Sorry to hear you're having a hard time lately. There seems to be a lot going on in your life right now.
I'm glad to read you have an appointment with your doctor on Wednesday. If I can give you any advice, I'd say, be honest with yourself and your doctor (eh, look who's talking , I'm not great at that either but it's important though to be honest. It's the only way he can get a clear view of what is bothering you and how to help you)
Btw, I can totally relate to the 'rage'/pressure you're talking about and what you do to get some relief from it. It doesn't sound stupid at all!
Unfortunately I don't have much experience with long-term use of Remeron. I've only been on it for a year.
I hope you and your doctor can work something out. Let us know how the appointment went, okay?

Take good care of yourself!

Love,
Autumn

Hello Autumn, and thanks for your reply. Forgive my sloppy post last night. I read it again today and it was awful. I think I got the point across anyhow. I was tired and didn't take my time when I wrote it.



I had the same episode today with the feelings of rage. It hit me after my first cup of coffee. (yea I know caffeine isn't the best idea) My husband really hadn't done anything at all and I grew angry with him. He did go out of the house long enough for me to slow down and tell myself not to take it out on him. I really had to make myself seem happy bright and cheery after he came back in. Really all I wanted to do was say fix your lunch yourself, I'm going back to bed. This is definitely not me. I have come a long way with this old rock I carry and I know I've got to do something. I did feel better after I ate a little something but not as good as I have been. I think I will take your advice and just tell my doctor the truth. The worst thing he could do is try and change all my med's. I forget that I have a little say in that part and if I feel totally against it I know he will work with me. I have a real issue with trust and doctors. I guess most of the folks on here can relate to that.



Thanks again for your tread. If nothing else I got to vent my fears. Sometimes that's all one needs.

This post has been edited by silverwolfmoon: Oct 17 2006, 03:16 PM

Silverwolfmoon

We're here for support. I'm glad you're sharing your thoughts with us...
I hope your appointment went well?!

Keep us posted!

Much love,
Autumn

Hi everyone,
I just started taking remeron for major depression, I'm not quite sure what to expect. I'm feeling really tired now which is normal. How is remeron when it comes to adjusting moods? I was previously on celexa and seroquel for a year and they really helped me with sleep and adjusting my moods, I went off them because I was feeling a lot better but the depression did not go away, it came back. I tried to go back on celexa and seroquel but I was having a hard time readjusting to them again so I started seeing a new doctor and he wanted me to try something different. What are some of your experiences with remeron and depression? I wish well being to you all

thanks

Jess_1986,

to the forums! DF is a great place for information and support!
I was sorry to read that the meds you were on before and seemed to work well are giving you trouble now.
Personally, Remeron did wonders for my sleep but I didn't really benefit from it when it came to my mood. But that's just my own experience. A lot of people are doing okay on this med. So, let's see what others have to say about their experiences.

As to the tiredness, yes, that is quite normal. Especially in the beginning. Give yourself some time to get adjusted. Unfortunately antidepressants don't work immediately and often we have to deal with some side-effects first. I hope you get through your start-up okay!
Take good care of yourself and keep us posted on how things evolve! We're here for support!

Much love,
Autumn

Hello everyone,
having been taking Remeron for about 6 days now I have noticed a HUGE improvement in my mood. I mean I'm not 100% but I'm getting better! Two years ago I was diagnosed as being traumatized and with that came a whole series of issues. I experienced a constant cycling of thoughts, major depression, anxiety, insomnia, lack of concentration (I couldn't read things because the words would move on the page), etc.. Now, after having gone on celexa and seroquel (which are good drugs and helped me a lot!), and currently being on Remeron, I can focus more and I've been sleeping a lot better too! I've also been eating which is good because I had lost a lot of weight. My depression is slowly going away; I am trying to be positive and patient :D
I know that the medication will not get rid of the depression on its own, I need to do my part too.

I wish you all good mental health, stay positive

Jess_1986,

Thanks for posting! It's soooo good to hear you are doing okay and that the Remeron seems to be doing its work! I hope you'll continue to feel better!
Are you in therapy (apart from being on meds)?

Take good care of yourself!

Autumn

HI. I'm a 36 year old taking 15 mg. of remeron on my 3rd week. This drug has lifted me out of a negative thought spiral in less than one week. I think it's a gentle drug, but I get hungry at about 2:00 pm and am ravenous for the rest of the day. I'm def. gaining weight. Has anyone had success on Wellbutrin and Remeron combined for depression? How have they affected your appetitie?
I have tried many SSRI over the years and hate the side effects, mainly anxiety and insomnia. Is Wellbutrin even adn SSRI? Thanks for sharing!

Hi Autumn,
yes I am doing a combination of therapy and medication, and it's been working amazlingly! In combination with support from my family and friends while staying positive I've really improved within the last 3 weeks! I feel normal again yay :D I'm not agitated, I don't have thoughts contantly running through my head, etc, it's awesome! It took a long time to get here and for a while there I was terrified, I was almost at the point of having to go to a hospital. But remeron's been helping a lot, and I can function and have normal conversations with people without crying or forgetting what I just said. It's a relief to finally be in control of my depression (I've had it for almost 7-8 years).

wishing everyone love and support

Jess_1986

This is just wonderful news! I'm so glad to hear you are doing okay!
Keep up the good work! And please, keep us posted on how things evolve!

Thanks for posting!

Love,
Autumn

I have been thinking of going back on remeron, I took it several years ago(for about a year) and it helped my sleep and appetite, my only side effect is that it was a little sedating during the day, but I still managed to exercise.
My only concern is the last time I tried it (about a year ago) I felt really exhausted and had a tough time waking up, but I only took it for a few weeks, I don't recall it bein that sedating the first time I took it but it has been several years so maybe I just forgot that it took a few weeks for my body to adjust, anyway I might give it a shot since I have been through most the other antidepressants.

will

Will, I hope Remeron can help you out once more. Yes, it may take a while for your body to adjust to the med. So try not to worry too much about feeling a bit sedated when you're starting out.
Wishing you all the best! Keep us posted on how you're doing. And if you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask them.

Take good care of yourself,

Autumn

Thanks Autumn, I see my doc today, I'm considering remeron and will talk with my doc.Another option I have been looking into is a residential treatment center in california, it's a drug and alcohol rehab, but they specialize in dual diagnosis and mental health, I feel like maybe a structured enviroment would be helpful, plus they have things to do to recover, like individual and group therapy, exercise (pool,sauna,yoga) so there are things to do, and it's a month or two (if I can afford the 2nd month) unlike the hospital were your lucky to stay 2 weeks, and except for a few classes, there's allot of time-with nothing to do.
There's probably another forum are I could post this but I wanted to share it with you.

Also didn't you take remeron before? are you still taking it or are you on different meds?

Will

Hi everyone. My name's Chris and I'm a 35 year old male. I started Mirtazapine (Remeron/Zispin) 4 weeks ago at 15mgs and tolerated it really well. I was a bit sleepy for a couple of days but felt calmer and generally a bit better. My appeteite increased slightly, but no major problem. After 7 or 8 days my mood lightened considerably and I was feeling better than I had in ages. This continued and I had really high hopes for this drug (I've been ill this time since June with severe depression and anxiety). I went to see the psychiatrist and she suggested upping the dose to 30mgs. I did this and carried on feeling OK. However, after 7 days on the higher dose I started to get increased anxiety again. This worsened daily and turned to extreme agitation. I was literally pacing the house, unable to rest or sit. I needed to take huge doses of Valium just to sit still. It was a living hell. I spoke to my psychiatrist who said stop it straight away. I did and it's taking a while for me to settle back down. It's now 6 days since I stopped the drug and am only just starting to settle down. It's been a complete nightmare and has set me back so much. I'm feeling so low now again it's untrue.
I did have a similar reaction to Venlafaxine (Effexor). I also found that Seroxat (Paxil) makes me very anxious and wired initially too. I suppose I must be especially sensitive to any anti-depressants. I wondered has anyone else experienced anything similar as my doc says it incredibly unusual to experience this with Mirtazapine?

Hi Chris - I am on 15mg Remeron, too. I have noticed that others have had agitation on the higher doses on PM moderator for link to website . Maybe your Psych doc could lower you back down to 15 mg? I have had tremendous success at 15 mg; like you, it lifted me out of a deep depression and anxious state in 5 days. I have gained about 3-4 lbs in 4 weeks which he said may level off. My Psych doc said it's typical to reach a stablilized point at about 3 months. I am sorry you've been suffering - good luck on your quest. BTW - Effexor jangled my nerves, too. Maybe Deseryl would work?
Amy



This post has been edited by Autumn: Nov 29 2006, 02:12 PM

Hi, thanks for recommending that site. I've read through it and it's interesting to see that some people have reported agitation and increased anxiety too. Sometimes you get so mixed up and trapped in your head that you don't know what to believe or think. I'm off to see the psychiatrist later today so hopefully will come up with some sort of plan as I feel terrible right now.

Mommibug & ChrisB, first off, to Depression Forums and our Remeron room. I'm glad you found us. DF is a very supportive community.

Mommibug - it's good to hear Remeron has helped you to get out of that negative spiral a bit. I hope you continue to do well. I hope weight gain won't cause you too much trouble. I personally don't have any experience with Remeron in combo with Wellbutrin. Wellbutrin is not an SSRI. For more information check out the Wellbutrin room.

ChrisB - I'm sorry to hear the increased dose caused you so much trouble. Were you and your pdoc able to find another solution?

Will - How did your appointment go? Don't worry about sharing about the drug and alcohol rehab. I'm glad you're getting help and you seem motivated to get better which is really nice to hear. Maybe you could check out the Substance abuse & Recovery forum for your questions concerning this matter and also to get extra support with this.
Yes, I was on Remeron before (30mg). It was a great help as to sleeping. I came off all my meds a few months ago when I was hospitalized. I was on a combination of different meds but they didn't really help my depression.

Keep me posted on how you're doing everyone!
Take care!

Love,
Autum

This post has been edited by Autumn: Nov 29 2006, 02:47 PM

A tiny bit of history - I was diagnosed with depression about 2 1/2 years ago probably caused by a chain reaction of me moving away from home to live with a girl (about 500km away) to me feeling like I could do anything and nothing could stop me!

Its only a matter of time until the building has crumbled around you and you suddenly see what has happened to your life, I had an issue where I had to go out to nightclubs and party every weekend, forget the car bill! forget the phone bill! we have to go out and party!!
This was because I had a deep fear of becoming alone so I always had to be doing something social, when I was alone I felt sad and empty, I often became depressed at night lying there thinking about good things that had happened in the past, and feeling like I would never experience them again (my Pdoc was a little confused when I said it was the GOOD things from my past as 1 of the reasons for my depression!!) , I was working then studying, both full time getting 4-5 hours of sleep and never seeing my gf so soon we broke up and this left me a mess, with a good friend helping me move out and in with him and things just kept going down, from debt collectors visiting me to threats to repo of my very lovely car :(.
I had to talk to someone so went to a doctor who put me on citalopram 20mg which numbed all my feelings, life just flew past with my mind feeling numb, left work and was on a sickness benefit but managed to find a beautiful girl and things were not so bad until I had no money to pay rent because I didn't set my priorities straight, soon I was living with another friend who 'saved' me, he was from my course and had bipolar and was on 40mg citalopram, he had a gf and a kid but the place was a mess and the citalopram was only just holding my life together, in the end I broke up with my gf and I couldnt manage a thing on my own and had to move back home.
I met up with friends I hadn't seen in years and stayed on the citalopram until one day I felt cured and happy and went off and suddenly it was like my life had opened up and my brain could actually think again!! all this lost time with debts from so long ago still knocking on my door finally made me do something totally different..........
I was going to move to Brisbane Australia!!- (I was from New Zealand), I had a mate move there this year in jan and it was may so I decided to go there august this year and started saving my benefit (I still hadn't gone back to working yet) so this done I ended up here and my mate had set me up with a job - crap work but good money, the work soon became hard and a guy there sold weed so I ended up becoming stoned alot and while I have met 2 girls here which I no longer see, I still really don't know anyone here, soon I got the flu and wasn't allowed a day off work so I quit and had enough money to live for 2 months before running out.
I tried for ages to find work, and finally did but all my past was coming back to haunt me, A rush of sadness from deep within my body, I stayed home by myself more and more and started having a social anxiety which didn't mix well, I wasn't sleeping well, until a quick relationship here which ended fast just put me over the edge, we both thought it was for the best but it ripped me apart and she didn't know it, I went to my doctor and he gave me 10mg Valium x50 at a time I was ready to end it all!! = some dazed guy trying to numb his feelings, I took then 5 at a time and when they started to wear off I just got more depressed and called a depression hot line and was told to go to A&E at the hospital.
Wow! never been here before, I told them how much Valium I had and they said it wasn't too bad and after talking to Pdocs I finally left (they gave me a nice roast meal too!) with 24 Avanza (Mirtazapine) tablets and some Temazepam and was told to go to a Mental Health clinic to see a Pdoc.
This is me now, 30mg Avanza a day and trying to get things together, its about my 14th day on this medication, was on 15mg for the first few days and my mind is just numb but I can still feel sad, I don't know what to do anymore!! I'm working 2 days a week in the electronics industry, mainly selling electronic components to repair things but also giving advice and its hard to think some days, its hard to greet people with a smile! This mirtazapine is really making me feel like my head is just a warm empty ball, Somedays in the afternoon I feel stimulated like having 2 coffees really fast, somedays I will be numb all day. Its 2007 in 2 days and I will be 24 in a month and I while I have done so much I have lost so much and hopefully I wake up one day seeing exactly how I want my life to be, but for now at least I am still here.

I sit in my room most of the time on the net, otherwise i'm at work or asleep, thats about all I do and i'm just staring at the clouds trying to understand whats happening to me :(.

Thank you for listening and hopefully you didn't find this too boring.


Mike :)

Mike

hows it going mate? Well im from Perth australia

I read your long message and i can fully relate wat u said to experiences i still am having.

I would love to be able to talk to you more about this (cause sometimes it can help), im 19 years old btw.

If u wanna chat i have msn messenger, add me *

Hope to hear from u soon

Matt

* PM Matt for the address (or you can put your address in your member profile, Matt - we try to avoid addresses on the boards - thanks for your understanding, Autumn)

This post has been edited by Autumn: Dec 30 2006, 05:18 AM

Mike,

to DF and our Remeron room!
Your story wasn't boring at all. It gives us members a good impression of who you are and what you are going through. Thanks for sharing!
I hope the Remeron can bring you some relief. It takes some time for an AD to start working (unfortunately). I read your in your second week now, so I hope you see some improvement soon.

Meanwhile, take good care of yourself! We're here for support!
Keep us posted on how things evolve...

Be well...
Autumn

Hi,

I just started remeron and I'm seeing positive effects. The only bad thing with me is that i sleep a lot. Could this be battled using dopamine stimulants like L-Tyrosine? Anyone tried anything similar?

Thanks for a great community.

ThatMadGuy,

to DF!

I'm glad to hear you're seeing some improvement on Remeron.
Sleeping a lot (or insomnia on the other end) can be a symptom of depression. So maybe it'll subside when you're starting to fully benefit from your AD (I don't know how long you've been using Remeron - but you say you just started so... it can take several weeks for an AD to fully work)
My other thought was that you may feel tired / sedated and thus sleep more 'cause it can be a start-up side effect from Remeron. This should normally lessen once you're body's adjusted to the meds.
I can't answer your question about dopamine stimulants. Maybe you could address your doc about this...

Wishing you well...

Keep us posted!

Autumn

hey everyone, i'm new on the boards in the sense that i finally worked up the courage to register but i've been lurking for a while. Just wanted to know if anyone has any information/experience regarding developing an immunity to Mirtazapine/Remeron. I've been on it for about 4 months now after i developed a tolerance to Zoloft. About a month ago i noticed that i was feeling pretty low again (paranoia, ocd etc) so my doctor upped my dosage from 30 to 60mg. I was feeling great, really excited about going back to uni and working and now all of a sudden in the last week or so I've gone back to thinking everyone hates me blah blah blah.
Do you think it's worth upping the dosage again, or should i try a new medication?

Hi everyone. I'm new to the forum. I've been prescribed mirtazapine last Thurs for chronic insomnia and have taken only 3 tablets so far. From the forum it seems like tiredness and drowsiness is a common side effect of the meds but the first day after I took my first dose I felt terrible. It was almost as if I was half awake. I couldn't function at work properly as it felt like I was reacting a few seconds slower than I should. I persisted and continued to take the meds over the weekend but I continued to feel like a zombie. I've stopped for the past 2 nights and I felt better and more alert yesterday. I'm feeling tired the second day after but not as bad as when I took mirtazapine.

I know it is common to feel tired and sleepy when starting this medication but is my reaction normal? I'm split between whether to continue or just stop it altogether. My doc only sees patients once a week so I'm kind of torn. I know if I take it tonight, it's likely I will have to drag myself through work again tomorrow. It's terrible coz my job requires to be constantly alert.

Would definitely like to hear from other users' experiences.

Remeron can have stop working quickly for some people. If you have raised the dose to 60mg, and it's not working, I would talk to the doctor about a different medication.

KA

You didn't mention what dose you are taking, but one of the unusual things about Remeron is that it tends to cause more drowsiness at lower doses (under 30mg). Talk to your doctor about the extreme tiredness that you are experiencing. You could be experiencing normal start-up effects or your dosage may need to be adjusted.

KA

Lady_muck,
I agree with KA... If you upped your dosage to 60mg and it's not working I think it's best to discuss this with your doc. I always thought the max. dose was 45mg, but I remember someone else on the board being on a higher dose.
Hang in there!

Ahaes, starting meds can be hard (definitely when you working etc,...). I'm sorry to hear the sedation is bothering you that much. Do tell you doc about this.

Keep us posted on how things go for the both of you!

Welcome again to the room

Autumn

This post has been edited by Autumn: Jan 30 2007, 03:44 PM

I'm so encouraged by the prompt response to my posting!

I was prescribed 15mg soltabs. Neither the doc nor the pharmacist warned me about the possible drastic drowsiness I'll feel. Only the pharmacist mentioned that I may feel drowsy after taking it and to take the medicine at night. Doc even said I could take it concurrently with my sleeping meds.

I decided to go without the medicine last night as I'm worried I won't be able to function at work again. I may try again on Fri and see if I feel better after the weekend. If not, I will see the doc again. May even change doc as I feel the current one I'm seeing is not very good.