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Sep 10 2004, 01:10 AM
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i have been taking remeron for... about 2 1/2 months I guess, and a month ago I upped from 15mg to 30mg a day. It seemed to really help me at 15mg, and my doc and I thought an increase would be good, since this medicine supposedly has less side effects at higher dosages. The 15mg made me really tired, but helped. Now that I've been on 30 mg for a while, I feel pretty down again, and I've also noticed that I've gained some weight (not typical weight gain, it seemed too sudden) and I didn't really even change my eating habits. So I'm wondering if anyone has had a similar experience. I feel less tired, I think, but it seems to me that the other side effects are worst with an increased dosage, despite what has been said about this med. I know everyone is different, I was just wondering if anyone had a similar experience. I can't tell if I need to lower my dose back to 15mg a day, or if I should raise it. I am also taking Wellbutrin XL, just so you know, I know 15 and 30mg aren't really that much. The WB by itself made me too irritable.
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Sep 10 2004, 09:23 AM
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I'm still taking my 1/4 to 1/2 of a 15 mg pill at night to help me sleep, and it's still working wonders. Without it, I don't sleep more than 3 hours before I'm awake, tossing and turning. I'm actually NOT looking forward to the day I stop taking it! :;):
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Aug 12 2005, 08:16 PM
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I've been on up to 90, on 60 now. I'm pretty much normal with meds but have experienced crippling OCD, Depression and anxiety.
It started to get really bad (ocd) when I was about to graduate from college. A few years later I was off meds and was run over on my moped and nearly killed..bounced from med to med and finally ended up with a working combination.
nothing touched the OCD like remeron. Other drugs had helped but nothing like the remeron did. Stopped the ocd totally.
I am also on 100mg of seroquel and 6mg klonepin which seems to help with the mood and impulsive behavior.
If you are ocd and have tried everything remeron will be worth a try. I was on zyprexa for a little while that didn't help anything.
Was on zoloft, buspar, anafranil, effexor, serzone, effexor helped the most but it really messed me up when I missed a dose, didn't like that.
so from the A to Z of psych meds remeron helped me the most.
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Jan 7 2006, 11:49 PM
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I've been on Remeron RD 15mg for 2 weeks. I feel really tired after taking it. I know it's still a pretty early time to rid side effects and for the medication to start working. But the drowsiness is making me oversleep. I can't seem to get up in the morning. I was late for school once because I slept in. I have weekly checkups with my doctor, he said that the sedative effects will pby slowly go away after another week or so? has anyone experienced tiredness for more than 2 weeks?
This post has been edited by yan: Jan 7 2006, 11:49 PM
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Jan 8 2006, 06:09 AM
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Yan,  to the board! Yes, I was pretty tired in the beginning. It should lessen over time. Even now, when I take my meds before going to bed, it makes me very sleepy within half a hour or so. I don't have any more trouble getting up though. It is also known that the 15mg causes more sedation than the higher dosages (I'm on 30mg myself). It doesn't sound logical, I know. But it is how Remeron works. I hope you get through the start-up side-effects! Keep us posted! Luv, Autumn
This post has been edited by Autumn: Jan 8 2006, 06:10 AM
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Feb 11 2006, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(yan @ Jan 8 2006, 09:11 PM)  Hmm... I hope the sedative effects will soon go away. I've looked up many antidepressants... but none of them say they are safe to use on persons 18 years old or younger... are there? I like the taste of Remeron.. tastes like oranges
I have generally low BP. around 95/55. so sometimes i feel faint and black out when i stand up. but after taking remeron... it seems to be worse... i would get lightheaded for every posture change nearly. For example, I would get dizzy and blackout for about 5 seconds and return to normal when i get out of the shower... this usually doesn't happen. any ideas? Hi everyone, I am new here, but wanted to share my experience. I have been struggling with depression/anxiety for a few years and been tried on just about EVERY antidepressant. I am so sensitive to side effects that I have had terrible luck. I have finally had success with Remeron in that it has the most tolerable side effects for me, although the sedation if not really that tolerable.......but I am managing to function to some degree. I am taking 15 mg and it does certainly help with sleep. I tried for a month to get up to and stay at 30mg, as it is supposed to be LESS sedating at higher doses, but I could hardly move off my couch. I do have a ravenous appetite, which is a pain. Have gained 10 pounds and managing to snack on healthy things and stave off a lot more weight gain. Staying away from refined carbs helps, although I crave them. So, my current dilemma is that I need to find another antidep to add to the mix as I still have some symptoms and sedation. I have tried ritalin and did not like how it felt. My doc wants me to try lamictal now, which I am going to start tomorrow. Any experiences??? I am afraid of side effects, but am williing to do anything. I also take ativan when I need it. In a nutshell (pardon the term), I love remeron in that it is the only antidep I can tolerate in the least, but I DO have sedation from it and need to add to the mix. I really would love to have the energy to go to the gym again and run around with my kids..... there you have it. peace, gigi
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Feb 16 2006, 12:56 PM
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Hi Canadian Girl, Yes, I think it's quite common and normal to feel tired. I'm on 30mg myself and I remember it making me very drowsy real fast in the beginning. I took it about half an hour before bedtime and it sure knocked me out in that half hour. I was tired in the morning in the beginning as well but it decreased once I'd gotten used to the med. Try going to bed and getting up at the same time each day even if it was hard those first few days. I guess those are the hardest. I hope you get through the start-up side-effects. Hang in there and keep us posted on how you're doing! Luv, Autumn QUOTE(Canadian Girl @ Feb 16 2006, 12:26 AM)  Hi.I took 7.5 mg's of remeron last night at 10pm. It only took 40 minutes to make me extremely tired and it was all I could do to brush my teeth and get ready for bed! I slept for 12 hours and then lay in bed for 2 more! I can't believe it knocked me right off my feet like that. I am a bit drowsy now and a bit dizzy or something like that.My mouth is a little dry too, but other than that no real side effects. is it normal to be that tired? I knew it would make me sleep good but I was unprepared for it to knock me off my feet like that.I have had bad insomnia for a month from taking paxil, so mabey last night made up for the whole month of not sleeping,lol. I was supposed to go on a fun trip out of town with my b/f this morning, and I absolutely could not get up and go. he was so nice about it and is totally fine with going tomorrow but I felt bad and what if i feel the same way tomorrow? Im almost afraid to take the pill again tonight , i might sleep all day tomorrow. Anyway other than that its ok so far. i'll keep you posted.
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Feb 22 2006, 05:26 PM
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Hi Autumn and Canadian girl,
I am going to jump in here. I have been on remeron for 3 months now. It has helped with the depression to some extent, but the sedation is really limiting my abilities..... I have played with doses of it, going up to the 30 mg as that was supposed to be more activating. Not for me. Could hardly move for those 2 weeks! So, I have gone back down to 15 mg, but can feel some of the depression symptoms coming back here and there AND still have profound sedation. I DO love how well I sleep at night, though! I still wake up pretty early by 5:30 am, but that is better than 3 am!
So, my pdoc tried adding lamictal, ritalin, adderal, provigil, wellbutrin, etc. They all disagreed with me in one way or another. We also tried adding ssri's, but I just don't tolerate those, never have. So, I am feeling quite unsettled about all of this. I literally have been through all of the AD's at this point, except for the MAO inhibitors, which I hesitate to venture towards because of the dietary restrictions. And I don't know if I can live off of AD's and tolerate the depression....
That is my story. For now I am going to hang with this 15 mg remeron for a few more days. My pdoc is out of town until March 8th.
Good luck to both of you. It is such a challenge, this illness and treatment....... But support from others is really so comforting.
peace, gretchen
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Feb 22 2006, 09:22 PM
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Thanks for your reply. Yes, I have tried imipramine, desipramine, nortryptilene and protriptylene. My problem seems to be sedation. And even the "activating tricyclics" caused sedation for me. The TC also elevated my resting heart rate. I stayed on them for 7 months until my primary care doctor said I was risking my heart.
I appreciate any input.
take care, gretchen
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Mar 4 2006, 07:00 AM
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Hi Autumn,
So glad to hear that you are doing well coming down from the dose. Are you going to start on another medication when you go off of remeron? I am also on 15mg now. Still have sedation effects during the daytime on it, but holding my own. Day by day.
good luck!
best, gigi
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Mar 4 2006, 10:50 AM
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Hi Gigi, Well, my pdoc started me on a neuroleptic (Solian, not marketed in the US) a while ago, to augment my AD's. It helps with anxiety as well. Since I was feeling pretty sedated she decided to lower my dose of Remeron. My sleep's improved while being on Remeron. If it stays this way I think I can come off it slowly. I don't know 'bout the antidepressant effect of Remeron. My mood's not really great. As a matter of fact I feel pretty 'numb' at the moment. I don't really feel anything. Everything's pretty flat and it seems like I'm just bored or something. I can't get interested in conversations or activities. It's annoying. I don't know if this is part of my depression. But this has been going on for weeks now and this 'state' I'm in is pretty much driving me up the wall. It's hard not to get angry with myself for being so apathetic. I don't know what to do about it really. Do I just wait for it to pass? I do things, like going out with a friend, drawing, listening to music, sports,... but the feeling's just not there. It's so hard to stay motivated this way. It's like it doesn't matter whether I do it or not. My mood's just non-reactive I hope the sedation effects will lessen in a little while. Wishing you well! Take care, Autumn
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Mar 7 2006, 06:20 AM
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Hi Autumn,
I can totally relate to the "non-reactive" feeling. I feel very apathetic and unmotivated and lazy on remeron. I am normally a very high functioning , busy person so this feeling is very strange and uncomfortable for me. I really just feel like sitting around on the couch a lot. But I also do have moments in the day when I have energy and can do things. I do think it is the remeron for me. But, it helps so much with sleep and appetite and has helped with the depression to some degree. I feel rather stuck "between a rock and hard place," as I am at the end of line of ADs. I see my pdoc tomorrow. We'll see. I just take this one day at a time now. best of luck to you and be in touch,
gigi
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Mar 10 2006, 11:39 AM
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Hi Everyone,
I've been taking Mirtazapine for 3 weeks today, am now on 45mg at night (also on 20mg Citalopram)
The first night I hadn't had anything to eat for at least 6 hours before taking it (15mg) and had really, really restless legs and arms.....I was lying in bed half asleep but just had to keep moving my legs and arms, this lasted about an hour or so and then hasn't happened again...until last night, but it wasn't as bad as the last time.
I have had this restless legs thing before so it may be nothing to do with Mirtazapine - Just wondered if anyone else had experienced this?
Thanks for reading
Sue, xx
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