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post Aug 14 2004, 08:32 PM
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I thought this list would be interesting to look at for all of you with bipolar disorder.  Or even those with the illness in their family.

Many famous people are believed to have been affected by bipolar disorder, based on evidence in their own writings and contemporaneous accounts by those who knew them. Some of these people include:


* Buzz Aldrin
* Adam Ant (Stuart Goddard)
* Tim Burton
* Lord Byron
* Jim Carrey
* Winston Churchill
* Rosemary Clooney
* Kurt Cobain
* Francis Ford Coppola
* Bing Crosby
* Jean Claude van Damme
* Ray Davies
* Carrie Fisher
* Connie Francis
* Peter Gabriel
* Vincent van Gogh
* Linda Hamilton
* Ernest Hemingway
* Victor Hugo
* Sarah Kane
* Margot Kidder
* Vivien Leigh
* Robert Lowell
* Spike Milligan
* Marilyn Monroe
* Florence Nightingale
* Sylvia Plath
* Jackson Pollock
* Axl Rose
* Robert Schumann
* Anne Sexton
* Frank Sinatra
* Ben Stiller
* Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky
* Ted Turner
* Tom Waits
* Robin Williams
* Jonathan Winters
* Virginia Woolf


There is no definitive scientific basis for classifying dead people as having had bipolar disorder, though they may very well have suffered from severe and even recurrent bouts of disordered mood. Until very recently there were no diagnostic systems with any degree of reliability. Even with the development of tools such as DSM-IV, there is a great deal of diagnostic uncertainty with living patients who have been intensively studied for decades, and there is no reason to think that it is any easier to diagnose individuals in their graves. For these reasons, some doctors regard psycho-history of this sort as a dubious endeavour.

There appears to be an association between bipolar disorder and talent in many cases - this is documented in Jamison's book "Touched With Fire: Manic-Depressive Illness and the Artistic Temperament".

Some also believe that the manic state is a type of universal connection which provides creativity and intelligence but comes with the price of the depressive low.

taken from http://www.llpoh.org/Common-Diseases/Bipolar_disorder.html

also a list from Kay Redfield Jamison's book, Touched With Fire:

Famous Writers with Bipolar Disorders


The following list is drawn from Kay Jamison's Touched With Fire; Manic-Depressive Ilness and the Artistic Temperament

In Appendix B: Writers, Artists, and Composers with Probable Cyclothymia, Major Depression, or Manic-Depressive Illness.

"This is meant to be an illustrative rather than a comprehensive list; for systematic studies, see text. Most of the writers, composers, and artists are American, British, European, Irish, or Russian; all are deceased . . . Many if not most of these writers, artists, and composers had other major problems as well, such as medical illnesses, alcoholism or drug addiction, or exceptionally difficult life circumstances. They are listed here as having suffered from a mood disorder because their mood symptoms predated their other conditions, because the nature and course of their mood and behavior symptoms were consistent with a diagnosis of an independently existing affective illness, and/or because their family histories of depression, manic-depressiveillness, and suicide--coupled with their own symptoms--were sufficiently strong to warrant their inclusion."


KEY:
    H = Asylum or psychiatric hospital
    S = Suicide
    SA = Suicide attempt


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* Hans Christian Andersen
* Honore de Balzac
* James Barrie
* Arthur Benson (H)
* E.F. Benson
* James Boswell
* William Faulkner (H)
* F. Scott Fitzgerald (H)
* Lewis Grassic Gibbon (SA)
* Nikolai Gogl
* Maxim Gorky (SA)
* Kenneth Graham
* Graham Greene
* Ernest Hemingway (H, S)
* Hermann Hesse (H, SA)
* Henrik Ibsen
* William Inge (H, S)
* Henry James
* William James
* Charles Lamb (H)
* Malcolm Lowry (H, S)
* John Bunyan
* Samuel Clemens (Mark Twain)
* Joseph Conrad (SA)
* Charles d**kens
* Isak Dinesen (SA)
* Ralph Waldo Emerson
* Herman Melville
* Eugene O'Neill (H, SA)
* Francis Parkman
* John Ruskin (H)
* Mary Shelley
* Jean Stafford (H)
* Robert Louis Stevenson
* August Strindberg
* Leo Tolstoy
* Ivan Turgenev
* Tennessee Williams (H)
* Mary Wollstonecraft (SA)
* Virginia Woolf (H, S)
* Emile Zola

Modified August 6, 2004

Famous Musicians & Composers with Bipolar Disorders


The following list is drawn from Kay Jamison's Touched With Fire; Manic-Depressive Ilness and the Artistic Temperament

In Appendix B: Writers, Artists, and Composers with Probable Cyclothymia, Major Depression, or Manic-Depressive Illness.

KEY:
    H = Asylum or psychiatric hospital
    S = Suicide
    SA = Suicide attempt


Composers

* Anton Arensky
* Hector Berlioz (SA)
* Anton Bruckner (H)
* Jeremiah Clarke (S)
* John Dowland
* Edward Elgar
* Carlo Gesualdo
* Mikhail Glinka
* George Frederic Handel
* Gustav Holst
* Charles Ives
* Otto Klemperer (H)
* Orlando de Lassus
* Gustav Mahler
* Modest Mussorgsky
* Sergey Rachmaninoff
* Giocchino Rossini
* Robert Schumann (H, SA)
* Alexander Scriagbin
* Peter Tchaikovsky
* Peter Warlock (S)
* Hugo Wolf (H, SA)
* Bernd Alois Zimmerman (S)


Nonclassical composers and musicians


* Irving Berlin (H)
* Noel Coward
* Stephen Foster
* Charles Mingus (H)
* Charles Parker (H, SA)
* Cole Porter (H)
* Bud Powell (H)
* Kurt Cobain, musician (Nirvana) (S 1994)

Modified August 6, 2004

Famous Poets with Bipolar Disorders


The following list is drawn from Kay Jamison's Touched With Fire; Manic-Depressive Ilness and the Artistic Temperament

In Appendix B: Writers, Artists, and Composers with Probable Cyclothymia, Major Depression, or Manic-Depressive Illness.

KEY:
    H = Asylum or psychiatric hospital
    S = Suicide
    SA = Suicide attempt


* Antonin Artaud (H)
* Konstantin Batyushkov (H, SA)
* Charles Baudelaire (SA)
* Thomas Lovell Beddoes (S)
* John Berryman (H, S)
* William Blake
* Aleksandr Blok
* Barcroft Boake (S)
* Louis Bogan (H)
* Rupert Brooke
* Robert Burns
* George Gordon, Lord Byron
* Thomas Campbell
* Paul Celan (S)
* Thomas Chatterton (S)
* John Clare (H)
* Harley Coleridge
* Samuel Taylor Coleridge
* William Collins (H)
* William Cowper (H, SA)
* Hart Crane (S)
* George Darley
* John Davidson (S)
* Emily d**kinson - more
* Ernest Dowson
* T.S. Eliot (H)
* Sergey Esenin (S)
* Robert Fergusson (H)
* Afanasy Fet (SA)
* Anne Finch, Countess of Winchilsea
* Edward FitzGerald
* John Gould Fletcher (S)
* Gustaf Froding (SA, H)
* Oliver Goldsmith
* Adam Lindsay Gordon (S)
* Thomas Gray
* Nikolai Gumilyov (SA)
* Robert Stephen Hawker
* Friedrich Holderlin (H)
* Gerard Manley Hopkins - More
* Victor Hugo
* Randal Jarrell (H, S)
* Samuel Johnson
* John Keats - More
* Henry Kendall (H)
* Velimir Khlebnikov (H)
* Heinrich Von Kleist (S)
* Walter Savage Landor
* Nikolaus Lenau (H)
* J.M.R. Lenz (SA)
* Mikhail Lermontov
* Vachel Lindsay (S)
* James Russell Lowell
* Robert Lowell (H)
* Hugh MacDiarmid (H)
* Louis MacNeice
* Osip Mandelstam (H, SA)
* James Clarence Mangan
* Vladimir Mayakovsky (S)
* Edna St. Vincent Millay (H)
* Alfred de Musset
* Gerard de Nerval (H, S)
* Boris Pasternak (H)
* Cesare Pavese (S)
* Sylvia Plath (H, S)
* Edgar Allan Poe (SA)
* Ezra Pound (H)
* Alexander Pushkin
* Laura Riding (SA)
* Theodore Roethke (H)
* Delmore Schwartz (H)
* Anne Sexton (H, S)
* Percy Bysshe Shelley - More (SA)
* Christopher Smart (H)
* Torquato Tasso (H)
* Sara Teasdale (H, S)
* Alfred, Lord tennyson
* Dylan Thomas
* Edward Thomas
* Francis Thompson
* George Trakl (H, S)
* Marina Tsvetayeva (S)
* Walt Whitman - More

Modified August 6, 2004

Famous Artists with Bipolar Disorders


The following list is drawn from Kay Jamison's Touched With Fire; Manic-Depressive Ilness and the Artistic Temperament

In Appendix B: Writers, Artists, and Composers with Probable Cyclothymia, Major Depression, or Manic-Depressive Illness.

KEY:
    H = Asylum or psychiatric hospital
    S = Suicide
    SA = Suicide attempt


* Ralph Barton (S)
* Francesco Bassano (S)
* Ralph Blakelock (H)
* Francesco Borromini (S)
* John Sell Cotman
* Richard Dadd (H)
* Edward Dayes (S)
* Thomas Eakins
* Paul Gauguin (SA)
* Theodore Gericault
* Hugo van der Goes
* Vincent van Gogh (H, S)
* Arshile Gorky (S)
* Philip Guston (H)
* Benjamin Haydon (S)
* Carl Hill (H)
* Ernst Josephson (H)
* George Innes (SA)
* Ernst Ludwig Kirchner (H, S)
* Edwin Landseer (H)
* Edward Lear
* Wilhelm Lehmbruck (S)
* John Martin
* Charles Meryon (H)
* Michelangelo Buonarroti
* Adolphe Monticelli
* Edvard Munch (H)
* Jules Pascin (S)
* Georgia O'Keeffe (H)
* Raphaelle Peal (H)
* Jackson Pollock (H)
* George Romney
* Dante Gabriel Rossetti (SA)
* Mark Rothko (S)
* Nicolas de Stael (S)
* Pietro Testa (S)
* Henry Tilson (S)
* George Frederic Watts
* Sir David Wilkie
* Anders Zorn

Modified August 6, 2004

Famous Living People with Bipolar Disorders  (some of these are repeats from the first list above)



Here is an short list of famous LIVING bipolars (manic depressives). For an exhaustive, up-to-date list please visit Joy Ikelmann's Bipolar Info page. Joy is gradually compiling her list as people who are bipolar release this information to the public.

The following individuals have stated publicly that they are bipolar:

* Robert Boorstin, writer, special assistant to Pres. Clinton
* Rosemary Clooney, singer
* d**k Cavett, writer, media personality
* Kitty Dukakis, former First Lady of Massachusetts
* Patty Duke (Anna Pearce), actor, writer
* Connie Francis, actor, musician
* Peter Gabriel, musician
* Shecky Greene, comedian
* Kristin Hersh, musician (Throwing Muses)
* Peter Nolan Lawrence, writer
* Bill Lichtenstein, producer (TV & radio)
* Kristy McNichols, actor
* Kate Millett, writer
* Spike Mulligan, comic actor and writer, Patron of the MFD
* Murray Pezim
* Charley Pride, musician
* Axl Rose, musician
* John Strugnell, Biblical scholar, Harvard
* Ted Turner, entrepreneur, media giant (U.S.)
* Jonathon Winters, comedian, actor, writer, artist

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post Aug 16 2004, 12:09 PM
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This is very interesting.  Personally, I believe that I have done some of my best creative work while hypomanic or manic.


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Yes, SC, I am afraid that's most likely the case with me also.  The hypomanic state... I don't think I'm too productive when in a full blown manic state.  I'm too irritable and angry.  :(
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Oh this fits me!!! I used to write poetry during my depressive state. Now I lay around and think of design. Not to brag but my thing is interior design now. I sit around and think of how to make my house into my own paradise. So far so good.....I actually love that part of being bipolar.
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:p  The list of famous folks w/bpd was veryyyyy interesting - ya know, I can't help but wonder - where did any of the ones alive today find health insurance!?   Just found out today I am being "denied" because of this diagnosis.....not to happy with that news.
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Yeah, I was denied also.  Big bummer.  Too much of a risk.   :(
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This is interesting.  I draw fairly well and like to write.  I recently had to participate in a class at work and part of the class consisted of getting feedback from your associates.  One month prior to the class I had to pass out a questionare to 12 associates and they had to rate me on a scale of 1-5 in 8 different categories.  I scored the highest in creativty and innovation and the lowest in interpersonal relationships and teamwork......who would have thought  :joker:


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cat...

that is really interesting.  

thanks for sharing that with us.

I know that i am most creative as well when i am in my keyed up state as well.    :p
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Great list of personalities with bipolar. Thanks for sharing this with us. I used to be creative until I was diagnosed with BP. The drugs took away the creativity and I really liked to write. I had a book in progress to be published. The manuscript is stashed away somewhere and will probably never be finished. I think we are all gifted people with BP.
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Cat, Touched With Fire is the first, the absolute first thing that came to mind when I read the topic title, wonderful and absorbing book!


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yes, Touched with Fire is a fascinating book.  If you haven't read it, you should.  It's by Kay Redfield Jamison (who also wrote An Unquiet Mind).  Dr. Jamison suffers from bipolar disorder herself.  Thanks Plumdinger, for sharing that with us.
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I just read that Owen Wilson was hospitalized today for a suicide attempt. sad.gif

Even funny people hurt too.

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I go to a liberal arts college, and many of my friends are artists and musicians. I'm almost positive at least a few are manic depressive, and have been hospitalized for related issues before (without a diagnosis on anything but depression though). Most creative people tend to be a little more off-kilter than people who go into business or more cut-and-dry things.

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I just read that Owen Wilson was hospitalized today for a suicide attempt. sad.gif

Even funny people hurt too.


It is in my experience that funny people often hurt the most. tear2.gif

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I'm 31. I started writing horror stories at age 18, the same age I was diagnosed Bi-Polar. I started making horror films at age 27 (none you've heard of) the same age my Bi-Polar progressed into Panic/Anxiety. My best work comes out not when I'm depressed, but when I'm between depression and mania. That ultra fine line between where fantasy and reality dance very closely together. I find that when we are filming I get very anxious and usually turn manic, this usually leads to very productive shoots and also I am able to flex my story more and really zip through things as I have no problem Directing when I'm on cloud nine.
Now, the problem is at the end of the day when it's all over I come crashing down into a deep depression. I am on Wellbutrin XL and Lithium. These work well together for me, but when it's time to get busy with my craft I always get manic. Theres no stopping it, I dont think I would really want to lose that edge, it's just the aftermath that sucks.
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Most definitely. I think when a bipolar person is moody their senses can become more sensitive. I have noticed a few times during extremely moody/racing/agitated periods colors really jump out at me. Looking at a field in the Fall I can differentiate between the thousands of shades of brown and grey (Winter). Same goes for music: I can hear all of the nuances of notes/chords: tones, overtones, feedback, sustain, etc.
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I am having so much trouble focusing my creativity on my school work. I want to paint and write my poems and express my angry and sad feelings. I can't do that through my school writings so they are getting neglected. Any advice?
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QUOTE (linny1288 @ Apr 15 2008, 06:02 AM) *
I am having so much trouble focusing my creativity on my school work. I want to paint and write my poems and express my angry and sad feelings. I can't do that through my school writings so they are getting neglected. Any advice?


Hi and Welcome Linny

Have you thought of focusing it on things other than school work and then leaving your school work free for just school work. Things like keeping a journal, starting a blog. You could keep a book of poetry that you write and paint, that does not need to be handed in for school. Just for yourself. In that way, you get your creativity out, release your feelings and don't allow it to affect your school work.

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I am sooooooooooo creative when I am unmedicated. If I were to be locked alone in a house with no television or computer, no neighbors, and no medication, I would be a best selling author. I am an amazing writer when at my craziest. On medication.... nothing.

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QUOTE (Sweet Melissa @ Jul 15 2009, 09:56 AM) *
I am an amazing writer when at my craziest. On medication.... nothing.


That´s what I fear :(
I´m a dancer, designer and drawer. When I´m depressed I do almost nothing...but when I have a manic episode it leads me to the best of it all. I even won a design award (and I was in a manic episode during the time I sewed it).
God, I fear therapy so much, because I dont want any medication. I dont want to live without mania.
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Ive remodeled 2 homes. Took 20 years and have been told they are phenominal and that is what I should be doing for a living..... no, can't do that... I'm a perfectionist and it takes to long to get things perfect to make any money.... everything I do must be done exactly right or not at all.... I research everything before and during a project. I spend to much $$ to get things right.
Having bipolar issues can be a good and bad thing. I would rather be normal and not worry so much about the things that dont' bother others. Yes, bipolar people can be creative,smart and intellectual...... we just have brain chemical imbalances that cause emotional problems that effect our loved ones the most.


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