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Sep 29 2006, 08:33 PM
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http://www.openmindsopendoors.com/A NewVideo.wmv QUOTE The OpenMindsOpenDoors campaign revolves around five key messages about stigma and discrimination.
People who have mental illnesses have the same needs as everyone else. Meaningful work, decent affordable housing, access to health care, a sufficient public education, positive relationships, and acceptance by family and peers matter to each of us.
People who have mental illnesses can and do recover and live productive lives. Recovery means different things to different people. It can mean being able to hold down a job. It can mean going back to school. Or, it can mean working to one's capacity. Or, it can mean having a close relationship with family and friends. Whether recovery comes from drugs, from traditional therapy, from alternative treatments, or from prayer, one common theme is a feeling of responsibility for one's life and a sense of control over one's problems.
People who have mental illnesses make valuable contributions to society. Abraham Lincoln and Winston Churchill experienced depression. Actress Patty Duke and musician Peter Gabriel live with manic depression. Nobel laureate John Nash lives with schizophrenia. Overcoming the stigma associated with a mental illness, seeking and getting treatment, and being part of a support network enable people living with mental illnesses to reclaim their lives and to enjoy meaningful careers.
Discrimination against people who have mental illnesses keeps them from seeking help. Mental health is as important as physical health to the overall well-being of individuals, societies and countries. Yet only a small minority of the 450 million people living with a mental or behavioral disorder is receiving treatment.1 While one in five Americans lives with a mental disorder in any given year, half of people with severe mental illnesses received no treatment in the past 12 months.2 Fear of disclosure, rejection by friends, and ultimately discrimination are just a few reasons why people with mental illnesses don't seek help.
Discrimination against people who have mental illnesses violates their basic human rights. Despite the provisions of the Americans with Disabilities Act and other civil rights laws, people with mental illnesses experience discrimination in the workplace, education, housing, healthcare, and at home. In a survey, people with mental health problems report being denied a job (39%), forced to resign from a job (34%), forced to move because of harassment (26%), and unwilling to apply for a job because of fear of discrimination (69%).3
Breaking down the stigma of mental illness can close the door on discrimination. And open it to opportunity -- the right to affordable housing, health care, equal opportunity employment, and sufficient public education. For those living with a mental illness it's a journey from shame and isolation to dignity and responsibility.
Learn more about what you can do to end stigma and stop discrimination. 1. The World Health Report 2001, "Mental Health: New Understanding, New Hope," World Health Organization, 2001. 2. America's Mental Health Survey, National Mental Health Association, 2001. 3. Jim Read and Sue Baker, "Not Just Sticks and Stones: A Survey of the Stigma, Taboos and Discrimination Experienced by People with Mental Health Problems," Mind, 1996.
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Forum Super AdministratorDF member since Dec 2001 ---- "I cannot make my mark for all time...those concepts are mutually exclusive. "Lasting effect" is a self -contradictory term. Meaning does not exist in the future, nor do I. Nothing will have meaning, "ultimately." Nothing will even mean tomorrow what it did today. Meaning changes with the context. My meaningfulness is in the here and now. It is enough that I may be of value to someone today. It is enough that I make a difference now." ~Lindsay Hotlines
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Sep 30 2006, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE(Gonzo @ Sep 30 2006, 09:05 PM)  FYI: People in the US are covered by the American With Disabilities Act which protects even people with mental illness. Also, most are also covered by the Family Medical Leave Act which provides upto 12 weeks of unpaid leave per year to take care of medical problems of yourself or a family member without being fired. Mental health is covered under this as well. QUOTE Know Your Rights The ADA, or Americans with Disabilities Act, came into effect on July 26, 1992. This important legislation prohibits private employers, state and local governments, employment agencies and labor unions from discriminating against qualified individuals with disabilities in job application procedures, hiring, firing, advancement, compensation, job training, and other terms, conditions and privileges of employment. This act applies to employers with 15 or more employees. Are You Covered? Persons covered by this act include anyone who: * has a physical or mental impairment that substantially limits one or more major life activities; * has a record of such an impairment; or * is regarded as having such an impairment. Although clinical depression is a mental impairment under the ADA, not everyone with clinical depression will qualify for coverage. In 1999, the Supreme Court ruled ( Sutton v. United Airlines, Inc., Murphy v. United Parcel Service, Inc. and Albertson's Inc. v. Kirkinburg) that the determination of whether a person has an ADA "disability" must take into consideration whether the person is substantially limited in performing a major life activity when using a "mitigating measure". T his means that even though clinical depression is a permanent condition, if you are able through medications and therapy to perform major life activities without difficulty you will not meet the ADA's definition of "disability."Some feel that these decisions weakened the ADA as it applies to those with depression. Those diagnosed with depression will no longer automatically fall under the ADA's protection. This does not mean, however, that persons with depression are without recourse. Instead, it means that they must prove that they continue to experience limitations despite their medications and therapy. If your job performance is compromised by your illness despite the fact that you are in treatment, you would still be protected under the ADA. Drug and Alcohol Abuse Because self-medication with drugs and alcohol are so common among those with depression, it is important to note that the ADA does not cover those with a substance abuse problem. Any employee with a substance abuse problem can be held to the same standards as other employees. If your employer does not know about your depression and then later discovers a substance abuse problem, you will not be protected.What Are Your Rights? Under the ADA, employers are required to make what is called a "reasonable accommodation" to those with a known disability if it would not impose an "undue hardship" on the operation of the employer's business. Undue hardship is defined as an action requiring significant difficulty or expense when considered in light of factors such as an employer's size, financial resources and the nature and structure of its operation. An employer is not required to lower quality or production standards to make an accommodation. Examples of reasonable accommodation for those with depression might include: * clear delineation of performance expectations, * schedules which incorporate flex-time, * part-time positions or job sharing, * time off for scheduled medical appointments or support groups, * the use of break time according to individual needs rather than a fixed schedule, * physical arrangements (such as room partitions or an enclosed office space) to reduce noise or visual distractions, * extending additional leave to allow a worker to keep his or her job after a hospitalization, * allowing workers to phone supportive friends, family members, or professionals during the work day, * joint meetings between the employer, supervisor, and job coach or other employment service provider. Next 2 Source:- about.com Updated: June 13, 2006
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Oct 1 2006, 11:20 AM
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I was terminated from my last job as they were unwilling to train me into another position as my doctor suggested. They were, as far as I was concerned, very cold in reaction to my being bipolar and having sever depression. In college, I applied for and was granted special privileges with my classes via the ADA. I had to prove I had a mental disability. With my doctor's help, there was no question that I needed help. Most disability cases are viewed from a visual impairment. In other words, what can't be seen does not constitute a disability. People with mental illnesses have to prove and fight for recognition of their disability. We with mental illnesses receive deferential treatment and are often denied benefits. As far as FMLA, I received 6 months of it from my former employer in hopes that the extra time would allow me to recover. Having it kept my job open and prevented them from terminating me during that time off. We in the US have a lot of privileges that other countries do not. We should be glad that we have them but it's unfortunate that people with mental illnesses have to fight for recognition of their impairment. Sheepwoman
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Nov 1 2006, 04:08 PM
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I was fortunate enough I was able to use FMLA until I could get back to work. They have even made some allowances for me to take a reduced position so I don't have as much stress. They are trying to help me from having a reoccurance.
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Nov 5 2006, 06:55 AM
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I was off on Short Term Disability from my employer and the day I returned (5 months later), they fired me. I can't believe in this day and age companies still discriminate like this. And this was a large insurance company, too. I have sought legal advice and am in the process of taking action against them, but it doesn't help my situation any, now I have to worry about how I'm going to support my family.
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Nov 5 2006, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE(Gonzo @ Sep 30 2006, 08:05 PM)  FYI: People in the US are covered by the American With Disabilities Act which protects even people with mental illness. Also, most are also covered by the Family Medical Leave Act which provides upto 12 weeks of unpaid leave per year to take care of medical problems of yourself or a family member without being fired. Mental health is covered under this as well. Gonzo, Bringing up FMLA was very helpful, however I recently learned that the interpretation of the law has changed since 1992, and not in a way that helps people with disabiliities. The current interpretation is that an employer is obligated to hold an employees job for them as long as they take no more than 12 weeks unpaid or paid leave during the previous 12 months. And this only applies to companies with over 50 employees - so forget FMLA if you work for a small business. To illustrate, my employer will provide up to 2 months sick/short-term disability leave at full pay (which is very generous). But If I take the full two months (8 weeks), plus just one month (4 weeks) unpaid, they have no obligation to give me my old job. I would have to find another position in the company, but after that kind of leave, I'd probably find it hard to do that - so I'd be out of a job. In addition to the above, the 12 weeks do not have to be consecutive; if you are out of work due to your illness, or the illness of a family member, for more than 60 days total in a 12 month period, you may lose your job. If this happens, it is not considered discrimination, because the employer is only following company policy, based on FMLA. In my opinion, it is used as a smoke screen to allow anyone with a disability to be fired if their disability affects their attendance. From an employer's standpoint, I can see how this makes sense. However I find it ironic that 12 weeks is ample time to return to work after many kinds of physical illnesses, or surgery, but can take much longer than that to recover from an episode of severe mental illness. It just doesn't add up.
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Nov 7 2006, 09:00 PM
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*link removed per our TOS* reports that because of lack of recognition and acceptance throughout communities relating to disorders people dont receive the help they need. That too surprised me. We need to be more accepting.
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Nov 21 2006, 05:46 PM
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Thank you for posting this. When will folks learn that mental health stigma is just another prejudice? It's a no fault condition!
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Nov 22 2006, 07:41 AM
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Indeed. We have the disability act her ein the UK. But, when I asked my local mental health charity over here if it is advisable just to "come out" I was strongly advised NO! Apparently it is all too easy to get discriminated against. Do not know about you, but I get exhausted with keeping it all a secret. I am amazed that everyone does not know already anyway. You must live with 2 burdens, depression and secrecy. It really hurts, C QUOTE(mindboggled @ Oct 29 2006, 12:23 PM)  In Italy and many more countries I'm afraid it's not even question of raising the subject. I remember talking about this with a trade union consultant and she recommended never-ever! raising this issue unless i was in their office (in private) or in confession with a priest, or a psychologist. What makes me uncomfortable is that people may find out about my depression by looking or talking to me. In a small city you must keep your dirty little secret even when you change your occupation - your past work experience is in your C.V. and employers know one another pretty well. If you belong to a different ethnic minority that adds to the stigma. However, the fact that more (and more...) folks work on a temporary basis does not help them very much though no matter where they live.
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Nov 30 2006, 12:46 PM
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I've just been diagnosed with depression and have been trying to get things straightened out at my university. Profs have not been very nice about it. My couselor reccomended I not be too specific with them if I didn't feel comfortable about it. So, I wasn't. Some of them were fine but 2 in particular have not been nice at all. I'm afraid that I'm goign to fail my courses and it isn't fair at all. I've been working hard all term but I'm such a slump now that I can't seem to get out of it. My GP says it's an illness so my profs should give me a little extra time for assignments and to know that I"m not skipping classes on purpose. I hate this a lot. People attach such stigmas to people with mental health issues. It makes me angry. All I want to do is finish my courses and get decent grades!! People just expect you to snap out of it, to wake up happy. Unfortunately depression isn't like that. I sure wish it was.
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Dec 15 2006, 10:38 AM
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Ah Stigma. If you come to think of it, its associated with everything. I remember when I was in high school. I used to get the best grades in class and everyone just had a great time ridiculing me. I didn’t cheat nor did I ever help anyone cheat. I was considered a nerd. Everyday of my life I had to bear the thought of going to school and being called a nerd. Additionally, I enjoyed wearing shorts. Winter or summer. I wore them because I felt comfortable. “You’re so poor you can’t afford jeans!” I would hear from all corners. Seniors and juniors they all just had a blast.
Depressing. Very depressing. Stigma just worsens depression and in my case it was a cause. Even today I feel the effects. I’ve even experienced a personality change. I over | |