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Viva
post Aug 17 2008, 05:01 PM
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Hi, i've been battling depression and anxiety for many many years and recently was told i had ADHD - i had been told this by 2 other psych's but this time i actually did extensive testing. Much of what i worry about is my failure to excel at anything and the hopelessness of the rest of my life, and how hard it is to get through school. All of these things are terribly exasperated by the ADD. I usually hear the theory that you should deal with the underlaying depression first before the ADHD since the meds can make depression worse. The thing is, what if it is the other way around? Maybe if i could just get myself together the depression wouldn't be so bad. I'm terrified of taking meds for it in case it makes my depression worse, i'm also bothered by the idea that with ADHD meds i'll have to take them forever or else feel like i do all the time since everything i read has pointed to counseling not being as effective with ADHD as it is with depression.

I used to take citalopram up until 3 months ago, i hated hte side effects and am very concerned about my weight. Now i know people usually say that shouldn't be an issue, but it is and no amount of pep talking is gonna change that. For 2 years I lived with it and other side effects because the depression was worse than the side effects (that year was bad for depression because of frequent deaths and my boyfriend dumping me over the phone the day a close friend died because he found someone new - i had moved back home for a year - he was still in the netherlands, and i guess he got bored without someone to sleep with- not a nice guy - anyway, without the AD i wouldn't have made it, and i just told myself it was temporary and I wouldn't' be on it forever, but it's been too long). Anyway, i finally decided that the side effects were contributing to my depression. But, after 3 months of doing pretty well off of it it seems to be coming back again. I start school in a month and i'm terrified. But now i'm wondering if i should go back on anti's (i'm still on wellbutrin but no SSRI). The only ones that i hear aren't gonna put weight on me are effexor and cymbalta, both of which i've been told aren't great. Has anyone been on a combo of one of those with ADD drugs?

I dunno, should i add an ADHD med to the wellbutrin, or both adhd stuff, wellbutrin AND another AD? maybe i should drop the wellbutrin and just take an ADHD and AD together? i just don't knwo what to do. And i don't know what to say to my doc, i'm not sure what she'll say if i want adhd meds - it was psychologists that diagnosed me, not her. ugh! I just want to be able to pay attention to something and not feel hopeless, and not go up and down between A's and D's....

also, which is better generally - adderall or ritalin? i think they banned adderall in Canada. I'm fine with Ritalin, i'm just scared of the side effects. My friend joked the other day i want adderall because all the stars use it to be thin, but that's honestly not true. I just want to be ok - i know my weight worries might lead people to believe this, but honestly that's not the reason. I'll take whatever works for me, but i'm really scared of side effects and i hear there are a lot with ritalin. I'd love to hear your opinions on this. I"m also getting my tonsils out next month and have to be put under, would ADHD meds affect this?


ok, hopefully this makes sense - i'm kinda thinking it doesn't.
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post Aug 21 2008, 10:07 AM
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QUOTE (Viva @ Aug 17 2008, 06:01 PM) *
Hi, i've been battling depression and anxiety for many many years and recently was told i had ADHD - i had been told this by 2 other psych's but this time i actually did extensive testing. Much of what i worry about is my failure to excel at anything and the hopelessness of the rest of my life, and how hard it is to get through school. All of these things are terribly exasperated by the ADD. I usually hear the theory that you should deal with the underlaying depression first before the ADHD since the meds can make depression worse. The thing is, what if it is the other way around? Maybe if i could just get myself together the depression wouldn't be so bad. I'm terrified of taking meds for it in case it makes my depression worse, i'm also bothered by the idea that with ADHD meds i'll have to take them forever or else feel like i do all the time since everything i read has pointed to counseling not being as effective with ADHD as it is with depression.

I used to take citalopram up until 3 months ago, i hated hte side effects and am very concerned about my weight. Now i know people usually say that shouldn't be an issue, but it is and no amount of pep talking is gonna change that. For 2 years I lived with it and other side effects because the depression was worse than the side effects (that year was bad for depression because of frequent deaths and my boyfriend dumping me over the phone the day a close friend died because he found someone new - i had moved back home for a year - he was still in the netherlands, and i guess he got bored without someone to sleep with- not a nice guy - anyway, without the AD i wouldn't have made it, and i just told myself it was temporary and I wouldn't' be on it forever, but it's been too long). Anyway, i finally decided that the side effects were contributing to my depression. But, after 3 months of doing pretty well off of it it seems to be coming back again. I start school in a month and i'm terrified. But now i'm wondering if i should go back on anti's (i'm still on wellbutrin but no SSRI). The only ones that i hear aren't gonna put weight on me are effexor and cymbalta, both of which i've been told aren't great. Has anyone been on a combo of one of those with ADD drugs?

I dunno, should i add an ADHD med to the wellbutrin, or both adhd stuff, wellbutrin AND another AD? maybe i should drop the wellbutrin and just take an ADHD and AD together? i just don't knwo what to do. And i don't know what to say to my doc, i'm not sure what she'll say if i want adhd meds - it was psychologists that diagnosed me, not her. ugh! I just want to be able to pay attention to something and not feel hopeless, and not go up and down between A's and D's....

also, which is better generally - adderall or ritalin? i think they banned adderall in Canada. I'm fine with Ritalin, i'm just scared of the side effects. My friend joked the other day i want adderall because all the stars use it to be thin, but that's honestly not true. I just want to be ok - i know my weight worries might lead people to believe this, but honestly that's not the reason. I'll take whatever works for me, but i'm really scared of side effects and i hear there are a lot with ritalin. I'd love to hear your opinions on this. I"m also getting my tonsils out next month and have to be put under, would ADHD meds affect this?

I had cymbabalt before it made me groggy but everyone is different however though about the weight gain try to exercise when you can even yoga ,or heck even deep breathing. I"m also a college student and working out breathing all help whatever you can do to keep the anixety down do it. About the weight try not to worry about it i know my ad remeron made me put on a few ,but being on adderall i think i was undereating ,but the point being is keep a cool head try to avoid unesseacry stressors.


ok, hopefully this makes sense - i'm kinda thinking it doesn't.



The whole addreall ritialin thing is really on who you ask and what type of add some druges seem to give more activity to some parts of the brain then others if you look up pet scans and add in google you should be able to see the effects at work.

There is a newer form of addreall that has alot less side effects it may not be banned since it works in a stimulating fashion but the way it gets released to the body is different it's call Vaynase so see if that is on the band list.

Now about the tounsils if you have breathing promblems which i'm assuming you do you might want to look at maybe getting the annoids taken out as well ,and maybe get a sleep study done cause if you are not breathing as well as you should it could cause depression as well as add effects.
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QUOTE (mccoffee @ Aug 21 2008, 11:07 AM) *
QUOTE (Viva @ Aug 17 2008, 06:01 PM) *
Hi, i've been battling depression and anxiety for many many years and recently was told i had ADHD - i had been told this by 2 other psych's but this time i actually did extensive testing. Much of what i worry about is my failure to excel at anything and the hopelessness of the rest of my life, and how hard it is to get through school. All of these things are terribly exasperated by the ADD. I usually hear the theory that you should deal with the underlaying depression first before the ADHD since the meds can make depression worse. The thing is, what if it is the other way around? Maybe if i could just get myself together the depression wouldn't be so bad. I'm terrified of taking meds for it in case it makes my depression worse, i'm also bothered by the idea that with ADHD meds i'll have to take them forever or else feel like i do all the time since everything i read has pointed to counseling not being as effective with ADHD as it is with depression.

I used to take citalopram up until 3 months ago, i hated hte side effects and am very concerned about my weight. Now i know people usually say that shouldn't be an issue, but it is and no amount of pep talking is gonna change that. For 2 years I lived with it and other side effects because the depression was worse than the side effects (that year was bad for depression because of frequent deaths and my boyfriend dumping me over the phone the day a close friend died because he found someone new - i had moved back home for a year - he was still in the netherlands, and i guess he got bored without someone to sleep with- not a nice guy - anyway, without the AD i wouldn't have made it, and i just told myself it was temporary and I wouldn't' be on it forever, but it's been too long). Anyway, i finally decided that the side effects were contributing to my depression. But, after 3 months of doing pretty well off of it it seems to be coming back again. I start school in a month and i'm terrified. But now i'm wondering if i should go back on anti's (i'm still on wellbutrin but no SSRI). The only ones that i hear aren't gonna put weight on me are effexor and cymbalta, both of which i've been told aren't great. Has anyone been on a combo of one of those with ADD drugs?

I dunno, should i add an ADHD med to the wellbutrin, or both adhd stuff, wellbutrin AND another AD? maybe i should drop the wellbutrin and just take an ADHD and AD together? i just don't knwo what to do. And i don't know what to say to my doc, i'm not sure what she'll say if i want adhd meds - it was psychologists that diagnosed me, not her. ugh! I just want to be able to pay attention to something and not feel hopeless, and not go up and down between A's and D's....

also, which is better generally - adderall or ritalin? i think they banned adderall in Canada. I'm fine with Ritalin, i'm just scared of the side effects. My friend joked the other day i want adderall because all the stars use it to be thin, but that's honestly not true. I just want to be ok - i know my weight worries might lead people to believe this, but honestly that's not the reason. I'll take whatever works for me, but i'm really scared of side effects and i hear there are a lot with ritalin. I'd love to hear your opinions on this. I"m also getting my tonsils out next month and have to be put under, would ADHD meds affect this?

I had cymbabalt before it made me groggy but everyone is different however though about the weight gain try to exercise when you can even yoga ,or heck even deep breathing. I"m also a college student and working out breathing all help whatever you can do to keep the anixety down do it. About the weight try not to worry about it i know my ad remeron made me put on a few ,but being on adderall i think i was undereating ,but the point being is keep a cool head try to avoid unesseacry stressors.


ok, hopefully this makes sense - i'm kinda thinking it doesn't.



The whole addreall ritialin thing is really on who you ask and what type of add some druges seem to give more activity to some parts of the brain then others if you look up pet scans and add in google you should be able to see the effects at work.

There is a newer form of addreall that has alot less side effects it may not be banned since it works in a stimulating fashion but the way it gets released to the body is different it's call Vaynase so see if that is on the band list.

Now about the tounsils if you have breathing promblems which i'm assuming you do you might want to look at maybe getting the annoids taken out as well ,and maybe get a sleep study done cause if you are not breathing as well as you should it could cause depression as well as add effects.



Well with someone who has add/depresion ,and allergy/asthma the breathing is a huge part of the promblem ever since I had my devated septum has been fixed ,so my ablity to focus has got alot better. Another thing you may want to look into is doing a sleep study that way they can determine if it's apena ,or not and where the obstruction could be ,and also apena could be part of the promblem.

Right now I"m back in college the asthma was kicking up alot there was some days where the depression kicked in as well as the tighting in my cheast getting worse. My doc switched the type of advair ,and now I"m doing alot better in breathing ,and focus.

I tottaly agree with the above about the anoids. I"m on Vyanase right now ,and I have probably none side effects from it. When i took addereall though some days it worked like it should other days take your pick on what side effects i had on some days probably all the negatives.

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